Yeah I think thats it.. but from what I can tell they are still working on it... so who knows what the final thing is gonna look like..

Trust me, any kind of xsell on free cc verify join will affect ratios. The surfer is already wary on why he has to enter his cc info when it said "free", you then throw in any mention of a charge with the xsell and it will affect ratios. Several times over the last three years hsn who was getting the bulk of my cam traffic would add a xsell and mine and other webmasters ratios would immediately plummet, they would remove it and ratios would return.

Nothing against you Pimp, but I won't do biz with Epic because of your boss. Lately he seems to want to bag on the top cam programs by distorting the facts. I'm not really trying to bag on Epic, but just thought people should know the facts. I know Pimpdog thinks his antics are all fun and games, but I'm not inclined to do biz with someone who calls my mother a whore and at the same time wants my traffic. I gotta draw the line somewhere.

Cool, no problem.

Its working and been up for at least four months. I've only sent them a little traffic, but I do like their $25 + 20% program, although its only on a purchase and not a free cc verify.

Cool didn't know it was ready yet.. I tried it a while ago and it was very very buggy and i was told they were still working on it.. Yeah that $25 + 20 % looks nice even without the verify thing.. but I think my traffic likes the free verified sign up process the most.

Yeah those were the days, I was doing 1:45 for the month consistently. I've been doing 1:85 lately with hsn, so it seems that ifriends processing is somewhat better than it was after the switchover in jan and feb. I need to switch all my links and promo to ifriends and get the higher payout, just been lazy. I guess it still bothers me how all those hsn webmasters had their good cc rejected on test signups after the hsn switchover. I don't think CC shaves, but their fraud scrubbing at times is ridiculous, I never had these long stretches of hits without a sale on the old hsn.

So does my traffic, I wish Lars would come out with a free cc verify payout option. He has the promo material and system down now to make it profitable.

but he did try to offer me $60 per signup but recanted after i told him I would take him up on it.

In **most** cases you will convert as good (or bad) as the promos and advertising tools you are using to push that program. For ClickCash I make my own stuff and use the signup page in an iframe. I convert very well with them. Why someone would advertise a free website with fewer girls and fewer features for a lot less money is mind boggling to me.

If you get 60 signups for the period for clickcash you are making about a $45 per signup average. EVEN if you did convert a little less (which I could probably help you convert better) you would still make a lot more money with clickcash. Just makes no sense to me, why settle for less ??

Hey didn't we talk about this before in the past. I honestly can not remember I have talked to so many people. If you looking to switch back to ifriends let me help you. I will make custom stuff for you, the stuff that has converts the best for me. I try to tell everyone, they key to making good sales is how you advertise the program, basically how well YOU sell it. If you promos suck or are old your sales will suck. Even changing a couple words and the text you use is key and could make the difference on a lot of sales. If i help you tell everyone about it, if don't tell them I am full of shit and I don't know what I am talking about lol :winkwink:

What do you have to lose ?

they all use the same back end Bode who owns sextracker

Hehe, we talked last week and made a new cc account under tcc. I like your promo materials and am ready to switch over, just have a few questions regarding them. I hit you up on icq.

hey roger congrats on the new program