CA seeks felony conviction of 11 year old girl who threw rock at boy harassing her - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 08-03-2005, 06:41 AM

Trial begins today.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164578,00.html

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The defense strategy will include showing that Maribel's action was provoked, and that she had been subject to harassment before, Bennett said. "This has occurred more than once so Maribel's reaction may have not been unwarranted," she said.

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/1717814.php

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A support rally was held in Fresno for an eleven year old Maribel Cuevas, arrested for defending herself against neighborhood boys who were throwing water balloons at her. Maribel, who threw a rock and hit one of the boys, was arrested by a Fresno police officer who hand cuffed her as she lie on the ground with his knee on her back. Three police cars responded and a law enforcement helicopter was overhead during the arrest of the young girl. She was taken to juvenile hall where she spent the next 5 days. The charge against her is felony assault with a deadly weapon and her trial is due to start on Wednesday, August 3, 2005.

The arrest happened in April 2005 when Maribel was outside her home and several neighborhood boys rode by on their bikes, teasing her, calling her names, and throwing water balloons at her. When the boys refused to leave, Maribel responded by throwing a rock that hit one of the boys on the forehead. An aunt of one of her playmates saw the boy?s forehead was bleeding and put a towel on it to stop the bleeding. She then called 911. In the meantime, Maribel ran to the boys house to apologize to his parents.

Maribel says that when the police arrived they grabbed her from behind, "by my shirt. I was so scared. . . I didn?t know what they were doing." Maribel?s mother, Guadalupe Cuevas, tried to reach her daughter but was kept away by arresting officers. Guadalupe does not speak English and the arresting officers did not speak Spanish. Maribel was read her Maranda rights (twice) in English, taken to juvenile hall, and booked on felony assault charges. She was held in juvenile hall for the next five days, without seeing her parents.

In California:
Assault with a deadly weapon as defined above is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three or four years, or in a county jail for not less than six months and not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both fine and imprisonment.

dready · 08-03-2005, 06:44 AM

She should get life in prison... that'll teach those delinquent little shits!

12clicks · 08-03-2005, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Trial begins today.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164578,00.html
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/1717814.php

In California:
Assault with a deadly weapon as defined above is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three or four years, or in a county jail for not less than six months and not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both fine and imprisonment.

2 things to note here.

1. when you elect liberals, you get more and more senseless laws.

2. when living in America, it helps to speak the fucking language.

Fletch XXX · 08-03-2005, 06:48 AM

remember the kid on trial for killing his sister in wrestling move?

whole world felt sorry for him.

let him off, and two years later he was arm robbing stores and killed someone

kids arent always innocent thats for sure

BVF · 08-03-2005, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

1. when you elect liberals, you get more and more senseless laws.

Hell hath frozen over...12clicks actually said something that makes some sense. Holy shit...

Let me go play the number today.

bringer · 08-03-2005, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

2 things to note here.

1. when you elect liberals, you get more and more senseless laws.

2. when living in America, it helps to speak the fucking language.

1. this entire area is far from liberal

2. damn right

12clicks · 08-03-2005, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer

1. this entire area is far from liberal

2. damn right

1. state law

bringer · 08-03-2005, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

1. state law

state law doesnt apply in bubbas district

12clicks · 08-03-2005, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Hell hath frozen over...12clicks actually said something that makes some sense. Holy shit...

Let me go play the number today.

imagine the lack of intelligence if this is the first time this guy could follow what I said.

Doctor Dre · 08-03-2005, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

2 things to note here.

1. when you elect liberals, you get more and more senseless laws.

2. when living in America, it helps to speak the fucking language.

And when you have a redneck conservative police officer, he gotta pull a 11 years old on the ground, put his knee on her back and handcuff her .

mardigras · 08-03-2005, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

kids arent always innocent thats for sure

If she was off somewhere rather than at her home (on her property key here) I would feel different. They should have charged the boys with tresspassing. If they had left it would not have happened. Witness say it wasn't the first time they had come on her property to harass her.

12clicks · 08-03-2005, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

And when you have a redneck conservative police officer, he gotta pull a 11 years old on the ground, put his knee on her back and handcuff her .

hahahahaha, children and their wild imaginations are cute.

BVF · 08-03-2005, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

imagine the lack of intelligence if this is the first time this guy could follow what I said.

When following your fairytales is similar to following the "yellow brick road", who the hell would?

Damian_Maxcash · 08-03-2005, 07:24 AM

The fucking police chopper was the best bit.....

What a fucking joke.

Fletch XXX · 08-03-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

If she was off somewhere rather than at her home (on her property key here) I would feel different. They should have charged the boys with tresspassing. If they had left it would not have happened. Witness say it wasn't the first time they had come on her property to harass her.

huh? i wasnt even speaking about this really... just a comment about kids in general. If anything, the boys harrassing her were not innocent and you are taking my comment the wrong way. If they were harrassing her throw some rocks at the fuckers!

ronaldo · 08-03-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

remember the kid on trial for killing his sister in wrestling move?

whole world felt sorry for him.

let him off, and two years later he was arm robbing stores and killed someone

kids arent always innocent thats for sure

Are you serious?

I remember that case, but don't recall hearing about him robbing stores and killing someone.

mardigras · 08-03-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

If they were harrassing her throw some rocks at the fuckers!

Which is what happened and now they want to imprison her for up to 4 years for feloneous assault with a deadly weapon.

KingK7 · 08-03-2005, 08:33 AM

Haha, the US is such a fucking 3rd world country sometimes.

mardigras · 08-03-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KingK7

Haha, the US is such a fucking 3rd world country sometimes.

You got that right. Violent criminals often get less time than they want to give this child.

BradM · 08-03-2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KingK7

Haha, the US is such a fucking 3rd world country sometimes.

The world is a third world country. We have to learn that eventually... nothing is as civilized and organized as we wish it was or expect it is.

Fletch XXX · 08-03-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

Are you serious?

I remember that case, but don't recall hearing about him robbing stores and killing someone.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7958900/

i may have him confused with another kid that did the same except ended up shooting the store clerk.

i read an article about ids and criminal behavior awhile back, cant find the url

but yeah the above kid stiomped a little girl to death, and then robbed stores

BradM · 08-03-2005, 08:59 AM

"He added that how you are treated by the police should not depend on whether people have legal documentation to be in this country or not. Everyone should be treated equally under the law."

12clicks · 08-03-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KingK7

Haha, the US is such a fucking 3rd world country sometimes.

yeah, its not like we have bulls run through streets, or allow terrorists to decide who we vote for.

baddog · 08-03-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

Are you serious?

I remember that case, but don't recall hearing about him robbing stores and killing someone.

I think he may have his facts a little skewed. As I recall the kid ended up under house arrest, then held up the pizza delivery guy with a gun when he came to deliver the pizza that was ordered.

Could be a different guy, but don't think so.

baddog · 08-03-2005, 11:55 AM

This story reminds me of a couple stories.

1. One time I was on trial and while the court was in recess I overheard the (female) prosecutor talking to her Asst DA. She was talking about how her 5 year old daughter, in pre-school, had been kissed by another 5 year old boy, and she wanted to go after him for assault. The chick was psycho, and was eventually paid to take an early retirement.

2. Another time I was in court, in Fresno, awaiting trial and was observing the trial of 3 or 4 teenagers that late one night had broken into the municipal swimming pool.

The judge threw the book at them. I remember my daughter and I looking at each other when we heard the sentence, and I knew I had my work cut out for me.

Moral of the story, don't do the crime if you can't do the time in Fresno.

2257-Ben · 08-03-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

You got that right. Violent criminals often get less time than they want to give this child.

Yeah, like the guy in Rhode Island on O'Reilly last night... 3 time convicted sexual assault and only gets 3 years in prison.. Go figure that one out...

baddog · 08-03-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Which is what happened and now they want to imprison her for up to 4 years for feloneous assault with a deadly weapon.

Do you even read your own links?

"Maribel Cuevas (search) was prepared to face a felony trial Wednesday when lawyers reached a deal behind closed doors that allowed her to escape detention and avoid pleading guilty"

""The simple fact is that we have an 11-year-old girl who struck a boy in the head with a jagged-edged, two-pound river rock, that required him to have stitches," Dyer said. "That is a felony, assault with a deadly weapon, and we are very fortunate that that act did not cause a more serious injury, even death."

What exactly do you think should have been done?

QuaWee · 08-03-2005, 12:03 PM

She could of killed him, so what's the problem?

baddog · 08-03-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

You got that right. Violent criminals often get less time than they want to give this child.

Usually you come off as fairly intelligent, so I have to ask you, what makes you think they were ever trying to get her put away for 4 years? What do you think she should have been charged with?

Ever hear the saying, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words (and water balloons) will never hurt me?"

It was assault with a deadly weapon, luckily it was just stitches that resulted.

wdsguy · 08-03-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

This story reminds me of a couple stories.

1. One time I was on trial and while the court was in recess I overheard the (female) prosecutor talking to her Asst DA. She was talking about how her 5 year old daughter, in pre-school, had been kissed by another 5 year old boy, and she wanted to go after him for assault. The chick was psycho, and was eventually paid to take an early retirement.

2. Another time I was in court, in Fresno, awaiting trial and was observing the trial of 3 or 4 teenagers that late one night had broken into the municipal swimming pool.

The judge threw the book at them. I remember my daughter and I looking at each other when we heard the sentence, and I knew I had my work cut out for me.

Moral of the story, don't do the crime if you can't do the time in Fresno.

Atleast the county prisons up north are not as bad as the bakersfield/LA prisons.

baddog · 08-03-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

She could of killed him, so what's the problem?

Precisely

baddog · 08-03-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7958900/

Looks like my memory has not failed me yet

TheJimmy · 08-03-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Hell hath frozen over...12clicks actually said something that makes some sense. Holy shit...

Let me go play the number today.

absolutely true...

sad part is you could change out liberal for merely 'politician' and it would be WAY more accurate...

they're all guilty of enacting lame shit on a fairly regular basis...

TheJimmy · 08-03-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy

Atleast the county prisons up north are not as bad as the bakersfield/LA prisons.

I don't think I'd ever want to test that theory out first off...and secondly I bet some of the dudes at "The Q" - San Quentine - don't feel the same way...

:/

Rich · 08-03-2005, 12:23 PM

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Maribel, who threw a rock and hit one of the boys, was arrested by a Fresno police officer who hand cuffed her as she lie on the ground with his knee on her back. Three police cars responded and a law enforcement helicopter was overhead during the arrest of the young girl. She was taken to juvenile hall where she spent the next 5 days. The charge against her is felony assault with a deadly weapon and her trial is due to start on Wednesday, August 3, 2005.

This is the kind of shit that happens when an entire population watches TV all day and doesn't pay attention to what their government is becoming. This is the kind of shit you'd expect to hear in Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

12clicks · 08-03-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

This is the kind of shit that happens when an entire population watches TV all day and doesn't pay attention to what their government is becoming. This is the kind of shit you'd expect to hear in Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

no different than what goes on in canada except no one gives a shit to report it.

Hollywood Horwitz · 08-03-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

I don't think I'd ever want to test that theory out first off...and secondly I bet some of the dudes at "The Q" - San Quentine - don't feel the same way...

:/

for sure, prison anywhere is not fun,so i hear..

KingK7 · 08-03-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeah, its not like we have bulls run through streets, or allow terrorists to decide who we vote for.

Haha, good point.
I am just living there though, taxes are a tad better than Norway. Not to mention the temperature.

BradM · 08-03-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

no different than what goes on in canada except no one gives a shit to report it.

Name an instance like this that has happened in Canada.
Right, you can't. But call me an idiot and add a "

" to make your dry routine complete.

baddog · 08-03-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Name an instance like this that has happened in Canada.
Right, you can't. But call me an idiot and add a "

" to make your dry routine complete.

If they don't report it, it would be pretty tough to talk about it. But if you expect me to believe that Canada has never charged a minor with a felony you have a tough job ahead of you.

Rich · 08-03-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

no different than what goes on in canada except no one gives a shit to report it.

oh yeah, cops take down small children all the time here! I can't remember how many times my 7 year old daughter has been pinned down and cuffed for throwing a rock at bullies. Almost every day. 12dicks, you must be a real genius in your own mind.

Sly · 08-03-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Name an instance like this that has happened in Canada.
Right, you can't. But call me an idiot and add a "

" to make your dry routine complete.

Read what you quoted again, then read your response.

I agree with 12clicks. This country is constantly pushing for more and more legislation. When something goes wrong with that legislation, we push for even more legislation.

I was talking to my dad a couple weeks ago and he said something that made a lot of sense to me, though I don't expect many of you to agree with it. Legislation cannot and does not control people or push them in any direction of "doing good". Religion, albeit misguided and just plain crazy at times, does control people and generally points them towards "doing good".

BradM · 08-03-2005, 01:27 PM

The muzzle of a gun will influence people I guarantee it. Let's get it over with and go National Socialist.

WarChild · 08-03-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

oh yeah, cops take down small children all the time here! I can't remember how many times my 7 year old daughter has been pinned down and cuffed for throwing a rock at bullies. Almost every day. 12dicks, you must be a real genius in your own mind.

No of course nothing bad ever happens in Canada or else I'm sure you and Directfiesta would be all over reporting it, just like you do for US news.

Great example, too. If your child has never been the vivtim of excessive force by Police in Canada, then Police in Canada simply don't ever use excessive force against children!

RCMP Apology - NB Excessive Use of Force - Better Late than Never On or around April 8, 2001, the RCMP in New Bruinswick apologized to local residents of an Arcadian community for using excessive force during a protest in Saint-Savier, NB in 1997. It was reporterd that at that time, RCMP officers in riot gear used tear gas and dogs to attack a group of children and adults who were involved in a peaceful protes against the closeure of their community schools.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill...ality2001.html

Sly · 08-03-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

oh yeah, cops take down small children all the time here! I can't remember how many times my 7 year old daughter has been pinned down and cuffed for throwing a rock at bullies. Almost every day. 12dicks, you must be a real genius in your own mind.

Holy shit, you're right. Just last week my 10 year old brother was beaten by the police dispatcher. Why? Because the real police were too busy beating up the 12 year olds!

America! America! Home of the beaten children!

Michael O · 08-03-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeah, its not like we have bulls run through streets, or allow terrorists to decide who we vote for.

Idiot your facts straight.
It was because the goverment lied about who was behind the bombings, they came out saying it was ETA cause they know it would decide a close election.
When it was a apparent that that the goverment deliberately had lied the Spanish people voted the liers out of office.
Something your country and my own could learn from.

WarChild · 08-03-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Idiot your facts straight.
It was because the goverment lied about who was behind the bombings, they came out saying it was ETA cause they know it would decide a close election.
When it was a apparent that that the goverment deliberately had lied the Spanish people voted the liers out of office.
Something your country could learn from.

You can say that over and over again and it still won't be true.

Just admit it, Allah decided your elections, not you.

CDSmith · 08-03-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

CA seeks felony conviction of 11 year old girl who threw rock at boy harassing her

Trial begins today.

I know one thing....

the little shit (who got hit with the rock) will think twice about harrassing other kids from now on. :D

x3guide · 08-03-2005, 02:23 PM

So who thinks the media is only looking at one side of this story so far? *raises hand (and farts - unrelated)*

wjxxx · 08-03-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Spanish people voted the liers out of office.

And they voted for worse liers. Zapatero is such a fucktard

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	This story reminds me of a couple stories. 1. One time I was on trial and while the court was in recess I overheard the (female) prosecutor talking to her Asst DA. She was talking about how her 5 year old daughter, in pre-school, had been kissed by another 5 year old boy, and she wanted to go after him for assault. The chick was psycho, and was eventually paid to take an early retirement. 2. Another time I was in court, in Fresno, awaiting trial and was observing the trial of 3 or 4 teenagers that late one night had broken into the municipal swimming pool. The judge threw the book at them. I remember my daughter and I looking at each other when we heard the sentence, and I knew I had my work cut out for me. Moral of the story, don't do the crime if you can't do the time in Fresno.

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