House bill approved: Patriot Act extended 10yrs the day of the London "bombs" - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 07-21-2005, 08:55 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House voted Thursday to extend the USA Patriot Act, the nation's main anti-terrorism tool, just hours after televisions in the Capitol beamed images of a new attack in London.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., a former FBI agent, recalled using such tools in gang and child molestation investigations.

"All we do in the Patriot Act is say, 'Look, if we can go after child molesters sitting in the library and bombers who we need to sneak-and-peek on a warrant, we ought to be able to go after terrorists,'" he said.

As similar legislation worked its way through the Senate, House Republicans generally cast the law as a valuable asset in the war on terror. Most Democrats echoed that support but said they were concerned the law could allow citizens' civil liberties to be infringed.

The roving wiretap provision, Section 206, allows investigators to obtain warrants to intercept a suspect's phone conversations or Internet traffic without limiting it to a specific phone or identifying the suspect. The records provision, Section 215, authorizes federal officials to obtain "tangible items" such as business, library and medical records.

The bill also includes 10-year extensions to the two other provisions set to expire on Dec. 31, one allowing roving wiretaps and another allowing searches of library and medical records. FULL STORY
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The above is just a few snippets.. I suggest reading the whole article. What are your thoughts? Don't you find it interesting the republicans mentioned child porn and the patriot act in the same sentence? What do you think about this?

fuzzylogic · 07-21-2005, 09:16 PM

the timing was perfect for the bill to be passed.

stage another bombing (then 2nd london) and there will be no questioning about whether or not to pass the act...

nofx · 07-21-2005, 09:20 PM

crock of shit

fuck the patriot act

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"Periodically revisiting the Patriot Act is a good thing," said Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Mass. "The Patriot Act was an effort to answer the most difficult question a democracy faces: How much freedom are we willing to give up to feel safe?"

Democrats were incensed after Republican leaders blocked consideration of an amendment that would have blocked the library searches. The House approved identical language last month in a test vote.

"If you don't like it, come up and speak against it," said Rep. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who sponsored the amendment. "But it has passed once and it would likely pass again."

Rawz · 07-21-2005, 09:25 PM

Next the constiturion will be amended so Bush can stay in office for those 10 years ....

baddog · 07-21-2005, 09:28 PM

Come on, who is going to say Bush set off the bombs?

nofx · 07-21-2005, 09:30 PM

The Patriot Act was passedjust over a month after the September 11th attacks and it was done in the middle of the night.

not surprising it was extended in a shadey way.

tristan_D · 07-21-2005, 10:47 PM

I think they have been doing it for a long time already, just now that they have found the reason to justify it to the open.

Bladewire · 07-22-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nofx

The Patriot Act was passedjust over a month after the September 11th attacks and it was done in the middle of the night.

not surprising it was extended in a shadey way.

I agree.. strange coinsidence that is was passed just a few hours after the little pipe bombs went off in London for the second time.

Notice the lack of definition for the term "suspected terrorist"?

Without defining what things a "suspected terrorist" does.. they can mess with anyone they like, for whatever reason, and say the person was a terror suspect

They've tried linking pornography as a source of money laundering for terror groups before.. now it's even easier for them to do whatever they want in the name of keeping people safe from pornography... um.. I mean terrorists.

Adultnet · 07-22-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

I agree.. strange coinsidence that is was passed just a few hours after the little pipe bombs went off in London for the second time.

Notice the lack of definition for the term "suspected terrorist"?

Without defining what things a "suspected terrorist" does.. they can mess with anyone they like, for whatever reason, and say the person was a terror suspect

They've tried linking pornography as a source of money laundering for terror groups before.. now it's even easier for them to do whatever they want in the name of keeping people safe from pornography... um.. I mean terrorists.

Nah dude this should not be that bad.. anyways Im not sure if this will get some fine results ...

je_rome · 07-22-2005, 12:39 AM

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Next the constiturion will be amended so Bush can stay in office for those 10 years ..

i really think so too.. tsk. tsk. althought the bill is just in time.

07-21-2005, 08:55 PM	#1
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	House bill approved: Patriot Act extended 10yrs the day of the London "bombs" WASHINGTON (AP) - The House voted Thursday to extend the USA Patriot Act, the nation's main anti-terrorism tool, just hours after televisions in the Capitol beamed images of a new attack in London. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., a former FBI agent, recalled using such tools in gang and child molestation investigations. "All we do in the Patriot Act is say, 'Look, if we can go after child molesters sitting in the library and bombers who we need to sneak-and-peek on a warrant, we ought to be able to go after terrorists,'" he said. As similar legislation worked its way through the Senate, House Republicans generally cast the law as a valuable asset in the war on terror. Most Democrats echoed that support but said they were concerned the law could allow citizens' civil liberties to be infringed. The roving wiretap provision, Section 206, allows investigators to obtain warrants to intercept a suspect's phone conversations or Internet traffic without limiting it to a specific phone or identifying the suspect. The records provision, Section 215, authorizes federal officials to obtain "tangible items" such as business, library and medical records. The bill also includes 10-year extensions to the two other provisions set to expire on Dec. 31, one allowing roving wiretaps and another allowing searches of library and medical records. FULL STORY -------------------- The above is just a few snippets.. I suggest reading the whole article. What are your thoughts? Don't you find it interesting the republicans mentioned child porn and the patriot act in the same sentence? What do you think about this?

07-21-2005, 09:25 PM	#4
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07-21-2005, 09:30 PM	#6
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07-21-2005, 09:16 PM	#2
fuzzylogic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: buffalo, las vegas. icq: 285808879 Posts: 4,796	the timing was perfect for the bill to be passed. stage another bombing (then 2nd london) and there will be no questioning about whether or not to pass the act...

07-21-2005, 09:28 PM	#5
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Come on, who is going to say Bush set off the bombs?