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CDSmith 08-11-2005 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rickholio
There comes a point after countless flyers, television shows, fresh-faced polyester-clad youths on your doorstep at 8am on saturday mornings, newscasts about the fatwa-du-jour proclaiming that all jews, faggots, war protesters, abortionists, liberals, drug addicts, and non-white poor people are going straight to hell where eventually you just get sick of it. I don't know how many different ways one can say "Jesus doesn't want me for a fucking sunbeam" before they'll finally leave you alone. I have yet to personally discover that magical number, though I remain ever hopeful.

I wish some of these hyper-zealous 'fishers of men' would take a little more time doing things that matter and a little less time proselytizing. "By their works, shall ye know them"... but what works will they wrought if their only purpose on the planet is, apparently, the viral spread of a belief system that many people would just as soon do without? Could they lay claim to anything other than "I recruited"?

There's truth in saying that some people are on shaky ground and feel personally threatened by public declarations of faith. There are still others who are fed up of having to endure yet another metaphysical sales pitch in the guise of someone 'testifying'. If you really want to demonstrate the power of faith and strength of your convictions, lead by example and help make the world a better place in a substantial fashion. :2 cents:

Gad damn man.... I don't know what you're drinking tonight, but I want some.

:D

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-11-2005 01:55 AM

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Rapture 08-11-2005 01:59 AM

Wow!! Overwhelming responses! Just got home from work and I'm on Page 3!
Anyways, I'd like to reiterate that coming on this thread does nothing for my ego or my self esteem. It's simply to testify that I have witnessed the Love and power of Jesus Christ in my life and that the only way you can experience what I have is to let down your guard a bit, take down the walls, lose the baggage or whatever you want to call it- basically open your heart to all that God has for you. You can teach Satanism with the words that are written in the Bible but that doesn't mean you should worship Satan. God is Love. The Bible says that i have experienced it for myself through faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God. I have so much to say but it would take hours upon hours to say it all. But even the fiercest God-hater can receive the gift of salvation that comes through Jesus according to the Word. Christ's blood was not shed in vain. This is the heart of God: if you were the only one to ever have sinned, Christ would've still gone to the cross just for you. But since it's for us all, it would be a shame to miss.

rickholio 08-11-2005 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Gad damn man.... I don't know what you're drinking tonight, but I want some.

:D

Ah... I sucked back a pot of genmai (brown rice green tea) and was watching Napolean Dynamite. Maybe that's the secret combination to satori. :winkwink:

Rapture 08-11-2005 02:20 AM

3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. 5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) 6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? 7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. 9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Do these verses provoke any questions from any of you?

Empress_JoinRightNow 08-11-2005 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
I had a dream the other night...where Jesus was playing back my entire life to me and everything I said and did with my life. The Father, God, was about to judge my whole life according to my deeds and I would be rewarded or punished accordingly. Somehow, I realized that so many things that I normally thought nothing about I suddenly felt so ashamed of as I stood before God and I didnt want Jesus to see any of it as my whole life was played back to me in what seemed to be a hologram. When I woke up from this dream I felt very strongly that God was telling me to to surrender my life to Jesus and live for Him or I would miss His 2nd coming, which He said would happen very soon.

In a twinkling of an eye millions of those who are faithful to God will disappear off the face of the earth and those graves of the ones who were faithful to God will be opened and the bodies in the graves will disappear and those people will meet the Lord in the air and go to heaven where they will reign with Jesus for 100 years while hear in the earth massive suffering will begin...not hell. But a prelude to hell. There will be a chance to be saved but it will be harder to serve God then than it is now. The news will report of the millions of people who disappeared without a trace and about the empty graves. Radicals from faiths left behind on the earth will all have their theories on what happened. People will claim they are the Christ. Don't believe them. Plagues, famines and a new world order will happen. Give your hear to Jesus. All these things and so much more will happen soon. Pray to God while there is time.

Since I had that dream and learned of things to come I have stopped involving myself in any facet of the porn business.

I quit.


2 Timothy 3

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


2 Peter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

This is a very complicated statement. You really believe that heaven and hell exist. We got different views in life though.
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rickholio 08-11-2005 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
... snippeth ...

Do these verses provoke any questions from any of you?

Just one, where I was asking "How many times do I have to say 'Jesus doesn't want me for a fucking sunbeam' before I get left alone" by the zealots?

I really WOULD like to know the answer to that one, although I'm sure the answer will, ironically, be very zen. :yinyang

Platinumpimp 08-11-2005 02:23 AM

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CDSmith 08-11-2005 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
Do these verses provoke any questions from any of you?

Dude, it's one thing to profess your beliefs on here, it's quite another to try to push them on others.

Believe the way you want, and be happy about it.

Let others do the same.

Unless you want to foster hatred. Isn't there something about that in the bible?

I think there is.

Rapture 08-11-2005 02:28 AM

rickholio-

are you implying that I'm a zealot who wont leave you alone?

Platinumpimp 08-11-2005 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
rickholio-

are you implying that I'm a zealot who wont leave you alone?

No, you are an idiot. :1orglaugh

rickholio 08-11-2005 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Dude, it's one thing to profess your beliefs on here, it's quite another to try to push them on others.

Believe the way you want, and be happy about it.

Let others do the same.

Unless you want to foster hatred. Isn't there something about that in the bible?

I think there is.

Ezekiel 25:17 - The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness; for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-11-2005 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
rickholio-

are you implying that I'm a zealot who wont leave you alone?


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CDSmith 08-11-2005 02:35 AM

"man, those are some tasty burgers! Damn"

Rapture 08-11-2005 02:35 AM

So far, I havent even given you my opinion about Chrstianity in general. I have only told you either what the Bible says or about experiences I've had so anyone feels condemned then maybe it's the the Holy Spirit speaking to you. And feeling condemned, or judged, is not the end of all things. It's only the beginning. It's at this point that one may ask themself "Why should I change?" The answer to this maybe best left between you and God. After all, I am no better than anyone else here.

Platinumpimp 08-11-2005 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
So far, I havent even given you my opinion about Chrstianity in general. I have only told you either what the Bible says or about experiences I've had so anyone feels condemned then maybe it's the the Holy Spirit speaking to you. And feeling condemned, or judged, is not the end of all things. It's only the beginning. It's at this point that one may ask themself "Why should I change?" The answer to this maybe best left between you and God. After all, I am no better than anyone else here.

Come on, trolling time is over twit.

CDSmith 08-11-2005 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
After all, I am no better than anyone else here.

And that just about wraps it up for me here.

Who's up for beer, fallen women and a nice round of pool?

garce 08-11-2005 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
God has made it possible to have personal relationship with Him through Jesus Christ.

Right now I'm having a personal relationship with your mom through my right right hand.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-11-2005 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
And that just about wraps it up for me here.

Who's up for beer, fallen women and a nice round of pool?


How about we just staple another guy to a stick and call it a day?

Who would have thought such a thing would create pure profit under the guise of religeon. I am sure it can be done a couple more times and the moneymaking opportunities are awesome needless to say.

rickholio 08-11-2005 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
rickholio-

are you implying that I'm a zealot who wont leave you alone?

I'm implying that despite numerous posts, with points both obvious and subtle, that you are most definitely missing the clue-train.

If you have truly acheived some sort of special enlightenment, some new circle of acolyte wisdom, and are well on your way to your 1000 virgins or whatever your deity promises is all very nice. Congratulations.

Aside from some reflex action trained into me by society to give superficial plaudits to people for acheiving mediocre goals, I really honestly couldn't give a rats ass... except as a foil for some philosophical debate, which has managed to go on quite despite your incessant cut-and-pastery.

Do these observations provoke any questions from YOU?

rickholio 08-11-2005 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
How about we just staple another guy to a stick and call it a day?

Who would have thought such a thing would create pure profit under the guise of religeon. I am sure it can be done a couple more times and the moneymaking opportunities are awesome needless to say.

Hey, worked for that Hubbard guy, and he could barely get a book published. :thumbsup

Rapture 08-11-2005 02:50 AM

Since I had that dream my life has changed in many ways. I feel a burden in my heart a burden for the poor and sick and have begun doing things to help in order to show them an example in hopes that they may receive Christ. But why is it only the ones who are in the gutter who ask God for help? When all God's blessings are for anyone who receives Him no matter what your physical condition and no matter how much how or how little money you already have and no matter how unsuccessful or successful you may be.

You see, many of you here have a certain measure of success already. So why would I come here and tell you that God can make you successful in life. (Or maybe I shouldn't be so presumptuous) All of you eat food everyday so why would I try to feed you and tell you it's a blessing from God? The only service I can think to offer you is the Words of God from the Bible telling you how through Jesus you can be saved. The Bible says that there is wealth that comes from the Lord and it brings no sorrow with it.

I'm of the few that does not believe that Jesus was poor in any way.

rickholio 08-11-2005 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture
Since I had that dream my life has changed in many ways. I feel a burden in my heart a burden for the poor and sick and have begun doing things to help in order to show them an example in hopes that they may receive Christ. But why is it only the ones who are in the gutter who ask God for help? When all God's blessings are for anyone who receives Him no matter what your physical condition and no matter how much how or how little money you already have and no matter how unsuccessful or successful you may be.

You see, many of you here have a certain measure of success already. So why would I come here and tell you that God can make you successful in life. (Or maybe I shouldn't be so presumptuous) All of you eat food everyday so why would I try to feed you and tell you it's a blessing from God? The only service I can think to offer you is the Words of God from the Bible telling you how through Jesus you can be saved. The Bible says that there is wealth that comes from the Lord and it brings no sorrow with it.

I'm of the few that does not believe that Jesus was poor in any way.

Indeed, why would you? Why would you indeed think that there's a service you could offer us, when you yourself would reject it were it offered to you before your fitfull sleep? What makes you think that any here would have such a kafka-esque metamorphosis by any other means but some nocturnal crisis?

It's the hypocrisy that grates. The demand to turn off all rational thought and throw yourself headlong into a dogma based on a book that has gone through countless revisions by political figures, adjusting and rewriting and retranslating based on whatever interpretation would suit their particular ends, then touted as the one true and only word of the almighty direct from the presses. A book tainted with the blood of countless innocents across the millenia, yet you would have us throw ourselves prostate before its prose as the ultimate expression of our faith and devotion to an inscrutible god.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matt 7:16) Indeed, I am all too familiar with the works of those professing love with the book in one hand, and a rod in the other to scourge the unbelievers.

You come to us speaking of a dream, yet the book you profess itself urges us to beware exactly those of you who would draw us in; "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." (Mattew 7:15)

No sir. Your words do not inspire, they seethe. Behind them is a motivation not being revealed by you, and that motivation seeps through the lines of coldly quoted scripture like venom dripping from an adder's tooth. If my relationship with Jesus was so personal, so special as you claim yours to be, I would not tarnish it so by heaping a portion of it on every casual observer. Your insistance on doing so belies the existance of your unspoken hidden urges... but not thier manefestation. Do you perhaps imagine yourself a great prophet, bringing salvation to the unwashed masses rooted in the carnal and mundane, diligently (if fruitlessly) hunting for the wayward sheep to be tended? Do you fancy being canonized St. Truethrust, patron of the wanton, washed and reborn? Are you driven to prove your loyalty and obedience by bringing fresh grist for your mill?

Or are you just a cynical little troll?

V_RocKs 08-11-2005 05:12 AM

There is no one God..

2257-Ben 08-11-2005 05:18 AM

Amen, Rapture. Amen.


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