San Diego seeks to use eminent domain ruling to sieze 50 year old business for condos - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 08-02-2005, 10:59 PM

I expect to hear more cases like this

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164548,00.html

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The Alsco Laundry in San Diego's Little Italy neighborhood has been cleaning linens for the city's top hotels and restaurants for more than 50 years.

"We have a set of plans that were provided by CLB Partners, a development corporation here in San Diego, for development of townhouses, condominiums for sale," Scacco said.

The city wants to move out the laundry service to make way for the project, which also includes retail stores. But with 150 employees on its payroll and service to 3,000 area businesses, Scacco said the company doesn't want to move.

"With the requirements that we have in our business, with the water requirements, the size of the building, there are very, very few, from what I understand at this point, sites that could accomodate us anywhere in San Diego County," he said.

But San Diego officials have designated this area of the city as "blighted," and according to the law the city has the authority to use its eminent domain powers for what supporters say is the good of the community.

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At least one legislator is trying to stop it.

After the U.S. Supreme Court upheld certain powers of eminent domain, State Sen. Tom McClintock introduced a bill that would prevent California cities from taking property from one private owner and giving it to another.

"There is nothing that rankles the American soul more than an abuse of power that creates an injustice and that's what the U.S. Supreme Court has now unleashed," McClintock told FOX News.

"There is no right to steal somebody else's property for personal gain. That is not a right that is recognized in any civilized society and we ought not to recognize it in ours," he added.

Sosa · 08-02-2005, 11:02 PM

sounds like what some of the college towns here are doing. They are either paying these small business a low ball amount to move out, or they end up just kicking them out and adding onto the the school property and space.

mardigras · 08-02-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

sounds like what some of the college towns here are doing. They are either paying these small business a low ball amount to move out, or they end up just kicking them out and adding onto the the school property and space.

That's bad enough, but at least in that case they can try to argue the schools societal benefit. This case is clearly the abuse people have been afraid of about taking one private property and giving it to another private owner.

tristan_D · 08-02-2005, 11:25 PM

the constitution really grants the government such power to seize any private property. kinda unfair.

nofx · 08-02-2005, 11:26 PM

fucked up shit

i would let them do it and then burn down the place after they finish building it.

>;]

xclusive · 08-02-2005, 11:27 PM

total bullshit this is going ot lead to some ruby ridge kind of shit

mardigras · 08-02-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

total bullshit this is going ot lead to some ruby ridge kind of shit

Unfortunately, maybe it should

pornguy · 08-02-2005, 11:29 PM

I remember a long time ago, my aunt lived in Orlando, and Disney started buying all the property. She had a small lot, and they offered her 50k in 1974 I think it was. She took it of course. the funny thing is, that Disney had make 100k times that back.

You would think that people would do things the right way.

bringer · 08-02-2005, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tristan_D

the constitution really grants the government such power to seize any private property. kinda unfair.

for "public" use. until the recent ruling that meant schools and parks only. now anyone with money can take your property as long as they build something larger that will create more property tax revenue. basicly, they'll steal your ocean front two story house and build a 5 story apartment building and pay you what their appraisers value your property to be.

basschick · 08-02-2005, 11:31 PM

i guess this would seem slightly reasonable if there was ANY reason to believe that the city planning commissions knew anything about what really was good for a neighborhood. usually they don't know jack.

this taking people's businesses and homes isn't new... my friend rick's parents were forced to sell their house to the city so the city could put in a freeway, and then they re-routed the freeway, so that now the house is still there, but someone else owns it.

bringer · 08-02-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

You would think that people would do things the right way.

why do it the right way when you can do it the cheap way and use the local police as muscle?

JJ Gold · 08-02-2005, 11:32 PM

It has been going on in SD for years. My friends liquor store near Petco Park was taken by the government to make room for a hotel.

detoxed · 08-02-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

sounds like what some of the college towns here are doing. They are either paying these small business a low ball amount to move out, or they end up just kicking them out and adding onto the the school property and space.

they do not kick anyone out without paying market value, you can appeal market value im pretty sure and get an arbitrator

bringer · 08-02-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

they do not kick anyone out without paying market value, you can appeal market value im pretty sure and get an arbitrator

thats true. you can fork over $800-1000+ for a private appraisal and then pay a lawyer to take those findings to the court to contest it.

wtfent · 08-02-2005, 11:51 PM

As a business man. I think its fair. Have you seen those buildings, their ugly. We have to grow sometime. Would be nice if they could help them find a good place though. Its just life.

mardigras · 08-03-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wtfent

As a business man. I think its fair. Have you seen those buildings, their ugly. We have to grow sometime. Would be nice if they could help them find a good place though. Its just life.

May Walmart end up with your property

DTK · 08-03-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

I expect to hear more cases like this

Yep, definitely... That was a colossal fuckup (or sellout, depending on how you want to look at it) by the supreme court.

Hustlin Entertainment · 08-03-2005, 12:22 AM

fucked up

mardigras · 08-03-2005, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Yep, definitely... That was a colossal fuckup (or sellout, depending on how you want to look at it) by the supreme court.

I'm hoping it was just a fuckup and every state corrects it by passing their own legislation.

Quickdraw · 08-04-2005, 10:17 AM

Another one in Florida

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opi...news-editorial

DeanCapture · 08-04-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nofx

fucked up shit

i would let them do it and then burn down the place after they finish building it.

>;]

Quickdraw · 08-04-2005, 10:27 AM

Oops, that is 2 in Florida. One last month and another this month. The city says the Supreme Court gave them the power.

DTK · 08-04-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

I'm hoping it was just a fuckup and every state corrects it by passing their own legislation.

That's a hell of alot to wish for imho.... even if that hope were to come true, the federal govt has repeatedly shown an utter disregard for state-level legislation

mardigras · 08-04-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

That's a hell of alot to wish for imho.... even if that hope were to come true, the federal govt has repeatedly shown an utter disregard for state-level legislation

Alabama's governor just signed legislation today and New Jersey, Mississippi and Ohio are 3 states I am aware of that have things in the works. Hopefully those will pass and other states will follow.

dready · 08-04-2005, 03:38 PM

Isn't the role of gov't to protect private property? I'm sorry but US is going to hell in a handbasket fast.

BradM · 08-04-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dready

Isn't the role of gov't to protect private property? I'm sorry but US is going to hell in a handbasket fast.

The federal government is here to collect taxes and vote to send it's young to war.

tony286 · 08-04-2005, 04:02 PM

its fucking scary

bbe · 08-04-2005, 07:11 PM

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