100sss........and where is woj ?

ok, so i'm going to make a million dollar!
thanks for the push up! :P

Intresting read..some very good pointers

That's not a contradiction. I was not satisfied with $3,500 a week so i kept looking. I am satisfied with $35,000 a week which is what I making now. Thats a huge difference. If I only wanted to make $182,000 a year I would have stayed with Sexkey, you are right they are good people. I have no complaints with their program other then it wasn't helping me accomplish my goals. I am satisfied with where I am at now. Everyone's satification level (aka. goals) will be different for each person.

I used ClickCash as an example because i know exactly how many signups you need to get to make a million a year, which was the point of my post (how to make a million dollars) . I guess I could have used sexkey in the example instead but to be honest I dont know what they are paying these days, just as I am not sure exactly how the pay scale breaks down for the other free signup companes like epic cams etc.

I used them in the example. period. you can apply the same logic from my post to any free signup company and it works. You don't have to signup to clickcash.

Sounds like some got banned for spamming...

Wouldn't be GFY without the haters. Sorry carry on Nofx, your posts are entertaining.

thanks will79

You say that like it is a bad thing ? You hit the nail on the head. People signup under me, I make a % (which clickcash pays me not the affiliate) I help people make more money, i make more money? Thats what I do, whats wrong with that?

Only part you are a little off on is if you don't signup under me. I have helped a lot of people who didn't signup under me. But, I will focus the majority of my efforts on the people who did refer me. Only natural. I am sure people can understand that.

So what's your point here... besides the obvious.

Will79

Would anybody actually be enough of a moron to promote a program that pretends to pay you $40 for a "free" signup. Just curious.

Fuck, does this mean I have to send the 500 some checks I got from clickcash back now? They must have been fake eh?

You = moron.

They just updated the affiliate site about a year ago btw... and who cares if they keep the same link code??? i just updated several promos and ads you can use for clickcash on my site so if you can't make your then you can get new good stuff from me.

The reason why i do so well with them is because i create my own shit anyway. I don't care if they have the same old banners etc.. The $$$$ checks make up for the little extra time I have to spend to make my own stuff, which i feel makes more money anway since I think I have a pretty good feel for each of my traffic streams.

In all honesty, who makes the banners for *most* affiliate companies, designers paid for by the affiliate site owners. How many deigners do you know that make a lot of sales ? How many site owners do you know that are great at converting traffic. ( i am sure there are some btw) but the point is who do you think knows the best? the affiliate who is on the front line everyday and who is the one actually getting the sales. :2 cents:

I actually average $60+ because of my volume. All my checks cash at the bank so not sure what you mean by "pretends to pay... "

If you are trying to say they shave. Well thats something that no one can prove either way (but i would still bet my life they don't). But lets say they do to amuse you for a few minutes, and I am really sending them 5 signups to make that $40+ do you think it makes shit of difference to me? I'm looking at that the bottom line, and the bottom line is that I make a lot more with ClickCash then any other company, period. Even if they are "pretending or not".

Do you understand ?

You'll have to take my word for it because I'm not explaining this biz model here but they do not shave period.

Disclaimer to the idiots: No this does not mean I put fake sales through. Go troll somewhere else.

That's interesting. I don't see any affiliate code in your link to evilgenius so how many sales did *YOU* make as an affiliate to generate that million dollars last year ?

I agree 100% they don't but there are a lot of skepics here so you have to talk to them on a level they can understand which was, what if they did shave.... it still doesn't matter.

damn that was a long read, so many bad advice and false information.

Like ????

Damn this thread still going? :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who replied back to this post with positive things to say. I appreciate the feedback.

To the other screwballs, I wont miss you when school starts back up in a couple weeks.

Unless they've changed style there's no way I'll send any kind of big volume to clickcash.
One day out of the blue they suspended our account and after numerous support attempts we were told by support retard#1 that ALL signups we had sent were chargebacked...
all signups.. we were making around $1k a week I think so that's what? 50 signups/week for several months. It was so sad it was funny.
There's no fucking way I send traffic to a program that a) lies like that or b) hires retards for account screening.

My partner talked to Will and after a few months I think we suddenly got paid, no word or anything. Just recieved a check. No idea if he pulled any strings. But thanks if you did.

Hey, which clickcash account did you have? trying to remember the situation and talking to your partner.

Thanks

i like it.. :)

will76, how much promo material etc do you have? Does clickcash offer some kind of API? I'm interested in doing some upselling from my paysites. I just wanna pick a few suitable genres and only show girls who are online.

Can that be done?

No just the volume would increase, the percentage is still the same.

yes that is not problem I have programming that can pull all the girls online and display them on your site, and then link directly to their chatroom options (free text chat or private ppv).

Hit me up if you have ICQ: 86364801

to make 1 mil a year, I would definately start thinking about moving into mainstream

I'm sticking to my tiny classified ads, the tiny'er they are the more money they make, there.. I told the big secret, have at it

Correctly, I think traffic is a much bigger isue I'm always trying new things to improve sales

The real issue is quality traffic vs. bullshit traffic. I can easily generate 150k bulk traffic but I have a hard time getting 100 hits from google..

There is no shit traffic. Only fake (i.e. Hitbot) traffic is shit.

If you have only (what you call) shit traffic then try to make the most out of it.

Use statistics and analysis (and not guesswork like most webmasters) to see what works best for your shit traffic ... Then it will turn into gold.

as i mentioned in my orginal post, "two important concepts - traffic and sales
"

They both are equally important. I focused more on the sales side instead of traffic in my post because I think this is the concept most people don't understand or miss, which is the importantance of the type of program you promote (rebills, precentage deal, pay per signup, free signups) and trying out new companies till you find the one that works the best for you.

I could write a much longer post on "traffic" and I might try to do that in the next few days if I get a chance. But to give you a few tips, all traffic has a purpose. What you think is trash traffic can be laundered into clean traffic or even profitable traffic if sent to the right program.

Also, its all about ROI. If you find cheap trash traffic say 150K hits for $50. and you send that to a pps company and get no sales. Then you send that to a free signup program, tweak your pages some, and get 2 signups and make $80. Now buy 10x the amount and you will be profiting $300+ a day from that one traffic provider. This is just one example of how sending to the right company and using the right program is very very important.

You say "trash traffic" but it may not be trash if sent to the right program, and if promoted properly. :2 cents:

exaclty, i did not see your reply when i posted but we said the same thing, no wonder i like to associate with like minded smart people ;) :thumbsup

second that one!

Click Cash is a gold mine, always has been.

Clickcash termed me for no reason. I found that out just a few months ago after trying to login to my old account which I havent used in about 2 years. They won't tell me what I did wrong or anything which I found out after emailing them several times. It's a shame, cause I never spammed or anything. Got my traffic from PPC & seo, no spamming.

I guess they didn't like my account being stagnet so decided to term me and not let me signup again.

Their customer service is a bunch of fucking assholes.

chillout. I can find out for you. You probably weren't terminated. Over the last couple years we all needed to sign a webmaster agreement form. I am betting that since you did not sign this your account was placed on hold. Email me I will make sure they get it and it will all be cleared up. Their support isn't " bunch of fucking assholes" just possibly understaffed My site will help them out by answering a lot of the simple stuff like how do i get my link code, etc... which will give their support more time to focus on the important stuff.

email me your account and exactly what happens when you try to login, i will pass it along to them.

Will

Ummm.. I own it :)

Actually, you have reminded me that It was infact their agreement form that I did not sign, which is why I stopped promoting them a while back. Heh. I'm sure that is why they are saying I have violated their TOS. It's a shame they couldn't just tell me what I did wrong.

And I stand by the fact that their CS SUCKS. You cannot deny that. They may be understaffed, I really don't know, but they are without a doubt the worst staff I have ever dealt with in my 6 years in this biz.

Is your email will _AT_ teamclickcash.com ? If so, I'll hit you up.

I did the same shit, wouldnt sign thier form.
I dont even remember my account name, and I was pulling in $10k-$20k weekly with that account.

yes that is my email... and inregards to the support issue, you now have someone on icq and on GFY that can help you, so whether it is through me or not, i will make sure you are taken care of, nothing to worry about.

Thats kind of the same logic, even though I know you are joking. Go buy traffic from one source, and make a profit, then do that x10, x100. The $50, $100, $200 etc... profit per advertisement you make might not seem much by it's self but you do that several times over it adds up :) Sure you will lose on some but if you take a nice portion of your profit and reinvest it back in for more adds instead of blowing it then you will never take a bad hit when you try one that does work. After while you will weed the bad ones out and have you core list of sites you advertise on.... :2 cents:

Before the "hiccup" a few years back when a couple of checks didn't clear, no-one had a bad word to say about ClickCash. They said that was a bank issue and at least for me all it took was a 'phone call to replace the checks (by FedEx if I remember correctly) and I haven't had any problem since.

Anyway I take the "haters" with a large bucket of salt and figure that a program paying out so much on free signups is going to attract a lot of chancers. Speaking of haters, why is will76 attracting so much flack?

Unless the guy is a moron, he isn't going to waste his time pushing a sponsor he doesn't believe in. There would be no point, since his income depends on his downline and he could do the same thing with any sponsor out there.

And the worst scenario is that he doesn't provide any real help and just hopes that chance adds a few decent affiliates to his downline. Is that any worse than most of the sig-whores here? If someone feels let down and wants to punish him, all they have to do is open a new account at CC. Sure it isn't likely many of his "team" will become millionaires, but are the odds worse than winning a Boxter or whatever other cars and prizes programs are using to pull in the terminally naive these days.

Thanks Jayeff you make some great points.

I make a LOT more money with my clickcash account from my own sales then i do from referring people. My webmaster referral money is about 5% of my total (clickcash money) income. But, I spend about equal time on both. Some people might think that is crazy, but I am doing TeamClickCash for the long term. My goal is to have my Webmaster referral money replace my existing clickcash revenue, by the end of next year. Once I accomplish this not only will I be doubling my income, but I will be making passive income from the webmaster sales so I could cut back or retire from my own stuff If i decide to start living a little ;)

I can't help everyone, but I will try. Some people tell me, " Tell me what to do, where to start" "tell me what you do so I can do it" etc... some people either are very very new and have no idea what to do and they truely need a 24/7 mentor which I have absolutly no time for . Or they are looking for a hand out and want me to do it for them... which I admit why would I do that ? Most people are cool, understand my site is a resource site. That I provide a lot of tools that ClickCash does not offer, that I make getting content very easy for them, I even have chathost there that provide custom content for everyone. I also offer free hosting, FHG's, geo-targeted ads, I will personally make you promos for your site (might take a few days), I will review your site and give you suggestions, I have a lot of other features on my site as well as a couple hours of reading on suggestions on how to generate traffic, how to convert better, and just motivational stuff in general. I also make sure your support issues are taken care of.

SO i think if people understand exactly what I am offering they will not be dissapointed. If they are looking for a quick hand out, for me to purge everything i know to them in a matter of a couple hours, thats not going to happen. Like you pointed out, what do they have to lose, my services are free.

I really hope that some people out there that are making 5 - 20 pps sales a day would give clickcash a try and let me help them setup their pages to work the best with clickcash. Would be nice for someone to come back to this thread and say "I took him up on what he was saying here and I tripled my income just by switching to clickcash, from the same traffic". Hell it worked for me, can't see why it wouldn't work for any of you with my help.

Clickcash gets a lot of abuse because there are some ex clickcash scammers here. Since Clickcash is a free program they are scammed or atempted victims of scams all the time. I couldn't tell you how many times I have come across a site (even on ebay) that says " i will pay you $10 pay pal to signup to this site for free". Or " how to make money quick, signup to this link, join up as a webmaster, get 10 friends to signup, have them do the same thing, etc.." Then all these people who signup wind up cancelling or charging back stuff and the person gets busted when clickcash finds the site or one of their idiot friends emails ifriends and says " please cancel I just signed up for the $10" :1orglaugh . Shit happens all the time, and i bet some of the people here have done it. Also when it comes to spam they really don't tolerate complaints like most affiliates. If you mail, for example, and you get complaints your account is terminated. Funny thing is when people get terminated they get pissed, lol and they come to GFY and bash ClickCash and say " i was terminated for no reason".

I need to get back to work :winkwink: bunch of emails to catch up with before i turn icq back on ...


Thanks for your post! :thumbsup

yeah, that was a lonnnnngggg read, thanks anyways!

your welcome :)

find one time where i used the word "easy" out of the 4,000+ plus words in that post.

I will never say that making a million dollars is easy.

Dear Will,

thank You for the long and interesting post. Please advise whether i can start working with ClickCash given that i'm located in a country where cashing checks from US is pain in the ass? Do they offer other payment options (like Epass)?

Regards,
Meorazhar

LOL your a genius, all that text shrunk to two sentences

:thumbsup