Who Owns Iwantu??? I Need Your Help!!!

[Kristian]

OK, I'm TRYING not to lose my temper. I want someone to HELP me sort out the PROBLEMS with my account. I've emailed my REP and after a WEEK the email I get back does NOT answer my questions.

I'm not naming names.

I'm not publically ranting about all of the problems.

HOWEVER...

ICQ : no answer

EMAIL : SLOW AND UNSATISFACTORY ANSWER.

YOUR FORUM : My Post Gets Deleted.

What else can I do??????

If you own the fucking program or have more authority than a rep, PLEASE would you get in touch???

My account username starts with aavsellers @

Bryan (a genuinely helpful and excellent guy, but who is unable to help because he lacks the authority) will be able to tell you my account user (tiscali @) which is of course also my email address.

Please contact me soon, before I flip. I can't send any more traffic until this is resolved. I am VERY SORRY for posting this on GFY but I've tried every other means first and even in this post I'm not exposing my issues or the parties involved.

Waiting to get some help.

Kristian

[Dalai lama]

I'm positive they will help you soon.

[sacX]

if someone is deleting your posts on the messageboard that sounds like they're telling you to talk to the hand..

maybe losing your temper will get them to pay attention.. ;)

[Hustlin Entertainment]

this desevres a bump what a shithead program

[Hustlin Entertainment]

it is fact, if you send traffic to iwantu not only will they shave you like a gilette, they will also ignore you for a week.

[Worldnet]

Just deleted there ads. No time for bullshit sponsors. They won't last long these days.

[Kristian]

I'm not saying there is anything bad about the program in general. Afterall, I think I'm the only one complaining here. I'm also happy with my earnings per unique. I just think my account is fucked up (a few problems) and good logic and business sense dictates that I can't continue sending traffic until my issues are resolved. I'm not "threatening" to take away my traffic; just saying that I can't send traffic when my account seems a little screwy.

If you own the prog or have authority, please leave your method of contact here and I will be in touch ASAP.

(Thanks also for the bumps guys!)

[chadglni]

I can't send traffic there for different reasons. Good luck to you.

[Kristian]

I should clarify my above comment. I WAS happy with my earnings per unique. Before thus. Certain problems with my account would not make me happy even with a handful of happy pills.

chadglni, cheers!

[adonthenet]

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j/k

[datezonline]

see sig.....

[CyberMax]

we haven't had any problems with them..

[Kristian]

Still awaiting response.

[MickeyG]

Kristian you are a whinny little bitch, everyday you post here like this is their support board or something. Take it to the proper channels and Im sure you'll get a response. I've NEVER had a problem reaching them.

And if anyone has PROOF of them shaving please do tell, I've been promoting Iwantu for years now without a single issue.

[FilthyRob]

Maybe they are on vacation.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

Kristian you are a whinny little bitch, everyday you post here like this is their support board or something. Take it to the proper channels and Im sure you'll get a response. I've NEVER had a problem reaching them.

And if anyone has PROOF of them shaving please do tell, I've been promoting Iwantu for years now without a single issue.

Careful who you lock horns with mate.

I have been trying the appropriate channels for 17 days before making ONE POST on gfy. My icqs are not answered, my forum posts are deleted, and my emails go unanswered. I am NOT accusing them of shaving. There is a problem with payment and also with the stats on my account. It is bad business sense for me to send traffic to a program when my OWN PERSONAL ACCOUNT seems to have problems. As I have said, I am not discrediting the program.

As said, careful who you piss on. I'm "this close" to fucking snapping today. I appreciate this will spur you on all the more to flame and hate. However, please be advised, don't fuck with me today.

[iwantchixx]

Things haven't been so smooth over there for awhile now. I got a friend who is having payment issues with them as well right now. Just swap their ads out for someone else. Try DatingGold or AFF. Nothing speaks louder than a loss of traffic from an affiliate. They do want to keep all their affiliates at any measures (so they say) but they also hum and haw about responding until it's too late.

Maybe you should give them a call? http://www.whois.sc/cashring.com

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Things haven't been so smooth over there for awhile now. I got a friend who is having payment issues with them as well right now. Just swap their ads out for someone else. Try DatingGold or AFF. Nothing speaks louder than a loss of traffic from an affiliate. They do want to keep all their affiliates at any measures (so they say) but they also hum and haw about responding until it's too late.

Maybe you should give them a call? http://www.whois.sc/cashring.com

You're absolutely right and I'm sorry your friend has the same problems. I do ok for money but this can seriously hurt some people. I have a couple of kids and if this was my sole source of income, I'd - and my family- would be screwed, quite literally. I actually switched back to another sponsor first thing this morning and doubt very much I will return.

Thing is, I'm a pretty easy-going guy and I guess I let people get away with murder but enough is enough.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by Kristian

Careful who you lock horns with mate.

I have been trying the appropriate channels for 17 days before making ONE POST on gfy. My icqs are not answered, my forum posts are deleted, and my emails go unanswered. I am NOT accusing them of shaving. There is a problem with payment and also with the stats on my account. It is bad business sense for me to send traffic to a program when my OWN PERSONAL ACCOUNT seems to have problems. As I have said, I am not discrediting the program.

As said, careful who you piss on. I'm "this close" to fucking snapping today. I appreciate this will spur you on all the more to flame and hate. However, please be advised, don't fuck with me today.

I almost fell over in my chair laughing when reading your response. Not only are you an internet tough guy, You sound like one of those affiliates from hell. I wouldn't help you either

[MickeyG]

Im sorry to hear you guys are all having so much troubles, my payment has come on time everytime for the last 3 years. Wtf is going on, i have no idea.

[tungsten]

still no response.. wow

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

I almost fell over in my chair laughing when reading your response. Not only are you an internet tough guy, You sound like one of those affiliates from hell. I wouldn't help you either

MickeyG,

This is my last response to you (allowing you to have the final word) because I honestly think you're a waste of my time (with your current attitude).

1. I'm not discrediting the entire cashring program.

2. I have problems with MY ACCOUNT.

3. After 17 days I have resorted to GFY because I know (HOPE) it will finally get my problems resolved.

4. I have pulled my traffic because my account is not reporting correctly and is, therefore, pointless sending traffic. I have also not been paid.

Internet tough guy. I'm no internet tough guy. I'm just pissed and people like you, antagonising me, do not help at all. I don't - believe it or not - even believe in arguing online. If I ever had a big problem with someone I'd deal with it offline, amicably I hope.

If you cannot see the sense in what I've said, then I'm sorry, but I've tried my best.

EDIT : As far as being an affiliate from hell. I promote close to 60 progs and have never once made a complaint. I simply want to get paid for my work and have my stats report properly.

[Veterans Day]

they are a nightmare to get anything done, I was owed 2k in january, if I remember the months correctly, and didnt see it till march, blaming me for no epass account on file, when in fact it was their rep who put me down for epass payouts. Hilarious company they are.

[IwantU Bryan]

Hey Kristian,

I´m personally checking into your matter i´m sure we will have it solved, and if there´s any other problems for some of you please hit me up on ICQ 519-364 or email me i´m sure everything can be fixed.

[IwantU Bryan]

Originally Posted by Hustlin Entertainment

it is fact, if you send traffic to iwantu not only will they shave you like a gilette, they will also ignore you for a week.

We have never shaved anything concerning our affiliates, I can assure you that, and I?m personally always available to help any of our affiliates out in the best way possible.

[SAM SIYC]

Kristian,

I'm sorry to hear you had some problems, I'm positive Bryan will fix all that very fast.

add me up on icq. If you ever have any more problems, I can be reached on icq and I can make sure you will be contacted very fast. I'm almost always reachable (days/nights/week-ends).

hope everything works out well for you

[Kristian]

Thanks Bryan, I appreciate your help on this, as mentioned yesterday. I hope you have been granted the authority to deal with the problem now.

I look forward to an email and a resolution.

Cheers.

[MickeyG]

I guess people need to realize different countries use different timezones..

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by IwantU SAM

Kristian,

I'm sorry to hear you had some problems, I'm positive Bryan will fix all that very fast.

add me up on icq. If you ever have any more problems, I can be reached on icq and I can make sure you will be contacted very fast. I'm almost always reachable (days/nights/week-ends).

hope everything works out well for you

Thank you for the offer, Sam.

The problem was however not that I could not contact someone, in this case Bryan ( who always made himself available). The problem was that Bryan did not have the authority to look into payments and, after 17 days of emails, a deleted message post, and icq requests, and Bryan trying to get ahold of "the person, I could not have the person who does have authority sort out the problem.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

I guess people need to realize different countries use different timezones..

17 days, 17 days.

I give up with you.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by Kristian

17 days, 17 days.

I give up with you.

still doesnt change the fact you're a whinny little bitch.

[Varius]

Kristian,

I find it funny that you have not tried contacting either myself or Michael (the owner) if you believ our reps "don't have the authority to help you". Our ICQ numbers are easy to find....again, here's mine: 520468.

I have also checked our DB logs and see NO record of any contact form submission by you.

I'm sure whatever your problem is can be quickly resolved. Please note that we are usually not online on GFY though at 3am-4am. I just love how the people with complaints always feel it best to post them when they know we won't be around for a few hours, don't you ?

Anyhow if you ICQ me OR use our contact form, your issue will be solved. You should have done so to begin with and saved a lot of time.

[Varius]

Originally Posted by Hustlin Entertainment

it is fact, if you send traffic to iwantu not only will they shave you like a gilette, they will also ignore you for a week.

It's great to see you have the facts to backup you're post....

[Varius]

Originally Posted by Worldnet

Just deleted there ads. No time for bullshit sponsors. They won't last long these days.

[sarcasm]Yeah, we've been in business for 8+ years now so I expect it to be over any day now [/sarcasm]

[Varius]

Originally Posted by FilthyRob

Maybe they are on vacation.

Actually, some of our staff are. Lara as well as Michael are off in different countries. Bryan, Sam and myself (though not a rep) are all here though

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

still doesnt change the fact you're a whinny little bitch.

First you assume things, calling him names. Then you try to argue for your point and make an ass for yourself by proving that you not only lack common sense, but also reading skills. Then, when he points out the obvious to you, you go back to calling him names. Thanks for the entertainment.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Varius

Kristian,

I find it funny that you have not tried contacting either myself or Michael (the owner) if you believ our reps "don't have the authority to help you". Our ICQ numbers are easy to find....again, here's mine: 520468.

I have also checked our DB logs and see NO record of any contact form submission by you.

I'm sure whatever your problem is can be quickly resolved. Please note that we are usually not online on GFY though at 3am-4am. I just love how the people with complaints always feel it best to post them when they know we won't be around for a few hours, don't you ?

Anyhow if you ICQ me OR use our contact form, your issue will be solved. You should have done so to begin with and saved a lot of time.

Varius,

It is at this point that your job is to discredit the disgruntled affiliate in order to "save face" on a public forum.

I'll put my money where my mouth is. Sue me.

Please, please sue me.

If I've lied in any way then the lawyers can sort it out and I will both lose face and be out of pocket.

Please, feel free. You have my name and address. Sue me.

This is the TRUTH (I personally find it appalling that, aside from treating me poorly, you now call me a liar):

1. I have contacted the ONLY person I could ever get ahold of on icq.

2. 17 days ago I sent a message via your online form. I have sent 4 others in total. I have written copies of all of them.

3. You have DELETED my forum message and request for help.

4. I have NEVER ONCE said your program was shaving. I in fact firmly believe that, aside from support and my own account problems, you have a fine program and a good dating site.

5. I just want to get paid.

6. I want my account to show the correct PPS amounts.

7. I want the other issues mentioned to your reps to be sorted out and clarified.

I have HONESTLY done my best to contact ANYONE who could help me. I have NEVER ONCE bashed anyone or any program. I am NOT doing it now.

It is quite simple.

There is obviously a problem with my account (a scripting problem I think) and I have tried my very best to get it resolved. GFY was my last resort.

However, due to your remarks and your effors to make me look like a liar, I wil not promote you. Be thankful I have been so nice and sensitive.

[MickeyG]

Originally Posted by DamageX

First you assume things, calling him names. Then you try to argue for your point and make an ass for yourself by proving that you not only lack common sense, but also reading skills. Then, when he points out the obvious to you, you go back to calling him names. Thanks for the entertainment.

you have no clue wtf your talking about. He's made several of these threads over the last week and Im tired of seeing his sorry ass complain. Maybe if he could tell time or use Icq he wouldnt have so many problems.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by DamageX

First you assume things, calling him names. Then you try to argue for your point and make an ass for yourself by proving that you not only lack common sense, but also reading skills. Then, when he points out the obvious to you, you go back to calling him names. Thanks for the entertainment.

Thanks for your support dude but you wont talk sense to him. He's either here to troll, got a screw lose, or out to anger me and therefore discredit what I am saying. Personally, I go with the latter. As soon as we take over the world, there wont be people like him in it!

[2XY]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

you have no clue wtf your talking about. He's made several of these threads over the last week and Im tired of seeing his sorry ass complain. Maybe if he could tell time or use Icq he wouldnt have so many problems.

Here'a a thought..perhaps you could ignore his threads? That would save you from getting annoyed with him.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Kristian

Thanks for your support dude but you wont talk sense to him. He's either here to troll, got a screw lose, or out to anger me and therefore discredit what I am saying. Personally, I go with the latter. As soon as we take over the world, there wont be people like him in it!

Hmmm, I don't know, would that REALLY be such a good idea? Not having someone to make an ass out of himself in public would make for a very dull every day life...

[SAM SIYC]

Kristian,

waiting for you to add me up on icq !

contact me, we'll fix everything.....let's not push a small misunderstanding to a bigger scale ......

[Varius]

Originally Posted by Kristian

Varius,

It is at this point that your job is to discredit the disgruntled affiliate in order to "save face" on a public forum.

I'll put my money where my mouth is. Sue me.

Please, please sue me.

If I've lied in any way then the lawyers can sort it out and I will both lose face and be out of pocket.

Please, feel free. You have my name and address. Sue me.

This is the TRUTH (I personally find it appalling that, aside from treating me poorly, you now call me a liar):

1. I have contacted the ONLY person I could ever get ahold of on icq.

2. 17 days ago I sent a message via your online form. I have sent 4 others in total. I have written copies of all of them.

3. You have DELETED my forum message and request for help.

4. I have NEVER ONCE said your program was shaving. I in fact firmly believe that, aside from support and my own account problems, you have a fine program and a good dating site.

5. I just want to get paid.

6. I want my account to show the correct PPS amounts.

7. I want the other issues mentioned to your reps to be sorted out and clarified.

I have HONESTLY done my best to contact ANYONE who could help me. I have NEVER ONCE bashed anyone or any program. I am NOT doing it now.

It is quite simple.

There is obviously a problem with my account (a scripting problem I think) and I have tried my very best to get it resolved. GFY was my last resort.

However, due to your remarks and your effors to make me look like a liar, I wil not promote you. Be thankful I have been so nice and sensitive.

First of all, why woudl we sue you? That makes no sense...as well, where exactly have I called you a liar? Please show me. As well, I don't see me mentioning anywhere in my post that you said we shaved (that was someone else, who I replied to with a different post).

1) I am on ICQ almost all the time, so it would be hard to not be able to get ahold of me.

2) I will re-verify, but as I receive copies of all these submissions, I don't recall seeing it unless you used a different email/name.

3) In our forum, the admin will only delete posts they find that break the rules (post personal info, racist, etc...). It's possible they deleted it by accident, but that wouldn't happen 4 times. Are you sure they didn't contact you with a reason for deleting it ?

4) I never said that you said we shave...??

5) If you let me know what your problem is, we can make sure you get paid properly right away.

6) If there is a problem in stats, we will fix it asap, as we always do.

7) I have happened to see you post your affiliate issues with us on GFY on more than one occasion, always at an hour when none of us would be around. ..I'm sure Bryan can give you all our ICQ numbers, that way you will always be able to reach SOMEONE.

Now, I will re-iterate that I am not an account rep. However, I do have the power to help you, if you choose to contact me (still waiting, I'm on ICQ if you like...). I am not sure where you see two things here (calling you a liar and saying you said we shave), but please point them out to me

[Varius]

Kristian,

I have spoken with Bryan about your account, and he has told me that the issue is with how/when we payout?

The weekly system works 2 periods behind (as it always has).

Thus, in your payments, when you see a row for 07/07, that is the date it will be issued. It covers the period of 06/13/2005 - 06/19/2005 (plus any carryover from the previous weeks if you hadn't reached your minimum).

When you see "status" as Pending, that means the issue hasn't occurred yet. When you see "Issued", it means it has.

If you have not received a payment that is marked as Issued, then it is a problem we need to resolve. According to Bryan though, this wasn't your issue.

I won't go into any other specifics here (as I"m sure you dont want details shared), but if you ICQ me we can probably resolve this in 2 minutes.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Varius

First of all, why woudl we sue you? That makes no sense...as well, where exactly have I called you a liar? Please show me. As well, I don't see me mentioning anywhere in my post that you said we shaved (that was someone else, who I replied to with a different post).

1) I am on ICQ almost all the time, so it would be hard to not be able to get ahold of me.

2) I will re-verify, but as I receive copies of all these submissions, I don't recall seeing it unless you used a different email/name.

3) In our forum, the admin will only delete posts they find that break the rules (post personal info, racist, etc...). It's possible they deleted it by accident, but that wouldn't happen 4 times. Are you sure they didn't contact you with a reason for deleting it ?

4) I never said that you said we shave...??

5) If you let me know what your problem is, we can make sure you get paid properly right away.

6) If there is a problem in stats, we will fix it asap, as we always do.

7) I have happened to see you post your affiliate issues with us on GFY on more than one occasion, always at an hour when none of us would be around. ..I'm sure Bryan can give you all our ICQ numbers, that way you will always be able to reach SOMEONE.

Now, I will re-iterate that I am not an account rep. However, I do have the power to help you, if you choose to contact me (still waiting, I'm on ICQ if you like...). I am not sure where you see two things here (calling you a liar and saying you said we shave), but please point them out to me

Varius,

This is my last post to you here. Life is too short and I have work to do. I believe Lara receieved my last email, so you surely have sufficient info to rectify the situation. I will not listen further to you trying to save face here by discrediting me and acting so "aw shucks" helpful. You are on a mission to save face because my public cry for help has brought out some negative publicity from the ranks of gfy. None of this would have happend or "my other post" had you answered my request for help 17 days ago.

Originally Posted by Varius

First of all, why would we sue you?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Varius

where exactly have I called you a liar? Please show me.

You clevely do not openly call me a liar, instead you imply it here :

Originally Posted by Varius

I find it funny that you have not tried contacting either myself or Michael (the owner) if you believ our reps "don't have the authority to help you". Our ICQ numbers are easy to find....again, here's mine: 520468.

I have also checked our DB logs and see NO record of any contact form submission by you.

To conclude, the fact that you find any of this funny is aweful. I do not find anything funny about an honest man (me) who works hard for his family, only to not be paid, and have to practically beg to get someone to look at his ineptly functioning account. As mentioned, GFY was a last resort, and what a WONDERFUL resort it is! GFY and other forums are a fantastic tool because they actually regulate our industry, in many ways. The truth always comes out on a forum. Your responses here to my last ditch attempt at support prove this theory - no sponsor wishes to look poorly on a forum, therefore it regulates their behavior to usuall be honest and offer good support.

My LAST WORD:

I truly think the problems are isolated to my account. Lara and Bryan both have all the details. I have tried to get someone to help without any success (as Bryan will attest). Obviously, posting on GFY has had the desired affect . . . I now have hald a DOZEN reps scrambling to give me ICQ #s to sort my problem.

Anyone reading this, make your own conclusions. I'm honest, I don't usually make a fuss (im british after all lol), and this was all I could think to do to get some support.

I'm off to watch tennis re-runs.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Varius

Kristian,

I have spoken with Bryan about your account, and he has told me that the issue is with how/when we payout?

The weekly system works 2 periods behind (as it always has).

Thus, in your payments, when you see a row for 07/07, that is the date it will be issued. It covers the period of 06/13/2005 - 06/19/2005 (plus any carryover from the previous weeks if you hadn't reached your minimum).

When you see "status" as Pending, that means the issue hasn't occurred yet. When you see "Issued", it means it has.

If you have not received a payment that is marked as Issued, then it is a problem we need to resolve. According to Bryan though, this wasn't your issue.

I won't go into any other specifics here (as I"m sure you dont want details shared), but if you ICQ me we can probably resolve this in 2 minutes.

OK, now this IS my last word.

That is not the problem so you are confused. I believe lara has received my last email, so please refer to that, sort the problem, and email me back. I was quite specific in my email, so you have all the sailient points.

I've done all I can now. You have ALL the info in written form, the problems still exist, so please just sort it for me.

I'll look forward to a resolution and your email.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Varius

Kristian,

I find it funny that you have not tried contacting either myself or Michael (the owner) if you believ our reps "don't have the authority to help you". Our ICQ numbers are easy to find....again, here's mine: 520468.

I have also checked our DB logs and see NO record of any contact form submission by you.

I'm sure whatever your problem is can be quickly resolved. Please note that we are usually not online on GFY though at 3am-4am. I just love how the people with complaints always feel it best to post them when they know we won't be around for a few hours, don't you ?

Anyhow if you ICQ me OR use our contact form, your issue will be solved. You should have done so to begin with and saved a lot of time.

If I read a remark like this from ANY affilate or program I belonged to, or was thinking about, problems on my end or not, I would immediately cancel them.

This is unprofessional.

If I were a program owner, I would fault on the side of the affiliate, and just resolve the issue. He had said numerous times he was not slamming the program, and had the one of the sincerest responses I've seen on GFY when trying to resolve an issue compared to some of the demand, and smear tactics of others.

Then IWU comes in and low balls him? Definately not professional. So what, he did not e-mail everyone in the company. He said he followed whatever channels, and that should be good enough.

You people need to learn a bit of tact, as affiliates are ultimately your customers too.

[Varius]

Originally Posted by Kristian

OK, now this IS my last word.

That is not the problem so you are confused. I believe lara has received my last email, so please refer to that, sort the problem, and email me back. I was quite specific in my email, so you have all the sailient points.

I've done all I can now. You have ALL the info in written form, the problems still exist, so please just sort it for me.

I'll look forward to a resolution and your email.

Please check your mail. I have found the email sent to Lara with your issues, and have resolved them all

[Varius]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

If I read a remark like this from ANY affilate or program I belonged to, or was thinking about, problems on my end or not, I would immediately cancel them.

This is unprofessional.

If I were a program owner, I would fault on the side of the affiliate, and just resolve the issue. He had said numerous times he was not slamming the program, and had the one of the sincerest responses I've seen on GFY when trying to resolve an issue compared to some of the demand, and smear tactics of others.

Then IWU comes in and low balls him? Definately not professional. So what, he did not e-mail everyone in the company. He said he followed whatever channels, and that should be good enough.

You people need to learn a bit of tact, as affiliates are ultimately your customers too.

This was not a personal attack against Kristian, but the fact of the matter is, he has more than once opened threads about his problems with us on GFY (which isn't a problem), but at times when no one could be expected to be around. It is then bumped with such phrases as "hello, still waiting for replies!" or "no support to be found!", etc.....Which give us a bad image, all the while with our team being asleep!

I am hoping that by pointing this out (although you found it unprofessional, other did not..it's all a matter of interpretation), in the future he would post at a more appropriate time or contact me directly. That was it. As usual on GFY though it has snowballed out of control

In any case, I have found and replied to his issues via email, so hopefully all is well again

[Barefootsies]

Fair enough.

I honestly don't keep a score card on folks at the GFY as to who does what, and so on with all of it. So if there is a track record of this behavior, I can understand your position in resolution.

My apologies for coming off a bit harsh, sounds like you are on da case.