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  • BradM
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 3397

    #1

    A quite serious SEO thread (no tits inside just money)

    I have a query I have been pondering for awhile. We all get google images traffic, and obviously we can't do anything but anti hotlink it, and put some domain name on it trying to entice typins. The problem is that we lose so much traffic doing this it is insane.

    I have rewritten .jpg to be php based, so I could insert SQL queries into it to log hits. Does google have a way to read if we are doing this? To the browser and to the surfer it is an image, but I can execute commands using php.

    Here's my point. Would it be possible to detect what is reading the file (google or a browser) and then use a refresh to send the surfer to a site? Or would this be a perfect little way to get sandboxed? Anyone tried, or want to try this?
  • WiredGuy
    Pounding Googlebot
    • Aug 2002
    • 34517

    #2
    I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image.
    WG
    I play with Google.

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    • kosta
      So Fucking Banned
      • Mar 2002
      • 441

      #3
      yeah

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      • BradM
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2003
        • 3397

        #4
        Originally posted by WiredGuy
        I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image.
        WG
        Right, it's basically image cloaking. My question was if google can detect this on an image or not. If it can actually read the format of the image or not.

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        • kosta
          So Fucking Banned
          • Mar 2002
          • 441

          #5
          there actually is a way to send image traffic to your url of choice

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          • elitegirls
            Confirmed User
            • May 2005
            • 962

            #6
            hm i guess it can be detected.. you can detect if html is run over php (mod_rewrite). so i think it's possible with images/.jpgs too!

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            • bawdy
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 1424

              #7
              dont think u r going to be able to do this via php anyway

              the browser is expecting a jpg and not header info sent from the php script so will probably just display it as a broken image

              you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url

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              • SmokeyTheBear
                ►SouthOfHeaven
                • Jun 2004
                • 28609

                #8
                as far as i can tell google doesnt ban sites from google images traffic ( unless its manual ) infact , sites that are banned from the google index , usually do quite well in google images ( i.e. aren't banned )

                That doesn't mean they might not list an image if your cloaking.
                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                • iwantchixx
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 12860

                  #9
                  why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.

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                  • SmokeyTheBear
                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 28609

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bawdy
                    you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url
                    <a href="http://www.yoursite.com" style="BACKGROUND: url(javascript: var r = document.referrer; if( r.indexOf('google')>-1 || r.indexOf('ask.')>-1 || r.indexOf('search.yahoo')>-1 || r.indexOf('excite')>-1 || r.indexOf('altavista')>-1 || r.indexOf('msn')>-1 || r.indexOf('netscape')>-1 || r.indexOf('aol')>-1 || r.indexOf('hotbot')>-1 || r.indexOf('goto')>-1 || r.indexOf('infoseek')>-1 || r.indexOf('mamma')>-1 || r.indexOf('alltheweb')>-1 || r.indexOf('lycos')>-1 || r.indexOf('lycos')>-1 || r.indexOf('search.com')>-1 || r.indexOf('metacrawler.com')>-1 || r.indexOf('dogpile')>-1 || r.indexOf('stb')>-1 ) { top.location.replace('http://www.yoursite.com/index.php?site='+escape(document.location)+'&ref=' +escape(document.referrer));})">link</a>
                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                    • SmokeyTheBear
                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 28609

                      #11
                      Originally posted by iwantchixx
                      why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.
                      some sponsors don't accept traffic that comes from within a frame ( google images )

                      I know realitycash didn't use to allow it, if you clicked on a realitycash banner from within a google images frame , your ref code would be replaced with the default nats code ( i.e. you get no credit )
                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                      • NickJ
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 325

                        #12
                        Clever thinking

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