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Big E · 08-20-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

like i said man,, let it go... she's already gotten the icq.... just to prove that u dont know shit and keep talkin for no reason...

If that's the case, then I applaud you for doing the right thing. It's a shame that it had to come to this though. And I think you've under-estimated how much this has affected you. You just haven't seen the fallout yet..

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill308os

It seems to me that if the first half of the paragraph above was what Bobbi was told yesterday morning, followed by an apology, then she probably would have given Al the day to pull off this upload. Instead she was lied to, and it was an all to easily verifiable lie. THAT was when this exploded. I may be new to this site, but I've been getting the play by play on this issue over the last four months. I also know that people in general (including Bobbi) want to avoid drama, particularly when it involves industry reputations and relationships. But I don't care what business you're in; when someone is not performing and at the same time feeding you an obvious line of shit, and after all other methods of resolving the issue have been exhausted, don't be shocked when that shit hits the fan.

no one was lied to.. relax yourself... bobbi went on vacation, allen went on vacation along with 100 other things going on at the same time.. so he didnt have a chance,,, as i said in the previous post,,, she's gotten the ICQ with the links to the photos....

my last post here,,, goodbye

Big E · 08-20-2005, 09:37 AM

(damn, missed the 200 NO PRINTS FOR TIME photographers)

BradM · 08-20-2005, 09:45 AM

Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.

MikeVega · 08-20-2005, 09:47 AM

wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak ..

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak ..

get ur story straight,,, there was only 1 model,,, no one said their no longer gonna shoot.. we dont even shoot for anyone... no one is back peddling,, she was gonna get her pix,, she pissed us off, shit went out of proportion

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.

yea just people talkin out of their ass

DeanCapture · 08-20-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

"nothing has been to the expense of my business or reputation."

From Shap..."I?ve been interested in doing business with you for quite
some time. After this thread that has totally changed."

From Stewie..."Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next
month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going."

Vee, you can think what you want but the fact is that your business and
your reputation has been damaged because of this. Shap and Stewie are only
two people who had the balls to post that had thought about doing business
with you in the future but have decided not to after what happened here.
How many other people reading this board have decided to not do business with
you because of this? Give that some thought bro'.........

Big E · 08-20-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.

He may very well be a "responsible person", but how do you think they handled themselves in this thread? You approve of them withholding images for four months and then trashing a model when she finally brings it to the boards in order to get some sort of resolution?

DeanCapture · 08-20-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know.

Damn....you need some new friends bro'

Big E · 08-20-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak ..

Mike, don't get down on him. HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

Fuck all this ego and "looking weak".. REAL men stand up and take responsibility when they make mistakes.

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Big E

Mike, don't get down on him. HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

Fuck all this ego and "looking weak".. REAL men stand up and take responsibility when they make mistakes.

MikeVega · 08-20-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

get ur story straight,,, there was only 1 model,,, no one said their no longer gonna shoot.. we dont even shoot for anyone... no one is back peddling,, she was gonna get her pix,, she pissed us off, shit went out of proportion

I agree it went out of proportion and i think you took some heat. I'm not saying that your bad guys or that your company is bad ... I'm just saying that things changed really fast after Stewie said he will not be sending Vanilla to shoot with you guys and Snap said he will no longer work with ya ..

Post #157

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Originally Posted by shap

I just have to post here.

Al and Vee. I?ve been interested in doing business with you for quite some time. I?ve never had the chance to but I was interested. After this thread that has totally changed. I have to say you?ve been very unprofessional. If you made a deal just stick to it and give the damn content. I don?t care what the story is. Honor the deal. I don?t know Bobbi. But I know E and Dean and both are stand up guys. I think your words to E were ?You?re barking up the wrong tree.? I don?t know but from where I?m sitting I think you are the one barking up the wrong tree.

There are a lot of silent gfy readers that watch how people conduct themselves and choose whether or not to do business with them based on that. I am one of them. We spend huge bucks on content. E spends HUGE bucks on content. And there are many others reading this that do. All of which are coming to the conclusion that they won?t want to ever do business with you if this is how you handle situations. The client is always right and you need to make Bobbi happy instead of coming here and fueling the fire.

Post #160

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Good post... Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going.

Post 167 back peddling starts :

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Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

You are absolutely right. you're the first person to come out and say things normaly... thats what should of been said from the begining.. calling people out and this and that just angers people.... everyone we have worked with,, from content to any other types of deal have been extremely happy with us...its just this time everything just went out of proportion.. no one is trying to hold anyones stuff.. we are uploading her stuff, it was never deleted,, the fact that she blew everything out of proportion by calling allen out on threads.. believe it or not it pisses people off... and the first thing that comes to a pissed off persons mind is.... pretty much fuck off...

we have been extremely busy in the past few months.. from moving offices to projects on top of projects that we havnt gotten around to some of the stuff that should of been taken care of to begin with. i just didnt like the fact that dean had to come and out of nowhere call us idiots and this and that... in fact in all of deans thread i have given him props on his excelent work.

fact is,, u cant fight fire with fire...

that's what it looked like to me .. I hope you can see how it would look that way ..

MikeVega · 08-20-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Big E

Mike, don't get down on him. HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

Fuck all this ego and "looking weak".. REAL men stand up and take responsibility when they make mistakes.

I agree ..when your wrong you should admit it ... i'm just saying learn from it and try not to make that mistake again .. i've done it .. I think he did the right thing ...

Big E · 08-20-2005, 10:25 AM

Yeah, sorry about the Mikey.. I misunderstood your previous message - I thought you were giving him shit for "backing down" (implying that he should have stood his ground). My bad.

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

I agree it went out of proportion and i think you took some heat. I'm not saying that your bad guys or that your company is bad ... I'm just saying that things changed really fast after Stewie said he will not be sending Vanilla to shoot with you guys and Snap said he will no longer work with ya ..

that's what it looked like to me .. I hope you can see how it would look that way ..

as much as i would like to work with shap, we wont be able to anyway and i do appreciate him complementing our work.,, so its not about that. like i said in previous post,, we havnt shot content for over a year,, just some promo stuff here and there... just to clarify, that is not the reason i stopped this drama,, i just got tired of a thread leading nowhere...

MikeVega · 08-20-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

as much as i would like to work with shap, we wont be able to anyway and i do appreciate him complementing our work.,, so its not about that. like i said in previous post,, we havnt shot content for over a year,, just some promo stuff here and there... just to clarify, that is not the reason i stopped this drama,, i just got tired of a thread leading nowhere...

I hear ya ... i agree it was dragging on and going nowhere .. I'm glad you guys settled it and i wasn't trying to call you out or call ya weak ..

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

I hear ya ... i agree it was dragging on and going nowhere .. I'm glad you guys settled it and i wasn't trying to call you out or call ya weak ..

DeanCapture · 08-20-2005, 10:30 AM

See...I told you all that things would be OK. There was nothing to worry about.
We are very sorry for the delay but the product was delivered via the internet
today. You should also receive a CD in the mail with these same images. As soon
as we are able to put our hands on the tracking number... we will provide that
to you. Everyone is happy now yes?

Abyss_Vee · 08-20-2005, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

See...I told you all that things would be OK. There was nothing to worry about.
We are very sorry for the delay but the product was delivered via the internet
today. You should also receive a CD in the mail with these same images. As soon
as we are able to put our hands on the tracking number... we will provide that
to you. Everyone is happy now yes?

funny guy......

Stewie · 08-20-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

From Shap..."I?ve been interested in doing business with you for quite
some time. After this thread that has totally changed."

From Stewie..."Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next
month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going."

Vee, you can think what you want but the fact is that your business and
your reputation has been damaged because of this. Shap and Stewie are only
two people who had the balls to post that had thought about doing business
with you in the future but have decided not to after what happened here.
How many other people reading this board have decided to not do business with
you because of this? Give that some thought bro'.........

We weren't going to post in this thread originally, as it started as a he-said/she-said situation, and our

wouldn't have meant much... However, our decision to cancel shoots and post here came from rude and unprofessional manner which Al and Vee handled the entire situation on the board. Even if Al had been in the right (which it's obvious that it is not the case), the way they attacked and treated Bobbi and her supporters here spoke volumes to me about their attitude towards business and the models themselves... I would never ask Vanilla to work in that type of environment, no matter who was shooting.

Big E · 08-20-2005, 11:31 AM

It's a pretty sad situation, but I'm sure it occurs very frequently in the industry. Most models are unable to fight back and we never hear any of this stuff. Bobbi just happens to be a strong-willed woman who has a lot of friends..

Warren · 08-20-2005, 11:39 AM

Very interesting thread.

Warren · 08-20-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Big E

It's a pretty sad situation, but I'm sure it occurs very frequently in the industry. Most models are unable to fight back and we never hear any of this stuff. Bobbi just happens to be a strong-willed woman who has a lot of friends..

Yeah true, models are fucked about a lot in this biz.

I sent you and icq a few minutes ago did you get it?

Big E · 08-20-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by warren

Yeah true, models are fucked about a lot in this biz.

I sent you and icq a few minutes ago did you get it?

I'm sure I did, but unfortunately, that's my office ICQ. You can hit me up in email if you like!

johnnyhey · 08-20-2005, 02:55 PM

what up dean o?

johnnyhey · 08-20-2005, 03:00 PM

modeljenhilton · 08-20-2005, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbi Doll

Hey Jen! I didn't know that you were on here...

I love your photos too! And... I think we have a mutual fan guy in common. Do you know Stan? He's sent me your pics before and mentioned you many times. I told him to tell you that I think you are HOT HOT HOT!

I would shoot with you anytime! Let me know. Do you ever get out to Cali?

XoXoX,
BB

Hey! I just started posting here a few days ago...really cool forum to hang out at. oh yes!! I didn't realize Stan talked to you about me because he is always raving about you to me...haha he is a character for sure!

I live in Van. but I got to LA every few months for shoots and fun. I have plans to go out there in Ocotober if you will be around.

I would love to hear your thoughts and reply to my post if you get a chance!!! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=505592

lazycash · 08-21-2005, 04:20 AM

Bump till Bobby gets her pics and an apology.

Bobbi Doll · 08-21-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Bump till Bobby gets her pics and an apology.

Thanks hun! Although I doubt I will ever get an apology, I would like to say that I did finally get my pics. Thanks Abyss Al & Abyss Vee!

Bobbi Doll · 08-21-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by modeljenhilton

Hey! I just started posting here a few days ago...really cool forum to hang out at. oh yes!! I didn't realize Stan talked to you about me because he is always raving about you to me...haha he is a character for sure!

I live in Van. but I got to LA every few months for shoots and fun. I have plans to go out there in Ocotober if you will be around.

I would love to hear your thoughts and reply to my post if you get a chance!!! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=505592

Hey Jen,

Yeah... he's quite interesting! Too funny that he's raving about me to you and you to me. Maybe he's trying to hook us up... hahaha!

Anyway, I replied to your post over there so check it out.

And I'd love to hook up and do a shoot if I am around when you come out in October. I know that I am going to be doing some traveling, but hopefully we can coordinate our schedules. If not, put me in for first dibs on your next trip out here. Are you French Canadian or just Canadian? My mom's French Canadian.

XoXoX,
BB

modeljenhilton · 08-21-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbi Doll

Hey Jen,

Yeah... he's quite interesting! Too funny that he's raving about me to you and you to me. Maybe he's trying to hook us up... hahaha!

Anyway, I replied to your post over there so check it out.

And I'd love to hook up and do a shoot if I am around when you come out in October. I know that I am going to be doing some traveling, but hopefully we can coordinate our schedules. If not, put me in for first dibs on your next trip out here. Are you French Canadian or just Canadian? My mom's French Canadian.

XoXoX,
BB

Awesome! Do you have an email addy? I can let you know when I get my dates figured out.

Till I was 14 I was in french immersion in school so I was pretty awesome with it. I still know it and can speak it but not as great...you speak french? I am from Vancouver so not really french canada.=P

P.S. THANK YOU FOR POSTING ON MY THREAD!

K R I S T E N · 08-22-2005, 10:15 AM

Bump for BB...

XclusiveVeezz · 08-22-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Bump for BB...

Bump for what? its over

Bobbi Doll · 08-22-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by modeljenhilton

Awesome! Do you have an email addy? I can let you know when I get my dates figured out.

Till I was 14 I was in french immersion in school so I was pretty awesome with it. I still know it and can speak it but not as great...you speak french? I am from Vancouver so not really french canada.=P

P.S. THANK YOU FOR POSTING ON MY THREAD!

Yeah, there's a contact me link on my website. And you can also reach me on the ICQ # from my signature.

K R I S T E N · 08-22-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by XclusiveVeezz

Bump for what? its over

Yes, u are right...its been resolved...Im a dunce

KK

DeanCapture · 08-22-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Yes, u are right...its been resolved...Im a dunce

KK

Well, at least...partially resolved. I think an apology is in order from Al for
jerking Bobbi around for 4 months before giving her those pics that he owed
her. It wasn't until some of her friends made a big deal of it that he finally
decided to give her what he promised. Had "we" not got involved, he
probably would have screwed her out of those pictures or at least waited
another 4 months to send them over. He ignored her, he lied to her, he insulted
her and then tried to make it seem that it was all her fault that she hadn't
gotten her pics yet. I would say this is only half resolved.......

XclusiveVeezz · 08-22-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Well, at least...partially resolved. I think an apology is in order from Al for
jerking Bobbi around for 4 months before giving her those pics that he owed
her. It wasn't until some of her friends made a big deal of it that he finally
decided to give her what he promised. Had "we" not got involved, he
probably would have screwed her out of those pictures or at least waited
another 4 months to send them over. He ignored her, he lied to her, he insulted
her and then tried to make it seem that it was all her fault that she hadn't
gotten her pics yet. I would say this is only half resolved.......

I dont understand why you guys keep on bumping this thread.. its over, so get over it and relax

DeanCapture · 08-22-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by XclusiveVeezz

I dont understand why you guys keep on bumping this thread.. its over, so get over it and relax

XclusiveVeezz · 08-22-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Out Of Order · 08-22-2005, 11:28 AM

All I see is a bunch of photographers swarming in here to stomp on Abyss to look good.

Abyss is a very talented photographer. Better than some of the guys in here trying to look good.
Dismissing business with him would be foolish.

DeanCapture · 08-22-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by XclusiveVeezz

Hey man...why do you keep bumping this thread?

DeanCapture · 08-22-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Out Of Order

All I see is a bunch of photographers swarming in here to stomp on Abyss to look good.

Abyss is a very talented photographer. Better than some of the guys in here trying to look good.
Dismissing business with him would be foolish.

Abyss is a very talented shooter...I'll give you that. I don't think anyone has
said anything negative about his shooting. How he handled this situation
however is another matter. Just because your a great shooter doesn't mean
that your a good person, that your honest, reliable or have integrity. I'm very
pissed at Al for behaving like this because I'm a photographer in the same
industry as he is and what he did to Bobbi gives all us photographers a black
eye and makes it harder for models to trust us. Get the picture?

Out Of Order · 08-22-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Abyss is a very talented shooter...I'll give you that. I don't think anyone has
said anything negative about his shooting. How he handled this situation
however is another matter. Just because your a great shooter doesn't mean
that your a good person, that your honest, reliable or have integrity. I'm very
pissed at Al for behaving like this because I'm a photographer in the same
industry as he is and what he did to Bobbi gives all us photographers a black
eye and makes it harder for models to trust us. Get the picture?

So you are saying he is not trust worthy to do business with.

I wonder about you're own integrity to continue attacking him on a deal that went bad and could have been resolved without any of this being an issue.

A simple matter of miscommunication and all his trust and business acumen is shot to hell.

You are full of shit.

DeanCapture · 08-22-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Out Of Order

So you are saying he is not trust worthy to do business with.

I wonder about you're own integrity to continue attacking him on a deal that went bad and could have been resolved without any of this being an issue.

A simple matter of miscommunication and all his trust and business acumen is shot to hell.

You are full of shit.

I never said he was not trustworthy to do business with...I'll let everyone
decide that for themselves. All I said was it sucked that he jerked Bobbi around
for 4 months without giving her the pictures that he owed her. He lied to her,
he insulted her and then he tried to make her think it was her own fault for
not getting the pictures. If that's the kind of "trustworthy" person you want
to do business with...be my guest.

abyss_al · 08-22-2005, 11:46 AM

i didn't want to get any more involved with this idiocy... but here...

THE ONLY REASON i went off at her is because we spoke that morning and had resolved this issue on icq..

told her ince it was uploaded, she would get the link, or if my employees had sent it out, shed get the tracking..... before i could even get to the office, she had made the post....

i gotta say though.. it was kinda smart of her.... with her new site design out, what better way to get some sig views for herself than this... then immediatley followed by her "fansign" thread.... good job....

Out Of Order · 08-22-2005, 11:51 AM

Looks Like Little Miss BB has been on a promo angle all along.

DeanCapture · 08-22-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Out Of Order

Looks Like Little Miss BB has been on a promo angle all along.

If Al would have delivered those pics in a timely manner...none of this would
have ever hit this board. All I saw was a model who was promised pictures from
a session that happened 4 months ago getting jerked around by a photographer
and trying to get what was promised. Al may be a good shooter, but he takes
no responsibility for his actions and that's bad news for people who are
thinking about doing business with him. All he had to do was say that he fucked
up and then take care of the situation immediately. Instead, he continued to
jerk her around for months instead of taking 10 minutes to burn a CD and mail
it out. Does Al treat his clients this way or only the girls that he shoots?

I'm not gonna post anymore in this thread....so say what you want. Al fucked
up royally this time and just doens't have the balls to admit and doesn't have
the integrity to apologize to BB for treating her like a pile of shit. 99 percent
of the people in this thread agree with me.

Cheers,

Out Of Order · 08-22-2005, 12:11 PM

Perhaps Miss BB owes Abyss an apology as well.

Prepping and correcting her photos for release and spending the time to work with her on his own time as well and talent.
He was obviously busy.

Do you think the photos were not being released because of some evil spite issue on his part? BB does not deserve an apology in my opinion, if anyone should get an apology it should be Abyss.

You two were quick to come in and slander him. She got message that the photos were finally comming and she made this thread while he was enroute to upload them for her even. Look at his 1st response in this thread look at his second.

Of course you do not want to post in this thread anymore Dean...

You are looking like a desperate whore while stepping on a comrad to look better and Bobbu just wants to be the innocent while promoting herself at his expense.
Truly pathetic.

Bobbi Doll · 08-22-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

i didn't want to get any more involved with this idiocy... but here...

THE ONLY REASON i went off at her is because we spoke that morning and had resolved this issue on icq..

told her ince it was uploaded, she would get the link, or if my employees had sent it out, shed get the tracking..... before i could even get to the office, she had made the post....

i gotta say though.. it was kinda smart of her.... with her new site design out, what better way to get some sig views for herself than this... then immediatley followed by her "fansign" thread.... good job....

Oh my god! *Eye Roll* Do you think this proves your case? You told me that they were to be next day aired last time we spoke on the day I first posted this thread. Then you said you had already sent it and would get me the tracking number when you got to the office. Then I waited all day and nothing AGAIN for like the 80th time so I asked you on here. That's when you flipped the fuck out and threatened me and said if I spoke again, you would delete all of my pictures. Your ICQ proves nothing. Oh and stop telling people I'm a liar and get out a mirror buddy. I haven't lied once. But you have. You said you had sent the photos next day air and that you would get me a tracking number. Hey Al? Just curious? What was that tracking number for that non existant make believe package you sent me anyway? I think Dean was right all along. I got my pictures and they were all dark as fuck. Don't make me post a gallery of dark unusable images Mr. Self Proclaimed "I NEVER FUCK UP EVER".

08-20-2005, 09:47 AM	#205
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak .. __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

08-20-2005, 10:30 AM	#219
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	See...I told you all that things would be OK. There was nothing to worry about. We are very sorry for the delay but the product was delivered via the internet today. You should also receive a CD in the mail with these same images. As soon as we are able to put our hands on the tracking number... we will provide that to you. Everyone is happy now yes? __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

08-20-2005, 11:39 AM	#223
Warren Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,284	Very interesting thread. __________________ ICQ:208-603-797 www.altdollars.com

08-20-2005, 02:55 PM	#226
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08-20-2005, 09:37 AM	#203
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	(damn, missed the 200 NO PRINTS FOR TIME photographers)

08-20-2005, 09:45 AM	#204
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.

08-20-2005, 10:25 AM	#215
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	Yeah, sorry about the Mikey.. I misunderstood your previous message - I thought you were giving him shit for "backing down" (implying that he should have stood his ground). My bad.

08-20-2005, 11:31 AM	#222
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	It's a pretty sad situation, but I'm sure it occurs very frequently in the industry. Most models are unable to fight back and we never hear any of this stuff. Bobbi just happens to be a strong-willed woman who has a lot of friends..

08-21-2005, 04:20 AM	#229
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Bump till Bobby gets her pics and an apology. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

08-22-2005, 10:15 AM	#233
K R I S T E N Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,438	Bump for BB...

08-22-2005, 11:28 AM	#241
Out Of Order So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 24	All I see is a bunch of photographers swarming in here to stomp on Abyss to look good. Abyss is a very talented photographer. Better than some of the guys in here trying to look good. Dismissing business with him would be foolish.

08-22-2005, 11:46 AM	#246
abyss_al LOOKING FOR TRADES Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 15,605	i didn't want to get any more involved with this idiocy... but here... THE ONLY REASON i went off at her is because we spoke that morning and had resolved this issue on icq.. told her ince it was uploaded, she would get the link, or if my employees had sent it out, shed get the tracking..... before i could even get to the office, she had made the post.... i gotta say though.. it was kinda smart of her.... with her new site design out, what better way to get some sig views for herself than this... then immediatley followed by her "fansign" thread.... good job.... __________________ EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com \| ICQ: 311329761 \| SKYPE: abyss.al \| AIM: xABYSSxALx

08-22-2005, 11:51 AM	#247
Out Of Order So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 24	Looks Like Little Miss BB has been on a promo angle all along.

08-22-2005, 12:11 PM	#249
Out Of Order So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 24	Perhaps Miss BB owes Abyss an apology as well. Prepping and correcting her photos for release and spending the time to work with her on his own time as well and talent. He was obviously busy. Do you think the photos were not being released because of some evil spite issue on his part? BB does not deserve an apology in my opinion, if anyone should get an apology it should be Abyss. You two were quick to come in and slander him. She got message that the photos were finally comming and she made this thread while he was enroute to upload them for her even. Look at his 1st response in this thread look at his second. Of course you do not want to post in this thread anymore Dean... You are looking like a desperate whore while stepping on a comrad to look better and Bobbu just wants to be the innocent while promoting herself at his expense. Truly pathetic.