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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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		 Congrats on that top-10 yahoo listing! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Smart. I guess he's talking to you about me and his business with me, and not me, because he sure didn't tell me of any top-10 listings until I checked. Matt 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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 It's even worse than I figured though.. didn't think it could get worse. He's in BC, so he's definitely still awake. Let me call him and see if he's home, or he's reading this and avoiding it.. but if you're reading this MJ then talk to me soon. Matt 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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		 Crap - sadly I just moved and the contract with his phone number isn't here, so no me calling him. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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 MJ - Jojojo, you're best to contact me and/or post in this thread so people don't start assuming things. Matt 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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	What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets* See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html  | 
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 Makes 0 difference anyways, it never happened either way... and after a weak attempt to boost my google rank with hard link trades he just conveniently disappeared for a long time before resurfacing just a little while back with his yahoo thread. Alot of the trades he had me put in also went dead or redirected so I had to remove some after checking them often enough. Kinda of a shitty thing to do, especially when its a paysite. At the time also a few people were looking for him, since I had a few of them contact me about it and they all said the same thing really..that he seemed overly excited about being paid and somehow needed the money quick, which is also the impression he gave me at the time basically i paid 1000$ and got a few link trades but nothing REAL in terms of being listed for the key words we agreed to in the postions that he stipulated in GOOGLE. He later tried to tell me that I was listed high in yahoo for the same terms and when I checked there was nothing lol. I messaged him back about it and that was the last time I heard from him. He hasn't tried to do anything about it either this whole time, which is pretty much what I expected I guess especially after seeing how he is now taking on a many new clients now for his new yahoo deal. Anyways, for some reason im not worried....things always have a way of evening out with time. You can never know *when* for sure, but they most certainly always do. This is one thing I have learned the hard way In life sometimes, you never know who you are really fucking until the shit is up to your knees hehe I would suggest to you that you burn your money with torch rather than have this idiot try and place you in search engines... at least you would get some satisfaction from it! good luck  | 
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		 So... Is everything cool now?? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 I made the comment as a joke, as I've seen many threads started by Jojojo with his advert to get people the knowledge to achieve top-10 on Yahoo. Don't know him at all, it was just a stray comment that happened to have some actual relevancy, I guess.  | 
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		 Another victim of Jojojo's seo scamming from a year ago.  He took this board for a few k and now he's probably working some other boards. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 he bugged me on ICQ for like 2 months. i finally had to block him. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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