Is this industry saturated? What is the ratio of adult sites to surfers? Any idea? - GoFuckYourself.com

Furious_Female · 08-05-2005, 08:46 PM

Are there more adult sites, pages, and/portals than surfers? 2:1, 50:1, 1000:1 ratio? Is there just too much porn available? On top of pay per view, DVD/VHS rentals, magazines etc... there's plenty of porn to go around. Anyone have any statistics?

I personally think the more it becomes accepted in society, the less money there is to be made on it for "small timers." As long as it stays "taboo" in society, the less chance of major corporation competitors taking over the entire industry. Any thoughts on this?

Yeah, my brain is overactive today lol

Triple 6 · 08-05-2005, 08:53 PM

industry saturated? no

simply becuz theres tons of niches to be fully exploited / created / reinvented

certain niches saturated? yes.

in this day in age of web XXX, if your not truly creative or already established, you are wasting your fucking time.

Furious_Female · 08-05-2005, 08:58 PM

And by surfer, I mean prime candidates for a porn purchase... not 58 year old grandmothers surfing the web and stumble upon a porn site accidentally or 18 year old college students without credit cards etc.

abetech · 08-05-2005, 09:02 PM

No way. I have searched for atleast 10 niches that would make decent money and found nothing. So there is still quite aways to go before saturated.

Nismo · 08-05-2005, 09:03 PM

Never.

How many people join the internet each day for the first time? ALOT!
How many people are members to multiple paysites? ALOT!
How many people just turned 18 and got their first CC and want access to milfhunter? ALOT!
How many people just got a divorce and havent had a piece of ass in a while and are looking for some porn and are willing to whip out their cc? ALOT!

The internet is still new and alot of people still aren't on yet, but will soon be one of your longest recurring members. =)

Murderous · 08-05-2005, 09:04 PM

1:1 with "1" representing the webmasters.

Furious_Female · 08-05-2005, 09:08 PM

Just because 5 million (over exaggeration) new people get on the net everyday, doesn't mean they are all porn purchase candidates... especially in countries that have less credit cards than the US, Canada, etc.

How many new sites/TGP galleries, DVDs, and pay per view movies are released everyday? And out of all of these options, how much free porn is available that makes it so surfers do not have to buy anything to get off?

The next generation of internet users is wiser... more of them know how to get what they want for free, unlike newbie surfers in 1997.

AdultMegaCash · 08-05-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

Just because 5 million (over exaggeration) new people get on the net everyday, doesn't mean they are all porn purchase candidates... especially in countries that have less credit cards than the US, Canada, etc.

How many new sites/TGP galleries, DVDs, and pay per view movies are released everyday? And out of all of these options, how much free porn is available that makes it so surfers do not have to buy anything to get off?

The next generation of internet users is wiser... more of them know how to get what they want for free, unlike newbie surfers in 1997.

That's why you give them something that they need to pay for. Everyone has a certain niche they are into. You'll only get so much free porn until one day you'll have to pay.

Arousal Design · 08-05-2005, 09:23 PM

There's so much money to still be made in porn it'd scare you.

Nismo · 08-05-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Arousal Design

There's so much money to still be made in porn it'd scare you.

wedouglas · 08-05-2005, 09:41 PM

the problem is all these programs giving away all the goods for free on TGP's. Why would anyone pay for access to a site when they can google and find 300 galleries of exactly whats in the members area.

rickholio · 08-05-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Arousal Design

There's so much money to still be made in porn it'd scare you.

Liez!

There is no money in adult!

jayeff · 08-05-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Arousal Design

There's so much money to still be made in porn it'd scare you.

I agree, even more since those stats were published by XBiz and others a few weeks ago, showing how small a slice online porn has so far carved out of the total adult industry.

But I do think between free porn, processing issues, and the low cost of entry into this business, the market for high-price/high-margin porn is close to its ceiling. For the past 3-4 years I don't think we have been doing much more than spinning our wheels overall, with probably as many or more businesses in decline as growing.

So far online porn has largely been like those seedy strip clubs in places like London's Soho, with tired models popping in and out of each one in turn, an expensive "membership" to get in the door and ridiculous prices for drinks. If we are going to break out of the limited appeal this imposes on us and take real advantage of peoples' natural interest in sex, the answer (except perhaps in the very short term) isn't in finding new niches, but in a completely different approach to our business on almost every level. We need a product (or at least a presentation) which sustains peoples' interest beyond their initial curiousity and the price (the base price anyway) must be lower, to get more people in the door.

TheDoc · 08-05-2005, 10:08 PM

Math would have it about 12000 to 1

cherrylula · 08-05-2005, 10:18 PM

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Furious_Female · 08-05-2005, 10:24 PM

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08-05-2005, 08:46 PM	#1
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Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	And by surfer, I mean prime candidates for a porn purchase... not 58 year old grandmothers surfing the web and stumble upon a porn site accidentally or 18 year old college students without credit cards etc. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

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08-05-2005, 09:08 PM	#7
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	Just because 5 million (over exaggeration) new people get on the net everyday, doesn't mean they are all porn purchase candidates... especially in countries that have less credit cards than the US, Canada, etc. How many new sites/TGP galleries, DVDs, and pay per view movies are released everyday? And out of all of these options, how much free porn is available that makes it so surfers do not have to buy anything to get off? The next generation of internet users is wiser... more of them know how to get what they want for free, unlike newbie surfers in 1997. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

08-05-2005, 09:02 PM	#4
abetech Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 65	No way. I have searched for atleast 10 niches that would make decent money and found nothing. So there is still quite aways to go before saturated.

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wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	the problem is all these programs giving away all the goods for free on TGP's. Why would anyone pay for access to a site when they can google and find 300 galleries of exactly whats in the members area.

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