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  • dropped9
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    • Jan 2001
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    #1

    Why do females have low self esteem? I mean come on...

    Why do females think it is ok for a man to treat them like shit? Why is this? Is it a self esteem issue or what?

    Here's an example...

    One girl I know has been with the same guy for 5 or 6 years. He always fails to do anything special for her birthday, christmas, any holiday or occasion for that matter. There is always some excuse.

    This same guy cant even get a decent job other then working at compusa.. She makes way more then him and pays most of their bills.

    Doesnt she get tired of making excuses to herself and everyone else when she gets asked, "So what did so and so do for your birthday?"

    Some chicks need to wake the fuck up.

    And no this chick is not ugly. She is a fine looking lady.

    So what gives?
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    • Sly
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      #2
      A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
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        • Headless
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          #3
          Originally posted by Sly
          A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
          Exactly. You said it perfectly.

          It make no fuckin sense.

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            • Headless
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              #4
              Originally posted by Sly
              A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
              btw.... r u guys going to fl?

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                • Sly
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Headless
                  btw.... r u guys going to fl?
                  No, we are not. I'm planning on doing the Costa Rica and Santa Monica show though, I don't like how close together the dates are, practically back-to-back.
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                    • E Guru
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by Sly
                      A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
                      Because guys are assholes because they have lots of girls to choose from, that is because they look good, or have a smooth style, or are rich, ect..
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                        • E Guru
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Headless
                          Why do females think it is ok for a man to treat them like shit? Why is this? Is it a self esteem issue or what?

                          Here's an example...

                          One girl I know has been with the same guy for 5 or 6 years. He always fails to do anything special for her birthday, christmas, any holiday or occasion for that matter. There is always some excuse.

                          This same guy cant even get a decent job other then working at compusa.. She makes way more then him and pays most of their bills.

                          Doesnt she get tired of making excuses to herself and everyone else when she gets asked, "So what did so and so do for your birthday?"

                          Some chicks need to wake the fuck up.

                          And no this chick is not ugly. She is a fine looking lady.

                          So what gives?
                          Because they thinkt hey can't do better, can be many other reasons also
                          Guru

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                            • TurboAngel
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Sly
                              A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
                              It all stems from how Daddy was with them, if they were talked down to and beat growing up they think if a guy is mean and beats them then that means the guy loves them. I don't get it myself but that's how it is.


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                                • tony299
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                  A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
                                  Because nice guys are boring.

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                                    • JuiceMonkey
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                                      they get attached.
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                                        • wha wha wha
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Headless
                                          Why do females think it is ok for a man to treat them like shit? Why is this? Is it a self esteem issue or what?

                                          Here's an example...

                                          One girl I know has been with the same guy for 5 or 6 years. He always fails to do anything special for her birthday, christmas, any holiday or occasion for that matter. There is always some excuse.

                                          This same guy cant even get a decent job other then working at compusa.. She makes way more then him and pays most of their bills.

                                          Doesnt she get tired of making excuses to herself and everyone else when she gets asked, "So what did so and so do for your birthday?"

                                          Some chicks need to wake the fuck up.

                                          And no this chick is not ugly. She is a fine looking lady.

                                          So what gives?
                                          Maybe he has a 10 inch cock?

                                          (just saying because I know someone like that and it is the reason they are together, lol)

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                                            • tristan_D
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                                              maybe because women are more emotional. when they have low self esteem, its more obvious than men.
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                                                • Ice
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                  A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
                                                  I ask myself that also
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                                                    • PixeLs
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                                      A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
                                                      I feel sorry for you man..

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                                                        • Eman - PG
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                                                          Pipecrew said it best: women are like monkeys, they need a (better) branch to hang onto before letting go of the other.

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                                                            • Zester
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                                                              #16
                                                              if men don't abuse women - women will abuse and manipulate the crap out of men

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                                                                • Zester
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                  Because nice guys are boring.
                                                                  nice guys are boring AND there is no such thing as a nice girl, only a better acting girl - girls lie. yes they lie. the "nice" part is an act, they will tell you what you want to hear, laugh at your not funny jokes etc. etc. and you will think "she's nice". nice guys still believe there are nice girls. wake the fuck up, NO ONE IS NICE!!@!!
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                                                                    • Worldnet
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                                                                        • Zester
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TurboAngel
                                                                          It all stems from how Daddy was with them, if they were talked down to and beat growing up they think if a guy is mean and beats them then that means the guy loves them. I don't get it myself but that's how it is.


                                                                          there ya go
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                                                                            • HughJardon
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                                                              A better question is why do so many women prefer to be with assholes over guys that will treat them fairly.
                                                                              because he works at compusa but he comes home and lays the pipe having her climbing the walls like spiederman!
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                                                                                • TurboAngel
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Zester
                                                                                  there ya go
                                                                                  TurboAngel is catching up.

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                                                                                    • phogirl69
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Because there are too many other pretty girls around and too much competition. Sometimes girls will see a girl who is really pretty and then get depressed. Ummm, I'm speaking from experience.

                                                                                      No matter how pretty you are there will always be someone prettier or hotter, it's very depressing...

                                                                                      so sometimes you give up and think you can't get any better.
                                                                                      Last edited by phogirl69; 08-04-2005, 05:25 PM.

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                                                                                        • Spunky
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Women need discipline.They prefer someone who is in charge and dominate..So I guess treat them like shit and they adore you..shrugs

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                                                                                            • Missy
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Sometimes it's not about self esteem. Some girls just can't handle the thought of being alone. So until (or unless) something better comes along, she is perfectly content (not necessarily happy, but content) to stay right where she is because face it... it could be much worse.

                                                                                              (I have a sister who is exactly like what I just described. I love her dearly, but the thought of ever being alone scares her more than the idea of living contentedly with the same deadbeat of a man for the rest of her life.)
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                                                                                                • tungsten
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  someone needs to wake the bitch up
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                                                                                                    • Furious_Female
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                                                                                                      Sometimes people (women) gravitate to the level they feel comfortable at. They don't feel they can have better, so they settle for what they do have, instead of risking being alone. Some people think being alone is worse than being unhappy in a relationship. They'd take the 3% happiness and deal with the 97% unhappiness to avoid being 100% alone.
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                                                                                                        • Headless
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                                                                                                          Ok but lets throw this wrench in there...

                                                                                                          What if they have met and do know another guy who is HOT and she would be way better off with him?

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                                                                                                            • Headless
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by tungsten
                                                                                                              someone needs to wake the bitch up
                                                                                                              Dude... I have been trying for 5 years now.

                                                                                                              And no I am not trying to "get her" nor have I ever done anything with her... I am married. I was just once a very close friend of hers.

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                                                                                                                • Furious_Female
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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Headless
                                                                                                                  Ok but lets throw this wrench in there...

                                                                                                                  What if they have met and do know another guy who is HOT and she would be way better off with him?
                                                                                                                  It all comes down to security again. Being hot is totally irrelevant to an insecure woman. In fact, that other guy being hot is probably worse for her. She probably has stereotypes in her mind about "hot guys" already. She doesn't see it as being better... she sees it as a big risk, with an uncertain outcome.
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                                                                                                                    • Furious_Female
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                                                                                                                      Also, you can't try to convince women with low self esteem that they deserve better than the shitty relationship they have. They have to figure it out for themselves. In fact, the more you tell them, the more defensive they will become.
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                                                                                                                        • basschick
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                                                                                                                          i know plenty of guys who get treated like shit by their girlfriends and wives. it ain't just women.
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                                                                                                                            • phogirl69
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                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Headless
                                                                                                                              Ok but lets throw this wrench in there...

                                                                                                                              What if they have met and do know another guy who is HOT and she would be way better off with him?

                                                                                                                              The hot guy is more likely to cheat, an uglier guy who is poor (less financial resources to cheat) is less likely to cheat. That is my theory. I always avoid guys who are very hot, and any guy who is wealthy. Rich men are the worst. They have all the resources to buy any woman or hooker they want, plus they have a sense of entitlement.

                                                                                                                              Hot guys are no good. A guy who is not too hot and not wealthy is more likely to stick around...
                                                                                                                              Last edited by phogirl69; 08-04-2005, 06:47 PM.

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                                                                                                                                • phogirl69
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                                                                                                                                  Also hot guys are used to women being drawn to them and are more likely to be tempted. I don't think any hot guy will stay true at all, better to be with someone who treats your worse but at least will stay faithful.

                                                                                                                                  Well, if the guy is unattractive plus poor plus cheats as well, then it's really hopeless..

                                                                                                                                  Also some people stick with guys who treat them bad because they are too depressed to meet someone new. It takes a lot of energy and its giving away a part of you, in order for someone to get to know you, and it's too much of a risk in case it doesn't work out.

                                                                                                                                  Sometimes people are just tired of life and take what they can get. They don't have the strength to be on their own and face the world alone plus they don't have the energy to meet someone new and face all the "competition" out there from other women.

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                                                                                                                                    • Furious_Female
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                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by phogirl69
                                                                                                                                      The hot guy is more likely to cheat, an uglier guy who is poor (less financial resources to cheat) is less likely to cheat. That is my theory. I always avoid guys who are very hot, and any guy who is wealthy. Rich men are the worst. They have all the resources to buy any woman or hooker they want, plus they have a sense of entitlement.

                                                                                                                                      Hot guys are no good. A guy who is not too hot and not wealthy is more likely to stick around...
                                                                                                                                      Not true. My boyfriend is hot, smart, and makes a lot of money. The things you speak of are just stereotypes and misguided reservations. To me, money and looks do not define who a person is. Their mind and heart is where it's at. Even the ugliest person can, will, and do stray if that's part of their personality.
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                                                                                                                                        • phogirl69
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                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                                                                                          Not true. My boyfriend is hot, smart, and makes a lot of money. The things you speak of are just stereotypes and misguided reservations. To me, money and looks do not define who a person is. Their mind and heart is where it's at. Even the ugliest person can, will, and do stray if that's part of their personality.
                                                                                                                                          Yes, you are right, someone rich and good looking can be faithful of course, i just think the chances might not be as good than with someone not as rich and handsome. It's just a stereotype I built in my head and I know sometimes I "discriminate" against certain men if they are too wealthy or successful or handsome...

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                                                                                                                                            • Audrey
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                                                                                                                                              answer is simple... many women are too emotionally dependent
                                                                                                                                              or they are just dumb and cant see whats going on.

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                                                                                                                                                • venus
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                                                                                                                                                  sounds like a girl you want but cant have, stop stalking her and find someone else - if she is happy with him thats her business and no one elses - what you mentioned has nothing to do with self esteem.



                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Headless
                                                                                                                                                  Why do females think it is ok for a man to treat them like shit? Why is this? Is it a self esteem issue or what?
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                                                                                                                                                    • nofx
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                                                                                                                                                      this thread was a great read

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                                                                                                                                                        • Carol@Pixipay
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                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by venus
                                                                                                                                                          sounds like a girl you want but cant have, stop stalking her and find someone else - if she is happy with him thats her business and no one elses - what you mentioned has nothing to do with self esteem.
                                                                                                                                                          I think he said he was married.....

                                                                                                                                                          Anyway, of course it has to do with self esteem. If you don't believe yourself to be deserving you will settle for less, sometimes not even realizing it. Self esteem is almost always the core issue here - say you are afraid to be alone for example, you probably believe that you are not capable of handling the pressures of being alone - to include finances, lonliness whatever - you would not believe this to be true and as a result stay in an unhappy relationship if you didnt have low self esteem. The fear is definately a factor however self esteem is the core. Same holds true for an abusive father etc etc, different outer issues, came core issue.....

                                                                                                                                                          It also holds true for men and women alike. I know plenty of men that remain unhappy.....



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                                                                                                                                                            • blazin
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                                                                                                                                                              Man.... there are a lot of Sigmund Freud's on this thread. In fact, Headless you sound like one her jealous 'girlfriends'.
                                                                                                                                                              Ever thought maybe she loves him for reasons other that his loser job as you call it.

                                                                                                                                                              Money does not a man make.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Headless
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                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by venus
                                                                                                                                                                  sounds like a girl you want but cant have, stop stalking her and find someone else - if she is happy with him thats her business and no one elses - what you mentioned has nothing to do with self esteem.
                                                                                                                                                                  next time you decide to make a witty comment read the thread first dipshit.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Headless
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                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by blazin
                                                                                                                                                                      Man.... there are a lot of Sigmund Freud's on this thread. In fact, Headless you sound like one her jealous 'girlfriends'.
                                                                                                                                                                      Ever thought maybe she loves him for reasons other that his loser job as you call it.

                                                                                                                                                                      Money does not a man make.

                                                                                                                                                                      Jealous girlfriend? LOL I have know this girl for 12 fucking years. Dont forget the fact that I am happily married. LOL

                                                                                                                                                                      What the fuck would I be jealous of? His 7 dollar an hour compusa job? His ability to absolutely NEVER treat her the way she should be treated? His complete and total mooching off of her as she pays all of his bills?

                                                                                                                                                                      You fucking idiots need to get a grip.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • qwe
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by blazin
                                                                                                                                                                          Man.... there are a lot of Sigmund Freud's on this thread. In fact, Headless you sound like one her jealous 'girlfriends'.
                                                                                                                                                                          Ever thought maybe she loves him for reasons other that his loser job as you call it.

                                                                                                                                                                          Money does not a man make.
                                                                                                                                                                          to some degree money does make a man, alittle... money gives u power, what do woman like ? power... money can give u confidence, what do woman like ? confidence... money can make a man to believe in himself...

                                                                                                                                                                          tell me who got the most confidence:
                                                                                                                                                                          a guy working in compusa, making little money, driving pos car
                                                                                                                                                                          or
                                                                                                                                                                          a guy who made it by himself, makes alot of money, drives bmws/benzs

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Headless
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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by qwe
                                                                                                                                                                              to some degree money does make a man, alittle... money gives u power, what do woman like ? power... money can give u confidence, what do woman like ? confidence... money can make a man to believe in himself...

                                                                                                                                                                              tell me who got the most confidence:
                                                                                                                                                                              a guy working in compusa, making little money, driving pos car
                                                                                                                                                                              or
                                                                                                                                                                              a guy who made it by himself, makes alot of money, drives bmws/benzs
                                                                                                                                                                              It's not only about the money he makes. It is about the fact that this dipshit never takes her out to nice meal, to a nice place. He never shows her how much he appreciates her.

                                                                                                                                                                              He did absolutely nothing for her birthday. He did absolutely nothing for her on valentines day.

                                                                                                                                                                              and I mean NOTHING... just fuckin excuses...

                                                                                                                                                                              I dont know about you guys, but I love taking my wife out to dinner, doing cool things for her on valentines day. Even if I was completely fucking broke and didnt have a pot to piss in I would make her feel special and do whatever could for her on days like that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Arousal Design
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                                                                                                                                                                                  I think the answer stems deep within the confines of human genetics and long developing psyhocological tendencies that have evolved since beginning of humankind.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Seriously.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • blazin
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by qwe
                                                                                                                                                                                      tell me who got the most confidence:
                                                                                                                                                                                      a guy working in compusa, making little money, driving pos car
                                                                                                                                                                                      or
                                                                                                                                                                                      a guy who made it by himself, makes alot of money, drives bmws/benzs
                                                                                                                                                                                      none of those things mean confidence with the opposite sex.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • MetaMan
                                                                                                                                                                                          I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 28682
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          she does not want you so dont ask why,

                                                                                                                                                                                          some girls cling to that sorta shit, these dudes knock them down so bad they feel they will not get anything or anywhere else.

                                                                                                                                                                                          people are afrain of change, and afraid to move on, some women enjoy to be treated like shit also.

                                                                                                                                                                                          and once again no women want you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Rui
                                                                                                                                                                                              web
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 9533
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                                              Because nice guys are boring.
                                                                                                                                                                                              beeing treated like shit must be very exciting

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Digibucks
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1899
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  the LOVE for the guy answers it all
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • woj
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 47882
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
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