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will76 07-22-2005 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
maybe becasue we offer higher payouts, no pre checked cross sales and 1$ and free join options with multiple tours?

i dunno. justa hunch.

higher payouts ?

for epic cams i see you pay *UP TO* $50 a $1 join. ClickCash pays from $45 - $80 for the same type of joins.

will76 07-22-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Don't you think it's funny that he was about to change his print screen, but I saved it quick, and now he doesn't post the "good" one. To funny. 800 a day becomes 552 in 24 days.

Im just curious how much 800 sales a day would = in cash from sales on his site. Lets just say that the person made $30 per signup that would be 720,000 a month. funny on another thread he said he was pushing 400K+ a month from cams. something doesnt add up.

lazycash 07-22-2005 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
maybe becasue we offer higher payouts, no pre checked cross sales and 1$ and free join options with multiple tours?

i dunno. justa hunch.

Wrong on the payouts, Epic pays $15/ free cam join, your affiliate has to do 40 sales per period to finally get to $25/ average on the free join. Mtree and Weg pay out $25/ free cam join, from the very first sale promoting the exact same content and backend. You can continue to try and fool the noobs and those that don't know the cam biz, but you have some of the shittiest payouts within the cam niche and you actually have the gall to bag on another cam program.

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
Wrong on the payouts, Epic pays $15/ free cam join, your affiliate has to do 40 sales per period to finally get to $25/ average on the free join. Mtree and Weg pay out $25/ free cam join, from the very first sale promoting the exact same content and backend. You can continue to try and fool the noobs and those that don't know the cam biz, but you have some of the shittiest payouts within the cam niche and you actually have the gall to bag on another cam program.


its what i do best :) smoke and mirrors scumbag

lazycash 07-22-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
its what i do best :) smoke and mirrors scumbag

Not doing it too good if you're shit just got called out in the open. :1orglaugh

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
higher payouts ?

for epic cams i see you pay *UP TO* $50 a $1 join. ClickCash pays from $45 - $80 for the same type of joins.




william smith

your crappy teamclickcash all it does is pool all the normal clickcash affiliates together and sends to one main acct, and you get the referals from it. it was doing great till your partners fucked you and i got fucked too indirectly by you.


you people want to trust this guy with your money?
he was my neighbor, we flew r/c airplanes together, i sold him some chatroom spam software, he sold me a laptop etc etc. do neighbors usually let their 'friends' get fucked over by their partners? Cal pulled a fast on in the end that you still dont even know about to this day.. I never told you cause i felt you deserved it.

teamclickcash makes noone any more money than clickcash does. let me dig up all of spunkmedia's pages and post them here. hold up

they convert great :) feel free to use them

will76 07-22-2005 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
Wrong on the payouts, Epic pays $15/ free cam join, your affiliate has to do 40 sales per period to finally get to $25/ average on the free join. Mtree and Weg pay out $25/ free cam join, from the very first sale promoting the exact same content and backend. You can continue to try and fool the noobs and those that don't know the cam biz, but you have some of the shittiest payouts within the cam niche and you actually have the gall to bag on another cam program.

Wow, that does suck. I couldn't tell from the site because they only advertise the *up to* amount you can make which was $50 per sale. I didn't see where it said you start off at $15 per sale. It always bothered me when companies advertise heavy on the *up to* amount you can make. Lets be realistic how many of your webmasters even reach that pay level.

So epic cams is $15 - $50

ClickCash:
1 - 10: $40
11 - 50: $45
55 - 100: $50
101 - 250: $55

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
Not doing it too good if you're shit just got called out in the open. :1orglaugh

I didnt get called out at all. not a single one of you know exactly how many sales a day we do on any 1 of our programs. i posted a screen cap of 1 acct, that not a single one of you can prove a single thing about other than make assumptions.

wether its was 552 sales today or all month. it was one acct. more than 90% of you will make this year

if i have 2k affiliates pushing epiccams lets say and they all do 3 sales a day thats 180k sales amonth

realistic?

you decide.

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 04:12 PM

Joins Per Period 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-50 51-100 101 +
Payout Per Join $20 $25 $35 $40 $45 $50

hardly different from your crappy teamscamcash will76

clickcash shaves. and you KNOW this. You shows me the shave software when you were running that other affiliate program for clickcash thats identical to teamclickcash

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 04:16 PM

yes thats right. I was at will's house one night around 2am, and he was bragging about how he was making so much money and showed me the inside of his affiliate area and showed me his shave machine.

wonder why the ratios suck and all hits are not counted? ask will. id love to see his answer.

lazycash 07-22-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
Wow, that does suck. I couldn't tell from the site because they only advertise the *up to* amount you can make which was $50 per sale. I didn't see where it said you start off at $15 per sale. It always bothered me when companies advertise heavy on the *up to* amount you can make. Lets be realistic how many of your webmasters even reach that pay level.

So epic cams is $15 - $50

ClickCash:
1 - 10: $40
11 - 50: $45
55 - 100: $50
101 - 250: $55

On top of that, its $5 less per sale for the non console, so now we're down to $10/ non console free join when comparing to his competition. Yep, as Pimp said, he's all smoke and mirrors. Epiccams is the worst pay per join cam program out there. If you're promoting them you're leaving a lot of money in Pimp's pocket that should be in yours.

lazycash 07-22-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
Joins Per Period 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-50 51-100 101 +
Payout Per Join $20 $25 $35 $40 $45 $50

hardly different from your crappy teamscamcash will76

clickcash shaves. and you KNOW this. You shows me the shave software when you were running that other affiliate program for clickcash thats identical to teamclickcash

Try comparing apples to apples, those aren't your payouts for the nonconsole "free" join. Below is what you payout:

Joins Per Period 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-50 51-100 101 +
Payout Per Join $10 $15 $25 $30 $35 $40

So based on those payouts, one would have to do 65 joins per period just to reach an average of $25/ free non console join vs the $25 payout mtree and wegcash payout from the very first free non console join promoting the exact same tours and backend. Less than 5% of your affiliates pushing your cams are doing over 65/joins per period, does the other 95% realize how much you are fucking them over?

will76 07-22-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
william smith

your crappy teamclickcash all it does is pool all the normal clickcash affiliates together and sends to one main acct, and you get the referals from it. it was doing great till your partners fucked you and i got fucked too indirectly by you.


you people want to trust this guy with your money?
he was my neighbor, we flew r/c airplanes together, i sold him some chatroom spam software, he sold me a laptop etc etc. do neighbors usually let their 'friends' get fucked over by their partners? Cal pulled a fast on in the end that you still dont even know about to this day.. I never told you cause i felt you deserved it.

teamclickcash makes noone any more money than clickcash does. let me dig up all of spunkmedia's pages and post them here. hold up

they convert great :) feel free to use them


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Lars this guy is priceless, now i see why you guys like his threads soo much. I couldn't pay 10K dollars in advertising for this type of exposure.

I think you have me confused with someone else pal. Possibly you are talking about Volume Brokers or another site like that? I was never your neighbor, hell I don't even know where you live. You DO NOT know who i am i can assure you of that.

First of all You can ask anyone who is a team clickcash member here and they will tell you that we DO NOT pool sales. My stats which I have posted here is WHAT I MAKE and has nothing to do with team clickcash. All of the people who refer me all have their OWN accounts. Crazy concept we all work together and help each other out even though we have our own accounts.

TeamClickCash is a webmaster resource site for ClickCash Webmasters who signuped up and referred me. I make 10% webmaster referral period from team clickcash. I help them by providing the following:

Provide promotional material such as free hosted site, banners, and ads. Free hosted galleries, geo targeted ads, full blown sites like www.camgirlfinder.com www.webcam-search-by-city.com etc. I also have chathost from ifriends on my site that chat with webmasters and make custom content for them like:
http://www.teamclickcash.com/content.../69sunny69.wmv
http://www.teamclickcash.com/content.../coedkitty.wmv
(both girls are on teamclickcash and produced this content, which the greeting was my idea, for teamclickcash members to use)

I will make any ad/promo that someone needs. I have full time programmer and designer on staff to make ads for members. I offer a lot of advice and tips on what works best with clickcash and how to make the most money with them. I offer advanced tracking software so you can track your sales 10x better. I provide 24/7 *general* support for anything that i can help with it.I have a link generator feature.I have a messageboard were we all can interact and help each other out. I offer free hosting for your sites, the list goes on.

All of this and i only make money if they make money. I and I get paid my 10% from clickcash, it is 100% free to the affiliate.

Now you know how my site works.

justsexxx 07-22-2005 04:32 PM

Pimpledog. Why should we trust you? You say you convert great. Well my stats show different

You say your top affiliates do 800 joins a day. Then I quickly saved your image(while you removed it) and it shows they do 5whatever hundred sales in 24 days.

Lol anyone that takes you serious is brainwashed or stupid

will76 07-22-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
yes thats right. I was at will's house one night around 2am, and he was bragging about how he was making so much money and showed me the inside of his affiliate area and showed me his shave machine.

wonder why the ratios suck and all hits are not counted? ask will. id love to see his answer.


WTF ARE YOU TALKNG ABOUT FOOOL ? you do not know me. :warning :warning :warning :warning :warning

Fletch XXX 07-22-2005 04:37 PM

dude http://www.fletchbucks.com/ cams blows away all this shit

Elli 07-22-2005 04:38 PM

Is this thread still going? Holy cow.

Just for comparison, here's the cams.com PPS breakdown:

1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS

11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS

41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS

71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS

201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS

401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS

601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS

701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS

801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS

will76 07-22-2005 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=p1mpdogg]I didnt get called out at all. not a single one of you know exactly how many sales a day we do on any 1 of our programs. i posted a screen cap of 1 acct, that not a single one of you can prove a single thing about other than make assumptions.

wether its was 552 sales today or all month. it was one acct. more than 90% of you will make this year

if i have 2k affiliates pushing epiccams lets say and they all do 3 sales a day thats 180k sales amonth

realistic?

you decide


No need to make assumptions. You said it yourself here: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/477186-cams-com-sucks.html post #105 you said:

Quote:

post something funny, or some pics. something not about your lame ass cams. i have cams doing 400+k a month, and im not spouting off to all of gfy about it all day long.
I made almost half that for June, just from ME, MYSELF, I alone, no pooled traffic shit like you are talking about and that you think you know me. IF i did half of what cams section did then I don't think what you did was too impressive. I am just one affiliate and no one special, even though you think you know me. lol

Myst 07-22-2005 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli
Is this thread still going? Holy cow.

Just for comparison, here's the cams.com PPS breakdown:

1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS

11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS

41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS

71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS

201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS

401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS

601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS

701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS

801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS

Is that per day?

will76 07-22-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli
Is this thread still going? Holy cow.

Just for comparison, here's the cams.com PPS breakdown:

1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS

11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS

41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS

71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS

201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS

401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS

601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS

701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS

801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS

yes but they have to actually spend money, what $25 for you to make that. From my experience you can get 4x more people to join for free w/credit card then you can to pay $25 from the same amount of traffic. People can do the math or try it out for themselves. you will see you will get a lot more signups when they person does not have to spend money when they signup.

You can't compare that pay scale equally to a free signup w/credit card program, just as you can't compare a free signup w/credit card to a free signup w/ email program.

Elli 07-22-2005 04:53 PM

Point taken.

The minimum the customer has to spend is $20, then it counts as a sale. And those totals are per pay period.

edit: 100 cams.com camgirls getting naked for you

chadglni 07-22-2005 04:59 PM

I love these threads.

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 05:02 PM

sorry took a nap, my mind was going numb after checking my bank accounts in all the offshore hidaways that i place your hard earned money

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 05:05 PM

will76, maybe i mistook you for volume brokers scammer william smith aka spunky aka something else on gfy, i forget his nick. as you can see why i mistook you for him you have the same name and the same type of program. either way you suck cock and if you put our programs side by side, id bet we(epiccams) made the affiliate more.

im willing to test it. are you?

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Point taken.

The minimum the customer has to spend is $20, then it counts as a sale. And those totals are per pay period.

edit: 100 cams.com camgirls getting naked for you


ahhhhh so they need to actually spend money in order to get a sale counted?

thats where we differ.

if they signup, they get paid. period. they dont need to spend a dime.

this is a HUGE difference, but I wouldnt expect a girl of your magnitude to understand this

Sean 07-22-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
ahhhhh so they need to actually spend money in order to get a sale counted?

thats where we differ.

if they signup, they get paid. period. they dont need to spend a dime.

this is a HUGE difference, but I wouldnt expect a girl of your magnitude to understand this


eddie money is playing in santa cruz in 50 minutes

justsexxx 07-22-2005 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
will76, maybe i mistook you for volume brokers scammer william smith aka spunky aka something else on gfy, i forget his nick. as you can see why i mistook you for him you have the same name and the same type of program. either way you suck cock and if you put our programs side by side, id bet we(epiccams) made the affiliate more.

im willing to test it. are you?

I'm sure he wants to make money with serious programs, and he doesn't like to make monopoly money with programs with unprofessional ppl

Andre

Elli 07-22-2005 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
ahhhhh so they need to actually spend money in order to get a sale counted?

thats where we differ.

if they signup, they get paid. period. they dont need to spend a dime.

this is a HUGE difference, but I wouldnt expect a girl of your magnitude to understand this

I'm going to take that insult as a compliment. Now I feel like one of the gang. Thank you. :)

will76 07-22-2005 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
will76, maybe i mistook you for volume brokers scammer william smith aka spunky aka something else on gfy, i forget his nick. as you can see why i mistook you for him you have the same name and the same type of program. either way you suck cock and if you put our programs side by side, id bet we(epiccams) made the affiliate more.

im willing to test it. are you?


*maybe* you mistook me for someone else? I think we can say definetively that you mistook me for someone else. So you confuse me with this guy because my name was Will? BTW I am also not Will Smith the actor :2 cents:

Ok lets put the programs side by side. Lets compare my clickcash sales to your top guys sales for epic cams? I doubt i am even the top guy for CLickCash but I will go up against your top guy for epic cams. Remember you said you only make 400K+ a month from epic cams, so no fibbing :1orglaugh

You definetly beat me and my "program" for professionlism though :helpme

Elli 07-22-2005 05:20 PM

edit: GFY hiccuped.

justsexxx 07-22-2005 05:20 PM

edit: Whatever

will76 07-22-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
I'm going to take that insult as a compliment. Now I feel like one of the gang. Thank you. :)


Elli you seem sweet, ignore the guy and lets us get dirty playing with him.

On one hand this guy is trying to tell you how much better his program is because his affiliates get paid per $1 signup and they dont need to spend money. But then he says he thinks his program is better then clickcash which works the same way as his but pays 2x more then what he does per signup.

:pimp You and cams.com are about the same. Like i stated before free signup with credit card produces about 4x more then a $20 join. So you take your sorry ass payout rate and times it by 4 and you are basically the same as what cams.com is offering with a $20 pay signup.

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
*maybe* you mistook me for someone else? I think we can say definetively that you mistook me for someone else. So you confuse me with this guy because my name was Will? BTW I am also not Will Smith the actor :2 cents:

Ok lets put the programs side by side. Lets compare my clickcash sales to your top guys sales for epic cams? I doubt i am even the top guy for CLickCash but I will go up against your top guy for epic cams. Remember you said you only make 400K+ a month from epic cams, so no fibbing :1orglaugh

You definetly beat me and my "program" for professionlism though :helpme


blah

money talks bullshit walks.

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
*maybe* you mistook me for someone else? I think we can say definetively that you mistook me for someone else. So you confuse me with this guy because my name was Will? BTW I am also not Will Smith the actor :2 cents:

Ok lets put the programs side by side. Lets compare my clickcash sales to your top guys sales for epic cams? I doubt i am even the top guy for CLickCash but I will go up against your top guy for epic cams. Remember you said you only make 400K+ a month from epic cams, so no fibbing :1orglaugh

You definetly beat me and my "program" for professionlism though :helpme


blah

money talks bullshit walks.

http://epicmailer.com/cams.JPG
had enough of your lip
last monthhs stats for cams. happy?

Elli 07-22-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Elli you seem sweet, ignore the guy and lets us get dirty playing with him.

On one hand this guy is trying to tell you how much better his program is because his affiliates get paid per $1 signup and they dont need to spend money. But then he says he thinks his program is better then clickcash which works the same way as his but pays 2x more then what he does per signup.


I am. I will. and I know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
:pimp You and cams.com are about the same. Like i stated before free signup with credit card produces about 4x more then a $20 join. So you take your sorry ass payout rate and times it by 4 and you are basically the same as what cams.com is offering with a $20 pay signup.

Was this directed at p1mpd0gg? Or...?

And we don't pay $20 per signup. That's what the client spends. We pay $50 per sale if you send less than 11 in a pay period.

p1mpdogg 07-22-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli
I am. I will. and I know.



Was this directed at p1mpd0gg? Or...?

And we don't pay $20 per signup. That's what the client spends. We pay $50 per sale if you send less than 11 in a pay period.


the user also has to spend 20 bucks in order for the affiliate to get paid.

1 out of 10 users spend more than 20 bucks on cams. sweety.

Myst 07-22-2005 05:31 PM

elli, that payscale posted earlier, whats the time period? a day? 2 weeks? a month?

Elli 07-22-2005 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst
elli, that payscale posted earlier, whats the time period? a day? 2 weeks? a month?

2 weeks.

will76 07-22-2005 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
blah

money talks bullshit walks.


had enough of your lip
last monthhs stats for cams. happy?


your right bullshit does walk and you are hard to keep up with.

Last month you said you were making 400K with cams. Wow you must have had a hell of a jump in sales. 400K for May and 1,000,000 for June. Damn! thats one hell of a jump... someone smell bullshit ?

Elli 07-22-2005 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
the user also has to spend 20 bucks in order for the affiliate to get paid.

1 out of 10 users spend more than 20 bucks on cams. sweety.

Isn't that what I just said? darling.


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