If you have to prepare for a war, it's best to assume you'll be alone in the fighting, because you never know how quickly you may be alone, even if others promise to help.

why yay ?

no i mean it takes alot of oil to fight a world war

Remember Nostradamus..

He said "Beware the yellow peril"

Nuff said!

bad at math heh

lots of armchair generals here lol

If china does decide to take over Taiwan the US won't do anything about it, I mean has the US even acknowledge Taiwan as an independent country?
The US would have to invade China to help Taiwan (since according to the US Taiwan is a part of China)

Didn't we just have this same discussion last week?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=492633

China cannot succesfully invade Taiwan right now...It's a long way off if ever.

Maybe after China gets to use some of that technology against us, Clinton will get his picture in their museum, ala John Kerry.

I can't find the article now, but last year China's own defense minister was talking about the firepower of the US Carrier fleet. In his comments he said that China could deal with one Carrier group, and possibly even two, but three or more would be over whelming air power.

These days more than ever the most important thing is air power. A fleet of 5 US air craft carriers would be able to decimate China from a millitary point of view. It's important to remember that being superior from a millitary stand point and taking over and occupying territory are two different things. The US would not need to and would not be able to occupy China, but they sure as shit could pound them with conventional weapons.

All of this is changing as China works hard to upgrade their technology and does not take in to consideration nuclear arms.

50 :thumbsup

I miss woj 50's.
All other's just aren't the same.

This is very true, and brings to mind a point a friend of mine brought up a couple weeks ago. A unique "benefit" of what's going on in Iraq is a lot of US soldiers are getting a lot of experience in dealing with enemies of a 'new type'. If you took a soldier out of a situation like Iraq and put them into a situation like that of a standard war, I honestly feel that they would do better than the average soldier that's only fought in conventional wars before, or is just out of boot camp.

their being trained to become police officers in iraq, nothing more,nothing less

The USA does not have to defeat the Chinese nation, but rather only the ruling party.

In fact the USA has been setting up a lot of developing countries for the big economic fall if they should oppose the USA.

If there is an attack on Taiwan, China will have all economic activity with the west frozen and they will not be able to transact any of the currency reserves they have. A couple months of this will completely destabilize the government there.

Destabalize the public, then what....start shooting them to shut them up? I doubt they care about losing a million or 2 freedom loving traitors amongst them with the balls to overthrow

And if 50 million starve during the war, they still have 1billion 950million left to re-populate

Dont all you Armchair Generals have something better to do on Saturday afternoon?

with all the money we owe to china they will probably storm troop our shores and break our legs mob bookie style

China is the new Russia. It's what China and Russia want which is why Russia is gladly sharing its technology with China. They want to continue being the couterweight in the world.

I sort of agree. I don't think China is at that stage yet though. They're building rapidly towards being the great counterweight, they're just not quite there yet.

2 billion + people....& those are just the ones counted

remember you have to have a permit to have one....so theres alot more that go uncounted, they don't just destroy them when you fuck up & have 2

you give 2 billion people forests full of lumber, mines full of coal & they can probably just outright build small boats & invade the united states with sticks & stones if they wanted

No, really you can't. What happens when you pack 2 billion people in a country like that? You see how quickly SARS spread? A biological attack would be devestating.

The thought of a billion chinese in hand built junks sailing towards the mainland of the USA just sounds like a bad video game. Just how many boats full of chinese with rifles does it take to drop an Apache anyway?

There's still a fairly serious technological advantage to the USA, but it is changing.

take a game like command & conquer......build up 2billion units & send them at a wall of fire power

they get through no matter what the opposing technology

we can't get rid of rats in NYC, their not armed, & i don't think theres even 2 billion of them

China has the potential to be the power country of the 21st century, but they have alot of work and potential potholes to cover before they arrive at that point. So far, so good, but unless they can get the political systems aligned with the economic, there will be a typical Chinese political collapse which is recurrent in the history of the culture, IMO.

Even if they do become the power of the 21st century, open hostilities between the US and China is extremely unlikely. Both countries are now too interdependent and have too much to lose. And, for anyone who spends much time in both countries, the cultural values of the people are much more similar than even those between the US and Europe these days.

There will be friction, and China (which it has done historically) would like to become the dominant military in their sphere of the world, but don't hold your breath or make any investment decisions betting on a war over Taiwan, regardless of the rhetoric of politicians.

Dude.

No really.

Dude.

Did you just make an analogy out of a "game"?

Really?

Stop this thread and just burn it, then.

heh u just said anal
http://www.poster.net/beavis-and-but...ol-4003945.jpg

They're some freaky ass little people.

this pr0 dude is such a jerkoff it's not even funny. 2 billion chinks in wooden boats :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

oops.............

You eat my noodle you basta??

http://www.mosnews.com/files/7042/china.jpg

Look i've said it before, i'll say it again....you can try making the pr0 look bad...but he always wins.

Yup thats me speaking in 3rd person

You racist fucking troll. ::ignore::

need some more donation money loser boy?

Shoot the website in my sig a confession of the perfect way to get top listings in all search engines for any permeation of all possible combinations of the word "anal".

It won't take away that I said "analogy", but I'll forget a game was ever mentioned

:)

is that all ya got?

One former military guy said that, that's not official policy. He doesn't speak for the government.

its apparent you don't have much :Oh crap

1.3 billion

I agree 100%.

If there ever was a war between us, China would win based on it's military strength. However, the country would loose all of it's economic might the moment the first shot fired.

With Russia and the cold war it was fear of nukes that stopped us. Now it will be a financial issue.

And the US should mind it's own damn business about Taiwan.

They are working on a Special Forces add on that will be just that.. :winkwink:

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