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Roberto · 01-28-2002, 08:08 PM

Sorry, but it's the ugliest banner i've seen in ages

i volunteer to make a new one for free

oops, i'll post it here so you don't need to refresh a thousand times

Hope you don't mind and btw i'm not associated with foxcounter :D

Naughty · 01-28-2002, 08:15 PM

You get what you pay for!

Wiredoctor · 01-28-2002, 08:23 PM

Forget about their banner, does anyone know about their counter?? Good or Bad comments, I've never seen them...also what does their actual counter image look like.???

spacedog · 01-28-2002, 09:00 PM

I sent them a very nasty email once for spamming me...
They sent me an email.
Hi ,
we seen your site & thought you'd be interested in our counter services..

PeepNTom · 01-28-2002, 09:08 PM

dialerking seems to own it

Roberto · 01-28-2002, 09:34 PM

Here goes one:

<EMBED src="http://www.pornstarshome.com/personal5/october31/fox.swf" WIDTH=468 HEIGHT=68 quality=high</EMBED>

foxy · 01-28-2002, 11:04 PM

hey roberto thanks for that nice banner. we would like to buy that from you

To all you other guys, we have spent 3 years developing foxcounter so we would really appreciate your feed back about the stats area etc.

cheers,
foxy

the fox rocks
http://www.foxcounter.com

Rocky · 01-28-2002, 11:10 PM

that's a sweet banner Roberto

two thumbs up to you bro'

ztik · 01-28-2002, 11:23 PM

nm ;)

DialerNET · 01-29-2002, 03:15 AM

Very very nice banner.
Nothing I hate more than show off's.
Hang on.. Yes there is.. Talented show off's. That REALLY yanks my chain - people that show off, and have a good reason to want to show off.
*ugh*

Back to design school for me.

Jason.

Theo · 01-29-2002, 03:58 AM

cool work Roberto. Looking the banner i can imagine that was done from someone that can afford graphic designers or even probably has, but he has an obsession to try things alone.

Trax · 01-29-2002, 04:06 AM

you worked 3 years for you counter and than you gusy spent 1 min for banner design and bought advertising space for several 1000 dollars
how about investing few bucks/few min in webdesign if you guys want to be taken serious

Trax · 01-29-2002, 04:09 AM

jon posted something cool at AWI:

AWI Banner Spot $1,000
Banner Design For AWI $10
Website Design $5
Spamming Webmasters Priceless

Some things money can buy...For things money can't buy expect dialerking

lol

Jon

--------------------
we should not only talk about their banner but about their fucking spam messages they sent to A LOT of guys including me to all my domains!

BrettJ · 01-29-2002, 07:46 AM

I don't mean to piss on your little parade...

okay well i guess I do....

You HAVE NOT spent 3 years developing your own counter. That's bullshit!! It doesn't take 3 years of developement to write the code. And nobody sits in alpha and beta phases for years... "testing" a counter ... so don't try that shit either.

It doesn't look like you've invested much thought into site design and click behavior. And if the graphic in the lower corner of the mainpage is what the counter image looks like... you haven't given a lot of thought to the business model.

So what have you been doing for 3 years?

my guess...talking to your buddies about "maybe creating a counter someday" How far off am i?

Trax · 01-29-2002, 07:49 AM

actually seems to be very easy to create your own counter

BrettJ · 01-29-2002, 07:54 AM

It's easy to write the code.

It's hard to build one that is scalable to handle the load of adult sites.

and - it's a gruelling thing to launch / market

Naughty · 01-29-2002, 08:02 AM

Our counter seems to do fine, it took 6 weeks to develop, but needs tweaking and finetuning every time, cause it is never perfect. It also needs to grow, as well as your members' database.
Anybody who thinks it is easy to make a counterprogram is wrong. It might be easy to count a few hits, but give the members a real added value, is different.

(Disclaimer:

Opinions differ, just like *I* think there is a difference between a Flash banner and a banner made in Swish and export as Flash format. A Flash banner might take hours, even a day to design, a Swish banner 10 minutes. I bet any designer will agree with me)

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-29-2002, 09:12 AM

I have 6 Email accounts ... these guys spammed all 6 of them in the past week ...

my cousin does not even have a website, and she got the same "we liked your site ..." email

I am going to go ahead and sign up for their counter ... both the adult and the mainstream ones ... just so I can FACTUALLY say if they are any good or not ....

FULL REPORT TO FOLLOW SHORTLY ...

RIPP · 01-29-2002, 09:13 AM

Yep foxcounter comes from dialerking

I run filters on my emails so I know where spam hails from :D

And yep... got spammed with the pretend "I just visited your website" which I think sucks..... now if someone HAD truly visited my website and had INFORMATION on something that may TRULY BENEFIT OUR SITES... And not be thought of primarily as benefiting THEIR bottom line if they convert another webmaster then I might consider it.

Btw this is NOT an invitation to go to our sites and then spam us with crap... If I get too pissed with crap mails I redirect all the crap at the mail that last pissed us off and will send along something to cripple their mail along with reporting them to their hosts and Isps AND SPONSERS for spamming.

So don't fucking do it!

I also notice limited information on foxcounter website... There definately isn't a privacy "we won't spam your ass" link, which makes me think this is more an email list generator than anything else.

Ps. Wtf is with dialerking using a hotmail address? "Not very business like" is 1st thing I thought of after signing up to the dialer program and later receiving an email back... Obviously since then I have not even started to promoted their sites. To much hassle with Ibill, without looking in the face of possible more trouble and unprofessionalism.

PPs. Still lol'ing @ hearing about 3 years to create a counter and stats program. :D

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sasush · 01-29-2002, 09:29 AM

Banner is toooo fucking huge !

jimmyf · 01-29-2002, 09:48 AM

I was going to use there counter but if that's the smallest banner they have, forget it.

Also I use Nutscape and IE prefer NutScape, went to there page (from the spam I got) and none of the links worked in NutScape.
Sent them a email and they did answer it very fast
with fixed it...Didn't check it, waited for the expert reviewer's on GFY, knew they would be coming.

If they spent 3 years on this counter and never bother to check it with NutScape, hard to believe.

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty
Our counter seems to do fine, it took 6 weeks to develop, but needs tweaking and finetuning every time, cause it is never perfect. It also needs to grow, as well as your members' database.
Anybody who thinks it is easy to make a counterprogram is wrong. It might be easy to count a few hits, but give the members a real added value, is different.

(Disclaimer:
Opinions differ, just like *I* think there is a difference between a Flash banner and a banner made in Swish and export as Flash format. A Flash banner might take hours, even a day to design, a Swish banner 10 minutes. I bet any designer will agree with me)

I agree with you, it's a 30' project out of boredom, and i used swish, i was tempted to do a better banner in flash but nah

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foxy
hey roberto thanks for that nice banner. we would like to buy that from you

To all you other guys, we have spent 3 years developing foxcounter so we would really appreciate your feed back about the stats area etc.

cheers,
foxy

the fox rocks
http://www.foxcounter.com

It's yours

i'll better make it clickable to foxcounter.com :D

Eric · 01-29-2002, 10:13 AM

Hey Roberto,

Shoot me over that banner so I can have it changed on the top of GFY...

eric AT adult.com

Thanks,
Eric

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
cool work Roberto. Looking the banner i can imagine that was done from someone that can afford graphic designers or even probably has, but he has an obsession to try things alone.

actually i was bored :D

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DialerNET
Very very nice banner.
Nothing I hate more than show off's.
Hang on.. Yes there is.. Talented show off's. That REALLY yanks my chain - people that show off, and have a good reason to want to show off.
*ugh*

Back to design school for me.

Jason.

It's unprofessional to flame other's work, there's something i hate, and i apologize

but i had some free time and decided to do a quick banner, it's not a masterpiece that's for sure, just fucking around :D

Quoth the Raven · 01-29-2002, 10:41 AM

saw this on AWI board:

'' Guys ! Always but *ALWAYS* be careful when sites suggest you put their code in your pages in a format such as (script src="http://www.balbalcounter.com/?blabla") at any time they can feed your pages with any redirecting/auto-scripts/etc.. code ''

Naughty · 01-29-2002, 11:02 AM

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
saw this on AWI board:

'' Guys ! Always but *ALWAYS* be careful when sites suggest you put their code in your pages in a format such as >script<src="http://www.balbalcounter.com/?blabla"< at any time they can feed your pages with any redirecting/auto-scripts/etc.. code ''

quote the raven

h0st · 01-29-2002, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto

I agree with you, it's a 30' project out of boredom, and i used swish, i was tempted to do a better banner in flash but nah

Have you tried swish 2.0 yet.. (2002.01.09 ) It´s pretty kewl

.:h0st

Quoth the Raven · 01-29-2002, 02:32 PM

The script written above was sligthly modified as to not mess this post.

^R3K^ · 01-29-2002, 02:40 PM

should we really be pissing on someone that PAYS fr advertising space here? just a thought

onlyreal · 01-29-2002, 03:10 PM

It can take more my friends working on a superb counter for 3 years and still developing

best counter i saw but it is Turkish

)

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ
I don't mean to piss on your little parade...

okay well i guess I do....

You HAVE NOT spent 3 years developing your own counter. That's bullshit!! It doesn't take 3 years of developement to write the code. And nobody sits in alpha and beta phases for years... "testing" a counter ... so don't try that shit either.

It doesn't look like you've invested much thought into site design and click behavior. And if the graphic in the lower corner of the mainpage is what the counter image looks like... you haven't given a lot of thought to the business model.

So what have you been doing for 3 years?

my guess...talking to your buddies about "maybe creating a counter someday" How far off am i?

SR · 01-29-2002, 03:19 PM

Why even think of using a counter from such spammers?

I heard that counter costs $7,99/min.

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^R3K^
should we really be pissing on someone that PAYS fr advertising space here? just a thought

Pissing about the spam or banner? i think the spam thing refers to emails, not board spam as obviously they paid for the space...
if it's about the banner, i bitched about the banner out of annoyance, but i've also made a new one for free, productive pissing

foxy · 01-29-2002, 04:18 PM

thanks roberto!!

Anyway, we would love to hear some feedback on our stats and webmaster area. Our button that appears on a webmasters page, is only 120x60 (we made it smaller in the last 24hours)

Thanks again to everybody for the feed back no matter if it is good or bad.

Theo · 01-29-2002, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto

actually i was bored :D

i was talking for the primary banner ;)

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

i was talking for the primary banner ;)

lol, now i got it

bhutocracy · 01-29-2002, 06:38 PM

the wolf should probably be more stylised.. trace over it in flash and play with it a little to make it a little more 'street' it looks a little out of place.. like it's just been cut out from someone else's cartoon.. roberto kinda fixed it a little by taking the shoulder or whatever it was out.. but it's still unrefined.. especially on the web page.. speaking of which is very information poor.. focus more on the benefits of using your program.. theres not a lot of 'sell'... also use eurostile extended bold (or bold roman or whatever roberto used) instead of the weak serif font you've got currently.. oh and you might want to 'trace' over the ad roberto did in flash to forgo the filesize that comes with a swish generated file....

SR · 01-29-2002, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
the wolf should probably be more stylised.. trace over it in flash and play with it a little to make it a little more 'street' it looks a little out of place.. like it's just been cut out from someone else's cartoon.. roberto kinda fixed it a little by taking the shoulder or whatever it was out.. but it's still unrefined.. especially on the web page.. speaking of which is very information poor.. focus more on the benefits of using your program.. theres not a lot of 'sell'... also use eurostile extended bold (or bold roman or whatever roberto used) instead of the weak serif font you've got currently.. oh and you might want to 'trace' over the ad roberto did in flash to forgo the filesize that comes with a swish generated file....

It's a fox

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
the wolf should probably be more stylised.. trace over it in flash and play with it a little to make it a little more 'street' it looks a little out of place.. like it's just been cut out from someone else's cartoon.. roberto kinda fixed it a little by taking the shoulder or whatever it was out.. but it's still unrefined.. especially on the web page.. speaking of which is very information poor.. focus more on the benefits of using your program.. theres not a lot of 'sell'... also use eurostile extended bold (or bold roman or whatever roberto used) instead of the weak serif font you've got currently.. oh and you might want to 'trace' over the ad roberto did in flash to forgo the filesize that comes with a swish generated file....

The font is square ex bt, pretty much the same as eurostyle, available into any corel 9 and up cd near you!
The site needs a lot of work, i agree, and the fox too for a "grafitti" look but i have to pass a "nominal" quote for that ;)

burn · 01-29-2002, 07:14 PM

foxcounter, sexhound, sextracker all the same, everyone just rips eachother off DIE ALL OF YOU

foxy · 01-29-2002, 07:18 PM

bhutocracy thanks for that advice

i looked at your eroticfusion site..wow love the design it rocks!!!!

Roberto · 01-29-2002, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by burn
foxcounter, sexhound, sextracker all the same, everyone just rips eachother off DIE ALL OF YOU

lol, how about lightspeed?

01-28-2002, 08:15 PM	#2
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01-28-2002, 08:23 PM	#3
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01-28-2002, 11:23 PM	#9
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01-29-2002, 03:15 AM	#10
DialerNET Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 268	Very very nice banner. Nothing I hate more than show off's. Hang on.. Yes there is.. Talented show off's. That REALLY yanks my chain - people that show off, and have a good reason to want to show off. ugh Back to design school for me. Jason. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-29-2002, 09:12 AM	#18
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	I have 6 Email accounts ... these guys spammed all 6 of them in the past week ... my cousin does not even have a website, and she got the same "we liked your site ..." email I am going to go ahead and sign up for their counter ... both the adult and the mainstream ones ... just so I can FACTUALLY say if they are any good or not .... FULL REPORT TO FOLLOW SHORTLY ... __________________

01-28-2002, 08:08 PM	#1
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	foxcounter banner... Sorry, but it's the ugliest banner i've seen in ages i volunteer to make a new one for free oops, i'll post it here so you don't need to refresh a thousand times Hope you don't mind and btw i'm not associated with foxcounter :D Last edited by Roberto; 01-28-2002 at 08:13 PM..

01-28-2002, 09:00 PM	#4
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I sent them a very nasty email once for spamming me... They sent me an email. Hi , we seen your site & thought you'd be interested in our counter services..

01-28-2002, 09:08 PM	#5
PeepNTom Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: yer freakin window Posts: 275	dialerking seems to own it

01-28-2002, 09:34 PM	#6
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	Here goes one: <EMBED src="http://www.pornstarshome.com/personal5/october31/fox.swf" WIDTH=468 HEIGHT=68 quality=high</EMBED>

01-28-2002, 11:04 PM	#7
foxy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 44	hey roberto thanks for that nice banner. we would like to buy that from you To all you other guys, we have spent 3 years developing foxcounter so we would really appreciate your feed back about the stats area etc. cheers, foxy the fox rocks http://www.foxcounter.com

01-28-2002, 11:10 PM	#8
Rocky Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Living Off The Grid Posts: 3,022	that's a sweet banner Roberto two thumbs up to you bro'

01-29-2002, 03:58 AM	#11
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	cool work Roberto. Looking the banner i can imagine that was done from someone that can afford graphic designers or even probably has, but he has an obsession to try things alone.

01-29-2002, 04:06 AM	#12
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	you worked 3 years for you counter and than you gusy spent 1 min for banner design and bought advertising space for several 1000 dollars how about investing few bucks/few min in webdesign if you guys want to be taken serious

01-29-2002, 04:09 AM	#13
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	jon posted something cool at AWI: AWI Banner Spot $1,000 Banner Design For AWI $10 Website Design $5 Spamming Webmasters Priceless Some things money can buy...For things money can't buy expect dialerking lol Jon -------------------- we should not only talk about their banner but about their fucking spam messages they sent to A LOT of guys including me to all my domains!

01-29-2002, 07:46 AM	#14
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	I don't mean to piss on your little parade... okay well i guess I do.... You HAVE NOT spent 3 years developing your own counter. That's bullshit!! It doesn't take 3 years of developement to write the code. And nobody sits in alpha and beta phases for years... "testing" a counter ... so don't try that shit either. It doesn't look like you've invested much thought into site design and click behavior. And if the graphic in the lower corner of the mainpage is what the counter image looks like... you haven't given a lot of thought to the business model. So what have you been doing for 3 years? my guess...talking to your buddies about "maybe creating a counter someday" How far off am i?

01-29-2002, 07:49 AM	#15
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	actually seems to be very easy to create your own counter

01-29-2002, 07:54 AM	#16
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	It's easy to write the code. It's hard to build one that is scalable to handle the load of adult sites. and - it's a gruelling thing to launch / market

01-29-2002, 08:02 AM	#17
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Our counter seems to do fine, it took 6 weeks to develop, but needs tweaking and finetuning every time, cause it is never perfect. It also needs to grow, as well as your members' database. Anybody who thinks it is easy to make a counterprogram is wrong. It might be easy to count a few hits, but give the members a real added value, is different. (Disclaimer: Opinions differ, just like I think there is a difference between a Flash banner and a banner made in Swish and export as Flash format. A Flash banner might take hours, even a day to design, a Swish banner 10 minutes. I bet any designer will agree with me)

01-29-2002, 09:13 AM	#19
RIPP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: It smells a little like fish Posts: 111	Yep foxcounter comes from dialerking I run filters on my emails so I know where spam hails from :D And yep... got spammed with the pretend "I just visited your website" which I think sucks..... now if someone HAD truly visited my website and had INFORMATION on something that may TRULY BENEFIT OUR SITES... And not be thought of primarily as benefiting THEIR bottom line if they convert another webmaster then I might consider it. Btw this is NOT an invitation to go to our sites and then spam us with crap... If I get too pissed with crap mails I redirect all the crap at the mail that last pissed us off and will send along something to cripple their mail along with reporting them to their hosts and Isps AND SPONSERS for spamming. So don't fucking do it! I also notice limited information on foxcounter website... There definately isn't a privacy "we won't spam your ass" link, which makes me think this is more an email list generator than anything else. Ps. Wtf is with dialerking using a hotmail address? "Not very business like" is 1st thing I thought of after signing up to the dialer program and later receiving an email back... Obviously since then I have not even started to promoted their sites. To much hassle with Ibill, without looking in the face of possible more trouble and unprofessionalism. PPs. Still lol'ing @ hearing about 3 years to create a counter and stats program. :D Later, RIPP ------------------ <b><font color="orange">Mo MoneY</font> - <font color="#80ff80">GREAT Commisions, NEVER LATE & Customers Yours For LIFE</font></b> <font color="white">Sex Toy Specialists</font> <A HREF="http://www.sextoysinternational.com/join/index.shtml" target="sextoys"><font color="yellow">Sex Toys International Affiliate Program</font></a> <font color="white">Adult DVD & Video Specialists</font> <A HREF="http://1-adult-dvd-xxx-sex-videos.com/webmasters.shtml" target="1adult"><font color="yellow">#1 Adult DVD & XXX Sex Videos Store Affiliate Program</font></a> <b><font color="#80ff80">CLICK A LINK</font> - <font color="orange">Make MO MONEY</font></b>

01-29-2002, 09:29 AM	#20
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	Banner is toooo fucking huge !

01-29-2002, 09:48 AM	#21
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	I was going to use there counter but if that's the smallest banner they have, forget it. Also I use Nutscape and IE prefer NutScape, went to there page (from the spam I got) and none of the links worked in NutScape. Sent them a email and they did answer it very fast with fixed it...Didn't check it, waited for the expert reviewer's on GFY, knew they would be coming. If they spent 3 years on this counter and never bother to check it with NutScape, hard to believe. __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

01-29-2002, 10:13 AM	#24
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Hey Roberto, Shoot me over that banner so I can have it changed on the top of GFY... eric AT adult.com Thanks, Eric

01-29-2002, 10:41 AM	#27
Quoth the Raven Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The State of Mind Posts: 617	saw this on AWI board: '' Guys ! Always but ALWAYS be careful when sites suggest you put their code in your pages in a format such as (script src="http://www.balbalcounter.com/?blabla") at any time they can feed your pages with any redirecting/auto-scripts/etc.. code '' __________________ Quoth the Raven, nevermore. Last edited by Quoth the Raven; 01-29-2002 at 02:24 PM..

01-29-2002, 11:02 AM	#28
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01-29-2002, 02:32 PM	#31
Quoth the Raven Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The State of Mind Posts: 617	The script written above was sligthly modified as to not mess this post. __________________ Quoth the Raven, nevermore.

01-29-2002, 02:40 PM	#32
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01-29-2002, 03:19 PM	#34
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Why even think of using a counter from such spammers? I heard that counter costs $7,99/min.

01-29-2002, 04:18 PM	#36
foxy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 44	thanks roberto!! Anyway, we would love to hear some feedback on our stats and webmaster area. Our button that appears on a webmasters page, is only 120x60 (we made it smaller in the last 24hours) Thanks again to everybody for the feed back no matter if it is good or bad.

01-29-2002, 06:38 PM	#39
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	the wolf should probably be more stylised.. trace over it in flash and play with it a little to make it a little more 'street' it looks a little out of place.. like it's just been cut out from someone else's cartoon.. roberto kinda fixed it a little by taking the shoulder or whatever it was out.. but it's still unrefined.. especially on the web page.. speaking of which is very information poor.. focus more on the benefits of using your program.. theres not a lot of 'sell'... also use eurostile extended bold (or bold roman or whatever roberto used) instead of the weak serif font you've got currently.. oh and you might want to 'trace' over the ad roberto did in flash to forgo the filesize that comes with a swish generated file....

01-29-2002, 07:14 PM	#42
burn Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 507	foxcounter, sexhound, sextracker all the same, everyone just rips eachother off DIE ALL OF YOU

01-29-2002, 07:18 PM	#43
foxy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 44	bhutocracy thanks for that advice i looked at your eroticfusion site..wow love the design it rocks!!!! __________________ cheers, foxy http://www.foxcounter.com the fox rocks!!!