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You can easily add me to your ignore list should my comments annoy you that much.
WG

jojojo - I am free when you are

I'm trying to illistrate a point dont be so fucking anal retentive.

All you have to do is keep adding links occasionally change the ads around now and then which u do naturally.

I am still waiting to learn what I didn't already know...

I had already put myself in the top 10.. and now I am #1 on almost every keyword I wanted... But I did it all without anything from you...

Perhaps you can show me the whitehat now?

only people who have top ten rankings who are posting here are the ones bashing me because they dont want me teaching people and creating comptetion for them.

"You are selling information that is freely available, or available for a tiny fraction of the cost"

ignorant shit like this pisses me off. If it so free, if its so cheap then why the hell doesn't everyone have top ten listings wiseguy??

Get fucking real... same arguement could be said for this industry in general... WHY ISNT EVERYONE MAKING $25,000/mth as affiliates I mean there is enough fucking resources, info, and help around to choke a horse???

There are subtleties to everything in this biz. Learn what to avoid, what to do, tips, tricks, practical attack plans for a network etc etc plus support.

Most people have tried the SEO route on their own and failed.

A lot of big program owners don't know anything about seo either. $900 is a laughable drop in the bucket for them. They could have their main employee etc be taught and let him run with it.

Real simple. If you don't have top ten rankings now, I can teach you how. The money you make will far surpass $900.

Yeah we covered black hat - hit me up anytime u are ready for whitehat.

Im not - I just hate it when guys like you try to tell YOUR potential customers that they dont have to update a site, ever - when its not true, and they really do have to.. That is what you said "no updates"

If you have to lie to sell your product, then you really should'nt

adding fresh links and occasionally updating ads is sufficient.

Fuck this place is full of haters and retards.

I would not have said anything, but when you said: "#2 SE sites do not have to be updated with fresh content ever." I have to react, because its to far from being correct that I can just let it pass.

It is stuff like that, people hold on to, and start to belive in no time. It fucks it up for the rest of us when we talk to our clients.

some of the other stuff you said (only some) is in the grayzone, but im not commenting on that - thats your own bussiness.

Im not a hater, I really dont care about you or your sites, I just dont want people to go around and make SEO out to something its not - end of story

WE'VE FOUND A BLACKHATTER FOLKS! LOL. :)

Matt

Last time you were shilling this shit YOU didn't have top 10 listings. Yet you sell the info for $1000. Do you have top 10 listings on competitive keywords yet? I'm not talking about someone elses site that already has their own backlinks, etc. etc. I mean one of YOUR sites that YOU control and built from the ground up.

Yes, he has done that; I do confirm he does and has within top 10.

Matt

mj hit me up

Its sounds very inetersting.
To bad that i have very bad english :(

*cough haters and retards* see what I mean - at least you look stupid now for making shit up. Where do these people come from lol wtf. Trolls I guess... perhaps you can't follow links but I've posted so many lol in fact if you would have read the whole thread you would see some on um the first post lol O_O :helpme

What language do you speak... I suppose I could do this thru a translator :)

Sweet. LOL

Matt

Well, you could be considered a post-whore for signature views, but you have no ads; yet. :)

Matt

I think someone deserves to be 'sandbagged' if they don't look at or touch their site for 2 years. :)

Matt

yeah, no shit lol

:D exactly

Hit me up people while I am still offering this...

So information older than 2 years is not impotant to you? -- good thing that books are still made then :pimp

W T F are you talking about lol O_O

english only please. :1orglaugh

I dont believe any of them is correct. Owh well they are but not for #1 positions.

??????????? W T F

Why do I get all the most retarded comments in my threads???

Do you not know how to click a link and read text on a page - cuz if you were able to you would see these sites in top 10 :upsidedow :upsidedow

"I have personally achieved many top ten spots for clients over the years - here are some current rankings to look at:"

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead before you post please

BTW Dalai -- you might want to fix the spelling mistakes and the missing words from your sig O_o

here's what it SHOULD say

Jojojo, Im not trying to show any disrespect here, just wondering if you are giving out your linking structure for sites like www.joggs.com ( #1 google "Big tits Movies")

And ebus it is possible to obtain rankings with little to no fresh content, however the SE algorithms are going to be undergoing a new wave of changes soon enough that basically eliminates manipulation

( We started with internal ie: onpage, this was quickly manipulated and we we're given external ie: offpage / link popularity&anchor text becoming dominant factors, this is now what SEO's manipulate and how JoJoJo is obtaining his rankings if you analyze his sites/external linking structures)

I won't go into details but if you follow SEO you will realize the next wave of SE changes is focused at ending the manipulation ie: user experience/feedback, link maturity, clickthroughs, changes in concept / linking structure over time, etc... etc...

My question for you JoJoJo is do you intend to show users how you truely obtain your rankings, I highly doubt it no matter your come back as its basically suicide to your income in this field

lol I guess he hasn't read your reply yet Sperminator :)

GFY rule 340 Section 4, Paragraph C clearly states:

"All posting/replying is forbidden with grammatical and spelling errors in your signature"

:1orglaugh

I teach everything I know about seo and how I go about acheiveing rankings for what WORKS TODAY...

I understand the SE's are always changing their methods... and the SEO's change along with them.. I always have found a way to get top spots and I always will.

If and when another major algorythm shift comes along I will adapt then show my clients how to do the same.

Also some SE's are smarter than others ;)

BTW who are you?

I would love to see what you have to say, but dont have cash right now. I have it all tied up. Maybe next time.

np - hit me up when you liquid.

you're :winkwink:

This is good business ethic to keep your clients up to date as long as your intention is genuine and you truely do plan to update ALL of your clients as shifts take place and you find new unique and innovative approaches

( basically blackhat techniques for the lesser informed, these are the quick bang for you buck approach )

And lets be realistic here, if you are an expert as you claim to be, you realise your external structure for pages like www.joggs.com will not hold up for too much longer, not to mention that your sell method for users once they have found your page is not optimized for maximum profit.

All I'm saying is that your approach is nothing new or special, and I highly doubt your going to be keeping these clients up to date as link popularity and linking structures take a back seat to the next generation of SEO, your complete method is free available info with little to none innovation or uniqueness in the SEO world... in fact it took me less than 5 minutes to analyze all your backlinks, anchor text, density percentages, all your anchor text, theme of all these backlinks, how you quickly build your backlinks etc...

*edit: It is not my intention to sabotage your business, I am just offering constructive criticism that when answered will probably result in alot of skeptical people becoming more interested in your service

When the poster has to attempt to prove himself so much, you know it's BS to begin with.

I am trying to pick apart this guys intentions, with honest and full answers his credibility will become much better..

This deserves a new thread almost, and this is not a personal attack JoJoJo... Im trying to help your clients/future clients and at the same time it will grow your client base if you can take this as constructive criticism..

I dont want to see misinformed or mislead people be disappointed in the end..

First of all yes it is my intention to keep my clients informed of the latest techniques that are working.

Next - I teach whitehat and blackhat people can work on whatever they want once they have the info.

Next - as far as joggs.com goes - they are a client of mine so they are the ones deciding how to sell the surfer once they reach their page. Right now things are working very nicely. If and when this shift happens I will adapt to it.

Next - I never said my techniques were new or special and I know all the information I teach is readily available out there if you spend the time to go read it all, extrapolate the good parts, then do all the trial and error. However most of the people I have taught have already gone this route and still dont have anything to show for it. The other people who didnt have a clue would rather pay someone $1k and get a huge running start + a game plan + support.

Next - If you are not trying to sabotage my business and be negative then why would you say "I highly doubt your going to be keeping these clients up to date" ??

I also want to add that this sky is falling and old techniques will no longer work is purely speculation right now and it also doesnt mean that all the SE's will be adapting this method... ;) current climate is very similar to this - some SE's claim to do what otehr smarter SE's do but the reailty is they dont and the algoryhtm is not too bright at all ;)

This is not true, when the poster DOES proove himself, thats when you will know its legit, for every 10 clients he has, theres 100 that will wait to see proof or until questions like mine are answered.

I just answered them.

Yeah lol wtf - all SEO threads I know people want proof so I provide it...

there are CURRENT TOP TEN results posted in this thread along with comments from clients saying "yes he has had and still does have top reuslts" also "there is no denying his seo skills" blah blah

emthree - If you arent a troll then you are just someone who is ignorant and doesnt take the time to read the entire post before adding your negative useless 2 cent commments.

I do SEO for a living, on my own stuff. I make a very good living on it, and it continues to grow every month with residual income.

I guess I'm confused. If you are so good at SEO, why waste your time teaching others? Personally, I could make much more money with my time building my own stuff than charging someone some change for lessons. It also seems like you put a lot of work into your clients.

When people ask me to do work for them, I say no 99% of the time. Why? Because it kills the time I have to build and maintain my own sites. I guess I don't see the value in making a few grand teaching, when you can make much more on your own. Not to mention that most SEO'd sites make great residuals. I have a few bringing in close to 10k a month that I haven't touched in 6 months.

Sorry to see what hapened to Joggs at yahoo. i would be willing to pay some cash for a work around on that.

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Edit: I see the work around. cool.

I am not, just offering a perspective from a more informed person, and with answers to my questions everyone can better understand what it is your offering.

I am not trying to be negative in the least, to defend your business with good answers to real questions will benefit you, and so far you are doing a good job.

My criticism is based around the fact that a knowledgable SEM would not continue to give out his research / experience and what is resulting in his rankings, as more than likely it would result in a pay cut down the line when you really have a method that is longterm and profitable

As for how to learn, I did it by reading and trying things out. Every SEO has a different philosophy and different things work. Sit in a room with one SEO, then move to another with another, and you'll hear many different things. I think people are best off reading the boards (Webmasterworld, SearchEngineWatch, etc), building small sites going after non-competitive terms, watch the SERPs, and build your way up. I learned more from my own sites than I ever did from a colleague or book.

I guess I'm saying that no one person knows everything about SEO. You are better off making connections through boards and shows, and feeding off their knowledge. Some of the best tricks I learned of late was sitting in a titty bar in New Orleans at the last webmasterworld show.

I know many like this :thumbsup

This is my question too, and im formulating my questions to you based around these facts.

When you take on clients in a manner like this and state openly in this thread that it takes 60-90 days, it shows your methods aren't going to stick and result in longterm income, otherwise a smart person would be developing your own and letting the incomes build up over time. It would get to a point where your time that you would spend updating all your clients for new changes and shifts, would be MUCH more valuable if spent on your own SE network

You recently lost alot of listings @ slapass.net, have you identified the factor yet ?

does anyone ever read the entire thread before replying?

I already stated im a lazy person and sold most of my sites a while ago - since then I have been doing mainly consulting which takes up my time and makes me a modest income.

I also said get in on this deal before I get off my ass and get some of my own sites going again and stop offereing this because I won't need to.

Some of the rankings I have acheive for clients have lasted for years. I always keep a long term perspective in mind. If and when what I do doesnt work anymore I will change it so it does.

As far how you learn and different seo's do differetn things blah blah blah - what I do is I teach WHAT WORKS FOR ME... and it works well as you can see from the proven results.

some of the sites can be banned easily..

yes... but most want the quick bucks :(