With all due respect iBill newbie, it is not the old iBill that is the issue. It is the current iBill. Not the employees that are thrown to the fire. I am talking about Jason Galanis and his crew, AJ and his crew and the IBD group. The principle owners and shareholders that ruined the company. They are all weaved together. Do you think there was a reason IBD moved in long before they became the "new management"? They are just the suckers that originally agreed to do the reverse merger with PHSL and Jason. They lost their asses on the deal and are stuck. The trail all goes back to Jason. iBill, IBD, XTV, Penthouse International etc. End of story. The old iBill are the people that build the company over many years. People like Cathy and the old sales reps being blasted developed the business and relationships over many years and are the ones hurt (although not as hurt as their clients who lost money and in some cases their business) but still hurt as many people in this business will associate them with the asswipes that destroyed iBill.

I am not trying to proove anything, I offered to help you make a deal with ibill. if you are realy owed money why would you turn that down? Does calling names raise your IQ?

People working at ibill have no idea??? Thats bull

you avoid the questions to you - yet you demand answers - typical ibill mentality

fuck off - my lawyer is monitoring the situation and it will be handled that way - as we've already taken a look at your companies offers and they are not acceptable - the only solution that we will accept: SHOW ME THE MONEY

your trying to defend this so hard only because your either an employee or an owner (which one are you???)

ivet, I agree with you except for IBD, I agree they were suckers for making the deal but at least they didnt walk away, they are trying. I also agree bashing the old employees dosnt help, but it does smack the employees in the face that stayed and are trying to turn the ship around. All I am saying is that if you are going to bash the people that still work there why not bash Kathy and Segpay? I dont think any ex or curent employees diserve the bashing and the new guys were not even there.

This started by me saying if you are owed money give Andrew a call, he helped me.

wait Tango, "offers" earlier you said they never answered your emails now you have many offers?

I think theres gonna be violence this year at the Internext...

I'm done wasting my time with somone who only asks questions and doesn't answer any. My lawyer is dealing with it - if you feel that I liable your company - then sue me - I'd gladly sit in a court for this one.

For the record - your company made 1 offer and that offer was rejected. We emailed your company and only 1 email out of 9 emails was ever returned.

My company? IBD is a public company with 1,000's of shareholders.

First, I wouldn't bash Cathy or any ex-employee that tried to do the right thing. I am sure it was difficult for people that had spent many years of hard work at iBill. But neither were in the group of owners or principles that made real decisions. Second, the employees that choose to stay need to be prepared to take the heat. You work for a company that hurt a lot of people and owes a lot of money. Not saying it is your fault but it is your choice to stay. You should be aware of who really controls the company. As far a IBD not walking away...NONE of the group that has controlling interest walked away (Jason, AJ/Granite or IBD.) They will suck every penny out of that company for as long as they possibly can. Sell the database, spam the database, promote XTV to clients customers, push rebills through GKard (the same rebills that clients asked for their data back from iBill) and the list goes on. Who really owns GKard? The only people that walked away were the employees that wouldn't let their reputation be completely tarnished by the disaster in progress. Really sad to see.

public company with thousands of stockholders
then

SHOW ME THE MONEY
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ivet, jason and aj are gone, havnt been seen in months, as far as IBD sucking out cash they are the ones puting up the money that has been used to pay off webmasters. If Ibd shuts it down how will anyone ever get paid?

Tango, again, give Andrew an email with account #? company name?

SHOW ME THE MONEY
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SHOW ME THE MONEY
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SHOW ME THE MONEY
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SHOW ME THE MONEY
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SHOW ME THE MONEY
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Don't confuse not being seen and not having interest or control...My 2 cents...

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Iball's spent many, many years fucking up its reputation . It used to be the largest and now its less than nothing. It will never grow to any viable size again due mainly to the history of lies dishonesty and outright theft that it applied daily in its dealings with webmasters.

The new staff who are now blaming the old staff is a cop out and an indication of how anyone re joining Iball's will be treated.

Think about this, any future problem no matter what they may be, can and will be blamed on the previous management and staff. These new people have already started to put the blame on SMEGPAY ( a company that most intelligent people will stay well clear of anyway )

Iballsfan read the posts listen to webmasters and never ever post your crap here again until you can say without hesitation that all past debts have been paid and you will no longer blackmail webmasters into sending you sign-ups.

My sincere advice to all present Iball's staff is to get out now before your reputation is destroyed in the same way as the previous employees of this shit hole company.

mid april huh? would ibillfan be Todd Gravelle? you don't know half the shit that went down at iBill if you only got there in april. ibill was mismanaged over the years. the shit started hitting the fan back in the intercept days and the granite and galanis team stuck in the final fork. i wouldn't expect you to know your facts if you only got there in april. what is your background todd? apparently, you don't know shit about the adult industry thinking ibill has a solid product to sell and are going to bounce right back in the game. focus on your own problems. passing the buck to cathy just makes you look like an even bigger joke to everyone in the biz. all the real players in this game know cathy was the fallguy here.

Bullshit! The "facts" are Beardsley was involved with IBill for years - including the time she felt able to stand as President while Gallanis and Co played games. Now we have the "new IBill" in the form of Segpay, with Beardsley involved again - another plan that was already in place while Gallanis/friends/shareholders bullshitted their way thru Ibill.

"Good Ibill staff"? Who the hell were they? All IBill staff I ever knew of comprised a combination of utter incompetence, lies and bullshit and rarely were able to rectify anything that resembled a problem. If old email archives have not been deleted - try checking em and see what instructions the management gave to staff to lie to clients.

When exactly are IBill/Segpay or whoever going to pay their debts and without passing the buck on to banks and hell knows who else? Guess no time soon since banks have the common sense not to trust incompetents.

BTW.. Where is asshole Jason and his Mexican sidekick and all the other hangers on? Any in a jail cell yet?

PS.. I have nada interest whatsoever in "attacking" Beardsley - she made her own judgements and obviously she will be contaminated whether she likes it or not. She may be a "nice person", but mud sticks.

To The New Ibill Pay The Webmasters!