Originally Posted by European Lee

Ill also be out $550.

As i have stated above, we do our charitable donations at the end of the year.

Im not paying a red cent for the shit you tried to palm off on me, to you or, to a charity.

It really is as simple as that.

I notice you havent provided proof of a date when you sent that new preview i found as yet, here is your chance to admit you screwed up by not sending me it.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by Tempest

Just pay the damn money already. You've been fucking OWNED!! So pay up or go away because there's no way you can weasel out and save face here.

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

lol lee has an unlimited supply of stupidity, look at him trying to invent a new excuse just for this thread :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by European Lee

As i have stated numerous times before, not a chance in hell :thumbsup

I really dont care if its for 'charity' or not, we do our tax write-offs at the end of the year, alway have, always will.

Originally Posted by European Lee

Andrew, im not 'inventing' a new excuse at all.

The quality of the work you showed us, was shit, as agreed with by a lot of GFY'ers.

Why you had to start yet another thread on the subject i dont know.

Just to clarify for you..

1) The quality of the work you provided was shit.
2) We dont pay for shit.
3) You'll not see a red cent of that $550.
4) No charity will see a red cent of that $500.
5) Feel free to start however many more threads you want on this topic.

Bottom line here? You arent getting paid for the work.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by badmunchkin

You're a tool, always have been, always will be...

If you contract a designer, you pay them. No matter what.

Regards,
:321GFY

Originally Posted by European Lee

Cool, so if you go to a deisgner, tell them that you willpay $1000 for a paysite design, they use MS Paint to do the 'design' wrk, you'll pay them? No matter what?

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

Ok Lee answer this simple question - it's a true or false, and try not to lie:


Did you describe the design as 'perfect' and 'done' in early 2004?

True or False?

Originally Posted by European Lee

No.

I beleive you posted that i said '3 is the one we like', 'I think once thats done we're good to go on the splash page', 'other than that i think we are done', 'one thing that does need to be changed is the mustard color in the main header now other that its perfect' (the mustard color, incidently, is still there :1orglaugh), 'then its just making a button and banner for recips and we;re done'.

Nowehere in those emails that you posted to i say anything about the site being 'perfect and done'.

I do on seperate lines / emails but never in any one email.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by European Lee

Cool, so if you go to a deisgner, tell them that you willpay $1000 for a paysite design, they use MS Paint to do the 'design' wrk, you'll pay them? No matter what?

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by aflex

$500 or respect.. hmm..

Originally Posted by European Lee

$550, please get your facts straight :winkwink:

Again, as i have posted numerous times before, i really dont value the opinion of GFY'ers.

Whether they 'respect' me or not, im not here to make 'buddies' im here to do business and, business is good :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

stealing isn't a business, it's a crime

Originally Posted by European Lee

Good stuff now we are getting somewhere.

http://www.fbi.gov - Go report me.

You can also call the local police Dept. in Daytona Beach, you have my address so you know where to tell them to find me :thumbsup

Issue over.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by European Lee

Good stuff now we are getting somewhere.

http://www.fbi.gov - Go report me.

You can also call the local police Dept. in Daytona Beach, you have my address so you know where to tell them to find me :thumbsup

Issue over.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by aflex

$550 is nothing if your business is doing so well. 131 votes to your 10. cut your losses, admit the mistake and move on. BDS isn't exactly asking for cash to be sent to them, they want it to goto charity, which would be a tax writeoff for you or your company. i dont think you are a very good businessman, lee.

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I am not debating that he deserves is money, and I do commend him for his patience on this whole issue. why Lee isnt doing anything I feel is that he knows something that few on GFY dont - the adult world does not revolve around this board.

Someone can post something negative about you on this board, and if you dont respond to it, then chances are as Lee knows - it wont have an impact on your business as much as most of gfy'ers would like to think. I hate to make this wake up call, but many are either non industry people or those that are keyboard warriors that dont have an impact on the adult world as a whole - and surprisingly to some - many actually make a living and survive for years without even posting on GFY. I speak to hundreds of webmasters a month that never even heard of this board much less the drama that comes down here.

Lets face it - Lee's main source of income is from the gay community - few of which visit this board, many of whom dont really pay much attention to the drama on here.

If it is truly owed then I want to see Blue get their money - but sadly and honestly - it is not going to come from posting on one board that is viewed mostly by who dont have anything to do with the gay industry at all. So how is this going to bother? much less force lee to do anything about it?

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

lee got another vote.,. or maybe it was another mistake.. who knows

so when can we stop all this drama & get the payment cleared up lee?

surely you must have something better to do with your life than carry on like an idiot generating new excuses of why you're not going to pay?

Originally Posted by European Lee

Dude, this is GFY.

When are you going to understand that? :1orglaugh

I only post here when i have nothing else to do, really, all this BS isnt doing anything to our business ventures, keep posting, im not the one wasting my time... You are :1orglaugh

If you can point to a single thread or post i have started since being registered on GFY that didnt bait someone in to 'fake' drama or getting a rise out of someone, id love to see it.

Perhaps when you dont find such a thread, you'll begin to see the light :1orglaugh

Again, it isnt ME wasting my time here.. Its YOU.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

I am posting and getting so many new clients out of this it's not funny. Well it kinda is actually.

Originally Posted by brand0n

becouse lien cheating scammers dont pay debts.

Originally Posted by European Lee

As the truth about this whole issue emerges....

I beleive when you started the initial threads however long ago it was, that was what i put it down to on Oprano, nice to see i was right :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by European Lee

http://www.hookedonphonics.com

Might be of some use to you bud :winkwink:

Hows your feonsay btw, still fucking pigs for fun?

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Unless you have a brother named Jeb who is the Governor of Florida that can pull out this landslide vote against you, I would say that it's time to pay up, and now, Lee.

Otherwise, you have zero credibility, and are of little use here at GFY...and if your employer is reading this, you are an embarrassment to them as well.

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Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by tical

Wow

Lee you're a piece of shit

Originally Posted by RyuLion

This totally sucks..and I hope it brings more business to you Andrew..

Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee