Would bombing the whole middle east solve the terrorism problem?

[Za Ha]

Would that be a possible solution or would that start more problems?

Discuss.

[Doc911]

unfortunately it wouldn't as a lot of the terrorists aren't even there at any given time.

[Realpascal]

It would definately make MY day..

[Sosa]

have to go after asia too I would suppose. they are all over the place never going to get em all.

[wjxxx]

The worst problem is muslims/arabs living in western countries

[nexcom28]

Jesus fuckin H Christ.. You can't just go round bombing the shit out of middle eastern countries.. think of all the innocent women and children, besides it wouldn't make a shit of difference anyway.

[gangbangjoe]

bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity

[DutchTeenCash]

yes and the moon is made of cheese

[wha wha wha]

Bomb first, ask questions later.

[gangbangjoe]

Originally Posted by thinkx

yes and the moon is made of cheese

yes it is

zoom in at google moon

[Za Ha]

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

yes it is

zoom in at google moon

hey I told u that

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

The systematic removal of a few cultures would actually benefit the planet as a whole.

[gangbangjoe]

Originally Posted by Za Ha

hey I told u that

yep i know

[Rich]

Are you stupid or joking? Sometimes, I can't tell. At first I thought your were serious.

[NetRodent]

When was the last time the Catheginians bothered anybody?

Go go Scipio!

[Dirty Dane]

No need for that. Intelligence is not meant to last. Some day we all get killed by the massive asteroid. Life back to normal - like its been for billion years - problem s0lved.!

[davethetruth]

The Muslim religion is like #2 or #3 in the world, so the rest of them in the US, UK and everywhere else would declare jihad on our asses.

[Nazgrel]

The US's bombing and general fucking around in the middle east is the reason for terrorism and bombing them all to hell wouldnt do anyone any good as all other muslims would join up for terrorism.

[nexcom28]

The Muslim religion is like #2 or #3 in the world, so the rest of them in the US, UK and everywhere else would declare jihad on our asses.

I think in fact that the muslim religion has the BIGGEST following in the world.

[Rui]

stupid reasoning since bombing the whole middle east would be terrorism...duhhhh

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Rui

stupid reasoning since bombing the whole middle east would be terrorism...duhhhh

This only applies to non-us countries....

If the US does it, it is " liberation " ....

[jacksparrow]

As far as Im concerned, us sand hahahahahahas been around a lot longer then you white folks, so why is it our culture the needs to be removed? I fucking despise terrorists and most muslim countries including my home country. I have lost my uncle, aunt, cousin, and a few others to ruthless executions in these retarded religious fanatics. I have more reason to hate terrorists then anyone on this board, so please don't come in with the "lets just bomb the middle east approach." Fight terrorism, but don't forget the countries we invade also house millions of innocent people that are just trying to get by with out getting hot led in their ass.

[BuggyG]

hmmm.. bomd if ya want.. but see
it's usually SLEEPER CELLS already residing in the country of target.. for years (ok sometimes just months/weeks..but you get my point)

you gonna bomb the innocent cause of a few bad apples

[AmigoPorn]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

The systematic removal of a few cultures would actually benefit the planet as a whole.

Are you talking about imperialists cultures?

[psili]

"The immaculate lotus grows in muddy swamps just as an enlightened 
being arises from the contaminated world, unstained by its pollutants. In the 
same way, our own enlightenment will arise from the mud of our samsaric  lives, 
our buddha nature shining pure, luminous, and uncontaminated by the ignorance 
and karma in which it is now blanketed."

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by AmigoPorn

Are you talking about imperialists cultures?

Definatly.

The Hi Jacking of Islam with its Theocratic Imperialists must be stopped.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Iraqis are a people that want freedom. Why wouldnt they want freedom for there people after a hard Religeous rule were then thrown into the hands of a dictator named Saddam. Iraqi's have had enough. Unfortunatly the problematic elements invading Iraq are not the Americans it's the surrounding nations imposing there will on Iraq after the fall of Saddam that is complicating things.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Remember the US in Iraq war 1 left many Iraqi's to die at the request of the world crying for America to leave Iraq.

The USA wanted to take out Saddam and do what it should have a long time ago.

Iraqi's were with the Americans on the first Iraq War.
They are with Americans again attempting to form a government.

These terrorists comming into Iraq and killing Americans and Iraqi's are not Iraqi's but agents from surrounding countries.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Remember when Iran and its human wave atacks occured in Iraq?
Remember when Saddam Gassed Kurds?
Remember the 100,000 + Iraqi's Saddam's rule killed and murdered?

Remember when Saddam's children gleefully tortured athletes and raped various people in thier country?

Remember the day everyone in the world feared Saddam?

One nation did not fear him.
We killed his children and now have Saddam stuck in a tin can.

[pornguy]

That is one of those things that you wish you could run the test, and if the test proves good, then do it,.

[Downtime]

i'd sleep a lot better every night if we did

[AmigoPorn]

I say kill all extremists. When I say extremists, I mean from both sides of the spectrum.

[Rui]

Its amazing the amount of stupid comments in this thread, and then you wonder why most of the world hates the US...gezzz

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Remember when Iran and its human wave atacks occured in Iraq?
Remember when Saddam Gassed Kurds?
Remember the 100,000 + Iraqi's Saddam's rule killed and murdered?

Remember when Saddam's children gleefully tortured athletes and raped various people in thier country?

Remember the day everyone in the world feared Saddam?

One nation did not fear him.
We killed his children and now have Saddam stuck in a tin can.

it's not remember, ... it's REPEAT

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

These terrorists comming into Iraq are not Iraqi's but agents from surrounding countries.

from the US : 130,000 of them .. armed and dangerous!

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

from the US : 130,000 of them .. armed and dangerous!

Thats an understatment.
Its best outfitted Military the entire world has ever seen in history.

The New Romans are back in the Middle East and doing what should have always been done so that the common folk have fair laws and rule in the region.

Face it...

The Middle East is a fucken wreck, has been before the oil and has been during and will be after. The only time the Middle East was productive in history is when the Romans came in and clean up the zeolot's exerting tyranny on the people.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

The Middle East is a fucken wreck, has been before the oil and has been during and will be after. The only time the Middle East was productive in history is when the Romans came in and clean up the zeolot's exerting tyranny on the people.

I recall that Iran had a thriving democracy under the leadership of Dr.Mohammed Mossadegh until he tried to make the mistake of nationalizing the petroleum industry. Venezuela seems to have the same problem right now...

[RazorSharpe]

Ignorance is bliss and flaunting ones ignorance is retarded. AlienQ, do yourself and humanity a favour, step on a mine or some such shit!

Cheers ...

[Dalai lama]

It would generate more bombings from there side.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

I recall that Iran had a thriving democracy under the leadership of Dr.Mohammed Mossadegh until he tried to make the mistake of nationalizing the petroleum industry. Venezuela seems to have the same problem right now...

Was it the oil? or Islamic idealists?

Better reread that part of Middle eastern history

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

It would generate more bombings from there side.

you cannot bomb with camels.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Was it the oil? or Islamic idealists?

Better reread that part of Middle eastern history

"Mossadegh was tried for treason, and sentenced to three years in prison. Following his release he remained under house arrest until his death in 1967. The new government under the Shah in August 1954 reached an agreement with foreign oil companies to "restore the flow of Iranian oil to world markets in substantial quantities."

In March 2000, then secretary of state Madeleine Albright stated her regret that Mossadegh was ousted: "The Eisenhower administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons. But the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development and it is easy to see now why many Iranians continue to resent this intervention by America." In the same year, the New York Times published a detailed report about the coup based on CIA documents.


You tell me.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

SultanOfSMut -

I read the same thing you did.
Yup the CIA was on it, so was British MI6.
However the 3rd element not seriously taken as a factor in the whole thing were the Islamic religeous "Agents" at work as well. The Islamic Religeon was underestimated.

Look who won that...

The Islamic Fundamentalists of course!

[QuaWee]

But what about the U.S.?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by QuaWee

But what about the U.S.?

The US lost its ass in Iran on a political level.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Side note.

The USA's, CIA are bunch of fucking idiots.

Iran proved it and so did there latest "Intelligence" assessments regarding Iraq.

Seriously I do not think the USA's CIA needed to convince the American People falsly in the build up to war. Fake WMD claims etc from American CIA was not necessary. Saddam had to be removed the world knew it and the UN would have approved of strikes in due time. It was already evident and if Bushes move came with UN backing the Americans would have agreed anyways to fixing the problems of Iraq.

I said it before Bush is a stupid Texan, realistically he could have waited till UN backing occured. But for a few dollars more the USA went in alone with extra profits in mind. Ultimatly the right thing is happening IMHO. I just do not agree with how its all been done.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

SultanOfSMut -

I read the same thing you did.
Yup the CIA was on it, so was British MI6.
However the 3rd element not seriously taken as a factor in the whole thing were the Islamic religeous "Agents" at work as well. The Islamic Religeon was underestimated.

Look who won that...

The Islamic Fundamentalists of course!

I read that when the people of the region expressed a desire to share in the profits from the sale of their one resource the British threw a tantrum and blocked all shipments of oil causing the economy to collapse and poverty to flourish. At that point the US and Britain worked to encite an anti-parlimentary sentiment which led to the overthrow of a democratically elected government and installation of a monarchy once again. The Shah then opened the door for foreign oil companies and it was business as usual until 1979; the rest we all know about.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

I read that when the people of the region expressed a desire to share in the profits from the sale of their one resource the British threw a tantrum and blocked all shipments of oil causing the economy to collapse and poverty to flourish.

Whats that translate to you?
It translates to me that those people wanted to increase the prices.
The clients (Oil Buyers) would be the same that would not change.

"people of the region" as you so say were Islamic Fundamentalists.

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

At that point the US and Britain worked to encite an anti-parlimentary sentiment which led to the overthrow of a democratically elected government and installation of a monarchy once again.

Analylise that for a minute.
In the intelligence community it was a lesser of two evils.
Higher prices or Business as usual were really the two choices.
Monarchy was business as usual in this scenerio.
Thats why Intelligence is a failure when used offensivly. It fucks up everytime because some dickhead wants to keep a price cut on his backers.
Iraq is no different than Iran cept this time around its being done with Military might and not an intelligence slant.
The USA and Britians goal and the world goal ultimatly will be for Iraqi's to sell oil to the world for profit in Iraq.

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

The Shah then opened the door for foreign oil companies and it was business as usual until 1979; the rest we all know about.

Yes the Shaw...
He was the best of both worlds and thrown into exile by religeous fundamentalists.

[Hollywood Horwitz]

the idea of bombing for peace is rather ridulous..all actions will call for a response..

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Whats that translate to you?
It translates to me that those people wanted to increase the prices.
The clients (Oil Buyers) would be the same that would not change.

"people of the region" as you so say were Islamic Fundamentalists.




Analylise that for a minute.
In the intelligence community it was a lesser of two evils.
Higher prices or Business as usual were really the two choices.
Monarchy was business as usual in this scenerio.
Thats why Intelligence is a failure when used offensivly. It fucks up everytime because some dickhead wants to keep a price cut on his backers.
Iraq is no different than Iran cept this time around its being done with Military might and not an intelligence slant.
The USA and Britians goal and the world goal ultimatly will be for Iraqi's to sell oil to the world for profit in Iraq.



Yes the Shaw...
He was the best of both worlds and thrown into exile by religeous fundamentalists.

A nationalized petroleum industry would not mean higher prices since every oil producing country would still be competing for sales (the majority of the oil the US imports comes from Canada and until the mid-80s petroleam production was a nationalized industry). That's just corporate propaganda.

What happened in the 50s isn't ancient history and should be looked at when discussing the motivations for current global conflicts - especially when 'speading freedom and democracy' is one of the justifications used.