Free Speech Coalition Plaintiffs Remain Optimistic After Hearing - GoFuckYourself.com

Xenophage · 08-03-2005, 06:46 PM

This is really a great read !!!

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=235788

boneprone · 08-03-2005, 06:49 PM

Long read. But it seems to be in line with what we are hoping for.

boneprone · 08-03-2005, 06:51 PM

Here's the conclusion if anyone is intrested..

""The hearing today went as well or better than we expected," stated Jeffrey Douglas at the conclusion of the day's proceedings. "The issues that we needed to argue before the court were laid out persuasively and passionately. We went into the hearing optimistic that secondary producer requirements, unlawful as they are, would be enjoined, and nothing that occurred in the hearing lessens our optimism. We felt that we had a substantial but smaller chance of having the entire regulatory scheme enjoined. Courts always want to be as conservative as possible when it comes to enjoining a federal regulation, and the judge engaged in appropriate inquiry with our attorneys as to whether or not injunction of the entire scheme were required. We continue to be hopeful that we'll prevail in obtaining an injunction to the entirety of the regulations, and we await the judge's ruling with anticipation."

boneprone · 08-03-2005, 06:51 PM

It is good news. But still in scarry water.

Xenophage · 08-03-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

It is good news. But still in scarry water.

Yup but its interesting none the less

boneprone · 08-03-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Yup but its interesting none the less

Yeah it is..

And its refreshing to see things lean towards us thus far with this.

I hope it keeps up.

pornguy · 08-03-2005, 06:57 PM

It is good news, but it is like swimming in the pacific with a group of great white sharks around you, and you are using a freshly cut open deer carcas as a floatation device.

boneprone · 08-03-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

It is good news, but it is like swimming in the pacific with a group of great white sharks around you, and you are using a freshly cut open deer carcas as a floatation device.

I feel better now.

Matt M · 08-03-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

It is good news, but it is like swimming in the pacific with a group of great white sharks around you, and you are using a freshly cut open deer carcas as a floatation device.

Well maybe not THAT BAD.... but I get your point...

$pikes · 08-03-2005, 07:04 PM

XLNT!

dopeman · 08-03-2005, 07:14 PM

great article. i just hope it's not painting too positive of a spin on it.

RichC · 08-03-2005, 07:26 PM

good read

Rochard · 08-03-2005, 08:15 PM

I liked this part:

"If the primary producer gets the records, complies with the statute and the regulations and the secondary producer who isn't involved with the performance duplicates or whatever, he would be subject to punishment because he failed to comply with the required regulations even though no minor was involved; am I correct?" the judge pressed.

Shows the judge is paying attention and is trying to fully understand the implications of this law.

tony286 · 08-03-2005, 08:16 PM

very good read looks positive so far

Hornydog4cooter · 08-03-2005, 08:17 PM

Yeah i did not like how the first deal went down. But this one sounds like its gonna be a lot better.

AaronM · 08-03-2005, 08:25 PM

Somebody has pulled out the BIG guns.

"For one thing, the array of legal talent at the plaintiffs' table was impressive. Besides Cambria and his associate Roger Wilcox, the FSC team included lead counsel H. Louis Sirkin and his associate Jennifer Kinsley, plus Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, who had won Sundance Associates v. Reno, the victory over the "secondary producer" concept in the first set of regulations that went into effect in 1995.

Even more legal talent was seated nearby: FSC board chair Jeffrey Douglas, FSC board member Reed Lee, and the oft-quoted legal expert on the adult Internet, Greg Piccionelli."

IMHO...Their efforts are worth every penny I've paid and donated to them over the years...And then some.

Xenophage · 08-09-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Somebody has pulled out the BIG guns.

"For one thing, the array of legal talent at the plaintiffs' table was impressive. Besides Cambria and his associate Roger Wilcox, the FSC team included lead counsel H. Louis Sirkin and his associate Jennifer Kinsley, plus Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, who had won Sundance Associates v. Reno, the victory over the "secondary producer" concept in the first set of regulations that went into effect in 1995.

Even more legal talent was seated nearby: FSC board chair Jeffrey Douglas, FSC board member Reed Lee, and the oft-quoted legal expert on the adult Internet, Greg Piccionelli."

IMHO...Their efforts are worth every penny I've paid and donated to them over the years...And then some.

Yup a great effort

davecummings · 08-09-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Somebody has pulled out the BIG guns.

"For one thing, the array of legal talent at the plaintiffs' table was impressive. Besides Cambria and his associate Roger Wilcox, the FSC team included lead counsel H. Louis Sirkin and his associate Jennifer Kinsley, plus Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, who had won Sundance Associates v. Reno, the victory over the "secondary producer" concept in the first set of regulations that went into effect in 1995.

Even more legal talent was seated nearby: FSC board chair Jeffrey Douglas, FSC board member Reed Lee, and the oft-quoted legal expert on the adult Internet, Greg Piccionelli."

IMHO...Their efforts are worth every penny I've paid and donated to them over the years...And then some.

These attorneys are the VERY best of the best, and I feel like my neck is not sticking out quite so far as it was when I was first asked to be an individual plaintiff. Even in our non-strategy sessions, these folks were 100% focused on fully defending the ENTIRE Adult Industry against the revised 2257 regulations. We are indeed fortunate to have this team looking out for ALL of us!

Dave

GotGauge · 08-09-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Somebody has pulled out the BIG guns.

"For one thing, the array of legal talent at the plaintiffs' table was impressive. Besides Cambria and his associate Roger Wilcox, the FSC team included lead counsel H. Louis Sirkin and his associate Jennifer Kinsley, plus Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, who had won Sundance Associates v. Reno, the victory over the "secondary producer" concept in the first set of regulations that went into effect in 1995.

Even more legal talent was seated nearby: FSC board chair Jeffrey Douglas, FSC board member Reed Lee, and the oft-quoted legal expert on the adult Internet, Greg Piccionelli."

IMHO...Their efforts are worth every penny I've paid and donated to them over the years...And then some.

Wow, glad to hear this!
I am thinking of sending them another nice donation.

Elli · 08-09-2005, 06:45 PM

I was very impressed when they read off the list of lawyers in their employ at the FSC meeting in San Diego. It's good to see they're giving it their all. This is no half-assed effort.

RogerV · 08-09-2005, 07:38 PM

we fly the FSC button at the bottom of all our sites

http://www.bangmypooper.com/

08-03-2005, 06:46 PM	#1
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Free Speech Coalition Plaintiffs Remain Optimistic After Hearing This is really a great read !!! http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=235788

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Long read. But it seems to be in line with what we are hoping for. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

08-03-2005, 06:51 PM	#3
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Here's the conclusion if anyone is intrested.. ""The hearing today went as well or better than we expected," stated Jeffrey Douglas at the conclusion of the day's proceedings. "The issues that we needed to argue before the court were laid out persuasively and passionately. We went into the hearing optimistic that secondary producer requirements, unlawful as they are, would be enjoined, and nothing that occurred in the hearing lessens our optimism. We felt that we had a substantial but smaller chance of having the entire regulatory scheme enjoined. Courts always want to be as conservative as possible when it comes to enjoining a federal regulation, and the judge engaged in appropriate inquiry with our attorneys as to whether or not injunction of the entire scheme were required. We continue to be hopeful that we'll prevail in obtaining an injunction to the entirety of the regulations, and we await the judge's ruling with anticipation." __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	It is good news. But still in scarry water. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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dopeman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 294	great article. i just hope it's not painting too positive of a spin on it.

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,704	I liked this part: "If the primary producer gets the records, complies with the statute and the regulations and the secondary producer who isn't involved with the performance duplicates or whatever, he would be subject to punishment because he failed to comply with the required regulations even though no minor was involved; am I correct?" the judge pressed. Shows the judge is paying attention and is trying to fully understand the implications of this law. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

08-03-2005, 08:16 PM	#14
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	very good read looks positive so far

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Hornydog4cooter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,859	Yeah i did not like how the first deal went down. But this one sounds like its gonna be a lot better.

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AaronM GFY Royality ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,917	Somebody has pulled out the BIG guns. "For one thing, the array of legal talent at the plaintiffs' table was impressive. Besides Cambria and his associate Roger Wilcox, the FSC team included lead counsel H. Louis Sirkin and his associate Jennifer Kinsley, plus Arthur Schwartz and Michael Gross, who had won Sundance Associates v. Reno, the victory over the "secondary producer" concept in the first set of regulations that went into effect in 1995. Even more legal talent was seated nearby: FSC board chair Jeffrey Douglas, FSC board member Reed Lee, and the oft-quoted legal expert on the adult Internet, Greg Piccionelli." IMHO...Their efforts are worth every penny I've paid and donated to them over the years...And then some.

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Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I was very impressed when they read off the list of lawyers in their employ at the FSC meeting in San Diego. It's good to see they're giving it their all. This is no half-assed effort. __________________ email: [email protected]

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