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mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

No they are not exempt from evolution, just like they are not exempt from neuroligical disorders.

The neuroligical disorders of parkinsons, palsy and alzheimers haven't been cured... perhaps homosexualiy gets cured with those? Can we get to be Jerry's kids too?

jonesy · 08-01-2005, 02:11 AM

you go girl

Myst · 08-01-2005, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

The neuroligical disorders of parkinsons, palsy and alzheimers haven't been cured... perhaps homosexualiy gets cured with those? Can we get to be Jerry's kids too?

people tend to argue or assume that because they enjoy being gay, that is not a disorder, theres nothing wrong with them.

but a person with schizophrenia may enjoy the little friends in his/her head, does that mean that person does not have a disorder?

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

homosexuals cannot have children

LOL, I know more than one homosexual with kids. They were trying to "conform" until they came to their senses.

Centurion · 08-01-2005, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

homosexuals cannot have children, and youd expect that if homosexuality was caused by a single gene, it would have gone away long long ago.

much more likely homosexuality is the result of a complex of many many many genes that produce several substances in the brain. once its discovered how these things interact, im sure homosexuality will be in the same category as a person with schizophrenia.. just a neuological disorder that can be cured

And I'm sure some day they'll find a "cure" for the porno gene, and then we'll all be out of work. Happy with that scenario too?

Grief..it's hysterical that some of you are pushing so hard for a CURE to homosexuality when the only people that really seem to have any true problems with it are HETEROSEXUAL.

Put your energies into the REALLY BIG issues that face this planet.

emthree · 08-01-2005, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

There are too many clueless statements in your post to actually merit any serious response.

Yet you responded, just to say that?
You're trying too hard to be a smartass.

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

see above reply
sickle cell is jsut a problem in hemoglobin with the replacement of ONE single dna nucleotide.. homosexuality is likely caused by a ton of factors

So, do you say that any heterosexual man here can be converted by tinkering with his hemoglobins, or does it always take a 6-pack+

Dagwolf · 08-01-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Left-handedness is "an aberration from the norm" in "a purely statistical sense", did you have a point?

Of course! I wanted to clarify that I was not using the word aberration in a derogatory sense; it does carry negative connotations when used outside of statistics. But you knew that, didn't you?

Centurion · 08-01-2005, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by emthree

Yet you responded, just to say that?
You're trying too hard to be a smartass.

You didn't get any serious response..your ridiculous statments fall on their face by themselves.

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

people tend to argue or assume that because they enjoy being gay, that is not a disorder, theres nothing wrong with them.

Who the fuck ever said I enjoy being gay? I simply am who I am. I enjoy my life, but I take it as it comes.

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Of course! I wanted to clarify that I was not using the word aberration in a derogatory sense; it does carry negative connotations when used outside of statistics. But you knew that, didn't you?

Well, I wanted to put it in perspective with all the fodder in this thread

Myst · 08-01-2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

And I'm sure some day they'll find a "cure" for the porno gene, and then we'll all be out of work. Happy with that scenario too?

Grief..it's hysterical that some of you are pushing so hard for a CURE to homosexuality when the only people that really seem to have any true problems with it are HETEROSEXUAL.

Put your energies into the REALLY BIG issues that face this planet.

just because i think its a disorder doesnt mean i think everyone should be heterosexual
schizophrenia is a diorder, but some schizos enjoy their friends in their head and dont want them to disappear, so what?

im just saying that homosexuality is not normal, its likely a neorological problem
im also saying that there will be a cure for it in time, but that doesnt mean that the cure should be used by everyone, just like the schizos

emthree · 08-01-2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

And I'm sure some day they'll find a "cure" for the porno gene, and then we'll all be out of work. Happy with that scenario too?

Grief..it's hysterical that some of you are pushing so hard for a CURE to homosexuality when the only people that really seem to have any true problems with it are HETEROSEXUAL.

Put your energies into the REALLY BIG issues that face this planet.

What were you saying again, about clueless statements?

I dont think any of us really give a shit if it's "cured" or not, we're just "saying". There's a bigger picture, all we can do speculate and question things based on the little we have and know.

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

And I'm sure some day they'll find a "cure" for the porno gene, and then we'll all be out of work. Happy with that scenario too?

Grief..it's hysterical that some of you are pushing so hard for a CURE to homosexuality when the only people that really seem to have any true problems with it are HETEROSEXUAL.

Put your energies into the REALLY BIG issues that face this planet.

I like you

Want a boyfriend?

Myst · 08-01-2005, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

So, do you say that any heterosexual man here can be converted by tinkering with his hemoglobins, or does it always take a 6-pack+

that made no sense
hemoglobin is what is affected by sickle cell anemia

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

that made no sense
hemoglobin is what is affected by sickle cell anemia

And my experience has been that the difference between a "straight" man and a gay curious one is often a few drinks

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Myst

just because i think its a disorder doesnt mean i think everyone should be heterosexual
schizophrenia is a diorder, but some schizos enjoy their friends in their head and dont want them to disappear, so what?

I enjoy my neocon friends... I think it's all in their heads but I don't want them to disappear either.

emthree · 08-01-2005, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

You didn't get any serious response..your ridiculous statments fall on their face by themselves.

I go cry now.

WarChild · 08-01-2005, 04:45 AM

For me being straight is not "who I am". That is to say, my sexuality and personality are mutually exclusive.

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 11:28 AM

Stupid Breeders

Regards,

Lee

Centurion · 08-01-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

I like you

Want a boyfriend?

Let's talk about it..over drinks..at my place..

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 01:04 PM

you all just love to take the bait and some of you use it to show what complete and utter biggoted fucks you are..

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

you all just love to take the bait and some of you use it to show what complete and utter biggoted fucks you are..

Dont blame them hon, they cant help it if they are stupid

Regards,

Lee

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Dont blame them hon, they cant help it if they are stupid

Regards,

Lee

must be a disorder

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

must be a disorder

Must be, im sure a pill will be invented for it shortly

Regards,

Lee

Myst · 08-01-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

must be a disorder

Heres some quotes from a nice psychology paper

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In the last several years, a welter of new research has begun to point strongly to a developing fetus' intrauterine environment as a possible incubator of gayness. This new line of research has been scattered broadly across the peer-reviewed journals that collectively make up science's bazaar of evidence and ideas. But it all started with a little-understood birth-order peculiarity long observed among adult gay men: They tended to be little brothers, frequently in a household full of older boys.
"When I first encountered these early studies, I thought they were so preposterous that I dismissed them out of hand," said Ray Blanchard, a psychologist at the University of Toronto's Department of Psychiatry. "It struck me as the most bizarre example of pseudoscience."

Later, "by accident," Blanchard said, he happened upon evidence in his work that there might be something to this anecdotal oddity. He began scouring dozens of databases containing data on both birth order and sexual orientation. By the late 1990s, he had established one of the strongest associations with homosexuality in the field.
For a male child, Blanchard found, the more older brothers in his family, the higher the probability that he would be gay. A firstborn male has a likelihood of homosexuality of about 2%. But for a boy with four older brothers, those odds jump to 6%, Blanchard found. In all, he estimated, one in seven gay men owed his sexual orientation to this "fraternal birth order" effect.

In the last several years, a welter of new research has begun to point strongly to a developing fetus' intrauterine environment as a possible incubator of gayness. This new line of research has been scattered broadly across the peer-reviewed journals that collectively make up science's bazaar of evidence and ideas. But it all started with a little-understood birth-order peculiarity long observed among adult gay men: They tended to be little brothers, frequently in a household full of older boys.
"When I first encountered these early studies, I thought they were so preposterous that I dismissed them out of hand," said Ray Blanchard, a psychologist at the University of Toronto's Department of Psychiatry. "It struck me as the most bizarre example of pseudoscience."
Later, "by accident," Blanchard said, he happened upon evidence in his work that there might be something to this anecdotal oddity. He began scouring dozens of databases containing data on both birth order and sexual orientation. By the late 1990s, he had established one of the strongest associations with homosexuality in the field.
For a male child, Blanchard found, the more older brothers in his family, the higher the probability that he would be gay. A firstborn male has a likelihood of homosexuality of about 2%. But for a boy with four older brothers, those odds jump to 6%, Blanchard found. In all, he estimated, one in seven gay men owed his sexual orientation to this "fraternal birth order" effect.

Oh how youll be eating your words in 10 years when more research comes out. Are these scientists and psychologists bigoted fucks too?

Please

digi · 08-01-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

you all just love to take the bait and some of you use it to show what complete and utter biggoted fucks you are..

sorry but you probably made the dumbest post in this whole thread.

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

Let's talk about it..over drinks..at my place..

It's a date

WWC-DonMike · 08-01-2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

For me being straight is not "who I am". That is to say, my sexuality and personality are mutually exclusive.

In all seriousness, and with all respect and senserity, being straight is who you are and colors many of the things that you do.

Not all of these may apply, but take a moment to think about them. They are not meant to be an attack on any straight person, just things that WarChild's statement made me wonder about how our sexualities do affect other parts of us.

When you go out and you are dressing up to impress, are you trying to impress people of both genders? Or do you really try to look good for the ladies?

If you were going to the movies and you had a choice of a romatic comedy featuring a male/female couple or a male/male couple, which would you choose?

Ever have a night out with "the guys" so you can talk about the women in your lives? How would that differ if some of "the guys" there were talking about the men in thier lives?

Some people say that two men holding hands in public or one giving the other a peck on the cheek is "flaunting" their sexuality. Ever do that with your heterosexual partner? Are you then flauting your sexuality?

If you got an invitation to a gay or lesbian commitment ceremony would you think it was a gay couple pushing their lifestyle on you? Would you think you were pushing your lifestyle on a family friend or relative when you send invitations to a wedding or engagement party?

Again, I mean no offense, just wanted to give people something to think about.

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by digi

sorry but you probably made the dumbest post in this whole thread.

how so? Unless you put yourself in the bigoted grouping I don't see what your problem would be with me pointing out that some people are indeed just that. Not only that but are so easily wound up that it becomes a game for the very people they claim to be annoyed by.

WarChild · 08-01-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WWC-DonMike

In all seriousness, and with all respect and senserity, being straight is who you are and colors many of the things that you do.

Not all of these may apply, but take a moment to think about them. They are not meant to be an attack on any straight person, just things that WarChild's statement made me wonder about how our sexualities do affect other parts of us.

Well certainly it colors the things I do, but it's not the core of who I am. I'll answer your following questions as honestly as I can.

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When you go out and you are dressing up to impress, are you trying to impress people of both genders? Or do you really try to look good for the ladies?

For me, personally, I dress to be comfortable in clothes I like. I could honestly care less who I was impressing. Anyone who knows me probably realizes I put very little effort in to this department. That being said, many people are not like me in that respect.

I submit though, that regardless of who you're dressing to impress, the underlying act is in fact dressing to impress its self. That is, the same person would probably dress to impress others of their chosen sexual preference, regardless of if they were gay or not.

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If you were going to the movies and you had a choice of a romatic comedy featuring a male/female couple or a male/male couple, which would you choose?

I fucking hate romantic comedy. If that were not the case, I'd most likely chose a male/female couple as it's a situation I could at least relate to. I can't relate to a homosexual relationship, for obvious reasons.

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Ever have a night out with "the guys" so you can talk about the women in your lives? How would that differ if some of "the guys" there were talking about the men in thier lives?

Of course I have, I think most people have. Again though, the underlying act is talking with "the guys" about the men/women in your lives. It's the same act regardless of what the subject might be. Do you think women sitting around talking about men is all that much different from men sitting around talking about women? The language may vary but the themes are a constant.

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Some people say that two men holding hands in public or one giving the other a peck on the cheek is "flaunting" their sexuality. Ever do that with your heterosexual partner? Are you then flauting your sexuality?

While some might say that, I would not. I know a lot of gay people, mostly met through a long term relationship with a girl that's in live theatre (Les Mis, Phantom, etc). I never considered gay couples interacting in a way that a straight couple might as flaunting their sexuality.

Interestingly enough though, I think acting like a flaming queer is absolutely retarded. I mean, they weren't born with that stupid fucking lisp. That's in your face gay and it's a repulsive as in your face straight (read homophobic).

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If you got an invitation to a gay or lesbian commitment ceremony would you think it was a gay couple pushing their lifestyle on you? Would you think you were pushing your lifestyle on a family friend or relative when you send invitations to a wedding or engagement party?

Personally I wouldn't think anything was being pushed on me. Again, pushing your lifestyle on me is not inviting me to a function that I can choose to attend or not.

Using the theatre as a point of refference again, if I've met 100 male dancers, all but 1 of them were gay. I can remember specifically a cast of 8 or so gay male dancers pressuring the 1 straight guy with shit like "How do you know you don't like it if you haven't tried it?". Now that's pushing your lifestyle on someone and actually led to one of them having a fat lip. It took that to shut him up finally.

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Again, I mean no offense, just wanted to give people something to think about.

None taken.

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

Heres some quotes from a nice psychology paper

Oh how youll be eating your words in 10 years when more research comes out. Are these scientists and psychologists bigoted fucks too?

Please

and some papers once said electric shock was the way to cure these disorders..or a good dose of god.

I do find this a bit entertaining because while I know Lee is intentionally going over the top it is is the type of 'attack' non-straight people take all the time and yet people fail to see that is what is being demonstrated.

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

and some papers once said electric shock was the way to cure these disorders..or a good dose of god.

I do find this a bit entertaining because while I know Lee is intentionally going over the top it is is the type of 'attack' non-straight people take all the time and yet people fail to see that is what is being demonstrated.

Hey..

Stop giving away the ending before the rest of GFY has seen the movie

Regards,

Lee

WarChild · 08-01-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

and some papers once said electric shock was the way to cure these disorders..or a good dose of god.

I do find this a bit entertaining because while I know Lee is intentionally going over the top it is is the type of 'attack' non-straight people take all the time and yet people fail to see that is what is being demonstrated.

You give Lee far too much credit. He's really not that smart.

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Hey..

Stop giving away the ending before the rest of GFY has seen the movie

Regards,

Lee

don't worry..reading comprehension isn't a top skill here

Holly Lez! · 08-01-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst

people tend to argue or assume that because they enjoy being gay, that is not a disorder, theres nothing wrong with them.

but a person with schizophrenia may enjoy the little friends in his/her head, does that mean that person does not have a disorder?

LMAO, I think being a homophobic fuck is more of a disorder when will someone cure that?

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

You give Lee far too much credit. He's really not that smart.

Lee and Serge..two masters

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

don't worry..reading comprehension isn't a top skill here

True enough

Nor is common sense it would seem

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

Lee and Serge..two masters

Nah, i could never be put on the same level as Serge, you really do humble me though

Regards,

Lee

WarChild · 08-01-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

Lee and Serge..two masters

Serge yes. Lee not so much.

This thread was a failure. On post #14 I brought it to life. It really had little to do with Lee.

mardigras · 08-01-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Hey..

Stop giving away the ending before the rest of GFY has seen the movie

Heh, the ones who would really benefit from a discussion such as this likely didn't make it past the first few posts on the first page

European Lee · 08-01-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Heh, the ones who would really benefit from a discussion such as this likely didn't make it past the first few posts on the first page

True enough although it entertained the rest of us non the less

You also cant complain about a 3 day old thread lasting on the front page of GFY, thats almost unheard of unless its a 'contest'

Regards,

Lee

WarChild · 08-01-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

True enough although it entertained the rest of us non the less

You also cant complain about a 3 day old thread lasting on the front page of GFY, thats almost unheard of unless its a 'contest'

Regards,

Lee

As I said, that has little to do with you. After post 14, this thread was about me and not you.

WWC-DonMike · 08-01-2005, 03:50 PM

I'm just proud of the fact that while handling a subject that can be very touchy in this neck of the woods there were a few really thought provoking posts and the fact that I got to interact with people whom I may differ in opinion with yet still met on a common ground, even when we may have disagreed.

And WarChild, a few comments on your post. The lisping femme guys have as much to offer the world as anybody else does, but I understand where the hostility comes from. It's sort of like the beer guzzling male stereotype who football games painted in his team colors wearing silly wigs and burps and farts all over the place. He may not be the representation of all straight males, but you can't deny that he does exist. And he may very well be the guy who drives your kids to school or builds your homes, a valuable part of society, but someone you may think twice about inviting to your house to dinner.

And as far as the one straight guy who was being hassled by the gay dancers. While I don't condone violence, some boarders should not be crossed. I wouldn't want a straight guy telling me I need to try pussy, so why would I tell a straight guy he needs to try cock? LOL! People who pull shit like that just piss me off, no matter what side of the fence they are on.

Centurion · 08-01-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Direct Holly

LMAO, I think being a homophobic fuck is more of a disorder when will someone cure that?

Being forced to watch all 5 seasons of Queer as Folk might do it.

Sarah_Jayne · 08-01-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

Being forced to watch all 5 seasons of Queer as Folk might do it.

indeed...watch the original British version instead!

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