haha... that was a hilarious broadcast, I just think it sucks that they make the industry out to be such bad guys.

Complete BULLSHIT!

did the spammer get owned by dateline? or did we get owned by the spammer?

I remember right after the last Internext there was some talk on here about a reporter in a wheelchair NOw it comes out what the fuck he was up to. Nice site redirect there.. Popups and browser hijacks from hell. Nice way to kill the contraversy lmfao

By the way Thats the same reporter that traced those nigerian scammers right to the door of their housing project in Canada not long ago. The guy's good. DOnt want him on my ass lol

Ok, remember how that dude in the wheelchair went to a crappy datacenter in canada?

This is their website: http://dynamicpipe.com/

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That lady was Aly (formerly emplyee of Python, now of AVN) .. she's done more than her share of defending both companies imho ... she needs a RAISE!

Hubby and I remember seeing him there in his wheelchair and I even mentioned he looked like the reporter from Dateline at the time!
Luckily I dodged the cameras .. well except for maybe a side shot of boobie lol

The national media and the feds now are commonplace at our conventions - hmmmm

yep, it's very stupid they should have just shut the dam site down.

People running a big porn site, making all kinds of money and they do something stupid like this. If they had a brain they would take it out and play with it.

ROFLMAO

how Ironic .. look at the email I got just as I posted that reply
"This Weeks SpunkBucks Hosted Galleries"

heh heh

Too much money to be made.. Maybe... Greedy mofo's :321GFY

Any farm galleries? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

fiddy!!!!

A little advice 2 You sponsors, I think you had better give people a place to report spam, if you don't The Goverments of a lot of countries are going to come down on you.

I really don't think it will just be the US either.

They seem to give Canada a bad rap...

Just watched most of it.

some familiar names on the current site Cust. of Records :Oh crap

with Canada's privacy laws I was a bit surprised to see Python reviel his info .. but then again ...

Lets say they didnt give out the info. Dateline will go after them and make them out to be even worse. They probelly say python hired the guy, bla bla bla.

Python saved their skin by providing the affiliate info.

I am 100% against sending porn spam (or any UCE) but I am also 100% against kids having their own e-mail accounts and unsupervised access to the internet. :warning

Yep me too. I have twin 14 year old nieces and often see them pop on MSN or Yahoo at 1 and 2 in the morning. WTF do 14 year olds have to do online at that time of the nite? :warning

I am 2 but what you and me think, makes no Diff. to Mom's and dad's all over the world. And they sure the fuck have a BIG voice.

I really think the parents are lazy and doing a very poor job.

The internet has turned into a cheap baby sitter for a lot of them.

i wonder what happen to that guy in montreal.... :)

David Van Der Poel is the owner of python/spunk farm. Hockenbarry is an idiot reporter.

its simple, dont send spam, dont deal with animal porn.

Exactly. As much as they let videogames and TV be a babysitter, then want prosecution against those things when they aren't presenting to their children what they want. :Oh crap

This goes way beyond animal porn. That was chosen for the show for "maximum shock value". :2 cents:

While I think "kids" shouldn't have Internet access, and parents should watch what their teens are doing online, it is also some of these programs / spammers fault..

While it's not "normally" american / canadian companies, spammers do spam anything.. They buy hacked lists, ripped lists, bs register game sites, etc.. They will send porn spam or any thing else that will pay them money..

I think non-porn spam is worse than the porn spam. It's 10:1, gets through more filters, and normally is a scam. I can filter out "MOST" porn spam..

Parents like the "texas girl" shouldn't be allowed to have Internet Access. If you are to stupid to use a computer then they should take away Internet access. You know she has 500 spyware programs installed and 50 virus'. I'm sure she has every casino software, 8 toolbars, and has an account with every texas bell site on the net.

And dateline = morons.. learn to report. The onlything they did correctly was show one of the largest spam companies on the net.

The site doesn't even have any ani porn.. It's a hardcore site with girls standing next to the animals with no cloths on.. The onlything dateline did with its shacok value was produce them a ton of signups.

sure but you wouldnt end up on dateline if you followed the rules

wow...i logged onto dollarmachine to check stats, and there on the second page....there it was....
SPUNK FARM!!!!!
and I even didn't have to spend weeks of time and thousands of dollars in travel back and forth to Canada and Vegas to find out whose site it was :helpme

It is the fault of spammers that lazy parents allow their kids be exposed to inappropriate materials online? :eek7

I think it should be the crime of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor" to allow them surf the net unsupervised, as much as it would be to allow them to drink, drive, smoke, or other things intended for adults.
I'm close to shutting down an address I've used for webmaster stuff forever and replacing it with a spamtrapping method. It's totally out of control. Unfortunately, as Dateline mentioned, much of it is being done by those outside jourisdiction of our laws. Jail every US/Canadian spammer tomorrow and the spam would just increase from other countries taking advantage of less competition.
I hear ya! :thumbsup
Absolutely! Other than your first comment, excellent post! :thumbsup

The reporter enjoyed his expense account globtrotting for the story :winkwink:

My first comment was correct.. Part to blame is the program owners / spammers.. Why send spam to people that didn't at least signup for a paysite? Hell, if you didn't ASK for it, you shouldn't get it at all. That lady was super Christian, her ass was spammed hard like.

I don't have a problem with the spam laws. I think it sucks that if you run an adult newsletter that is double opt in you could get nailed if you don't have the correct subject and crap.. But the fact is most aren't real newsletters.

thats one dude in a wheelchair id kick in the face

I'm guessing that SpunkFarm has nothing to do with actual beastiality, even though that is what Dateline seemed to imply (of course that is what the makers of SpunkFarm imply as well).

It is a friggin' pop-up farm though...sheesh!

I checked Alexa, and traffic for SpunkFarm is up 50% today over their 3 month average. I wonder if Dateline has an affiliate code? Even though I have no affiliates and no spam program, and the only animals on my site are like stuffed unicorns, why couldn't Dateline have given me 20+ plugs on national TV for free...Damn!!!

BTW, I thought everyone from the industry was quite polite, even the spammer dude.

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agreed! :)

I don't know why people find it so hard to track down who owns sites..


I think a lot of us can point out who owns the site just by the design. Not that he could..

I'd bet good money that her e-mail address was not harvested from any christian source :winkwink:

As you said earlier:Spam laws can only be applied to those obligated to follow them. It's a WORLD WIDE web.

The Texas woman could be on a family ISP and use filtering software that only allows sites pre-approved for family viewing. She said herself she clicked on the porn spam ad to be bombarded with all of the popup windows. Gee... wonder what happens if I kick the unfriendly dog? :upsidedow

Kinda like p2p gets bigger every time it's decried :)

As a webmaster you'll expect 100 plus porn spam each day ,it seems like a definite catch 22 situation.If you were making huge coin from spam would you honestly say you wouldn't do it?And that perhaps "some" sponsors would sweep it under the carpet?..somebody was caught and probably won't be the last

I thought that whole story was hilarious. The way they made it seem like they Aly "admitting" that python owned spunkfarm was something he tricked her into saying...when it is common knowlege that they owned the site..and it never contained any beastiality. The only thing that actually troubled me about it was that python actually gave out the info of one of there webmasters to the media! My heart jumped for a second. I remeber doing some mailing to dollarmachine a few years ago (totally legit of course ;) ). I can't believe they just gave out the guys name and contact info without a court order or anything!

Its on VOD

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/
free video: Nightly News
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As I said on my board.

Thinking about the Dateline show , I realised this.

Not once was there any mention of any illegal activity by either the website operator , nor the mailer.

The program was purely a "Moral values" issue.

A bunch of Republican "family values" Americans came to Canada to tell a mailer he was a naughty boy.

He couldn't and didn't tell him he had broken the law , because as a Canadian , he hadn't.

And he was smart enough to go along and take the path of least resistance and say "Yeah sorry bout that"

I would have , if he had caught me in a bad mood when I did mail , advised him to combine sex and travel , and fuck off :)

So mailers have few morals?

Wow!!! LOL