So glad the war in Iraq is over, pity the Iraqis haven't been told

[Paul Markham]

Conflict 'kills 25,000 Iraqis'

So Bush thinks it's all over does he?

The world wil be paying the price for this fools actions years after he's gone.

[Corleone]

"Almost a fifth of the 24,865 deaths were women or children ..."




rumsfeld said they'll stay till 2012 maybe

[Ogix]

The war is not over.

[llporter]

Too bad no one has told the families of the American soldiers that keep getting killed

[Relish XXX]

How many Iraqis per day were dying when Saddam was in power? Now the death toll increases by 34 per day.

[justsexxx]

Fuck the US government. Oh well, when enough US soldiers die, at some point they will pull back. Sad that mister Bush was never a soldier at the front.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Corleone

"Almost a fifth of the 24,865 deaths were women or children ..."




rumsfeld said they'll stay till 2012 maybe

That's nearly 5,000 women and children. If Rumsfeld is right the figure will be over 15,000 womenad children killed before they withdraw in shame.

What the stupid fucks do not realise, or maybe they do and don't care, is the terrorists want them there to take all the blame. In the Muslim world the reason for these deaths are because the Americans are there.

So much for the excuse of invading to stop the killings, this report exposes that excuse as another one of their lies.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Relish XXX

How many Iraqis per day were dying when Saddam was in power? Now the death toll increases by 34 per day.

That was down to Saddam, these deaths are down to Bush and Blair and the people behind them.

[KraZ]

War is hell ... always reminds me of the images in Apocalypse Now.

[tristan_D]

I think war is the most lucrative industry. Imagine how much the government is spending to fund a war.

[Odin88]

Originally Posted by charly

That's nearly 5,000 women and children. If Rumsfeld is right the figure will be over 15,000 womenad children killed before they withdraw in shame.

What the stupid fucks do not realise, or maybe they do and don't care, is the terrorists want them there to take all the blame. In the Muslim world the reason for these deaths are because the Americans are there.

So much for the excuse of invading to stop the killings, this report exposes that excuse as another one of their lies.

Regardless though muslims are notorious for blaming everything on someone else. I thought the war was a total waste of time and money to begin with, but leftist fags like you need to get over it. The US is there, and who would you prefer to see win? You can make the arguement that strategically it would be better for them to withdraw (not sure if that is all you're saying) but I am beginning to think you get off on the thought of them 'loosing'. They need to win this shit, and they need to learn from it. Never fight a war for Israel again.

[BlueDesignStudios]

are those dead iraqi's entitled to the same justice that the president continually talks about, or are they making a sacrifice for freedom & democracy?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Odin88

Regardless though muslims are notorious for blaming everything on someone else. I thought the war was a total waste of time and money to begin with, but leftist fags like you need to get over it. The US is there, and who would you prefer to see win? You can make the arguement that strategically it would be better for them to withdraw (not sure if that is all you're saying) but I am beginning to think you get off on the thought of them 'loosing'. They need to win this shit, and they need to learn from it. Never fight a war for Israel again.

So you think when your goverment screws up major you should just ignore it?

This will be a war that only the extremists will win, they will get more recruits, sympathy and backing fromthe illegal invasion of Iraq. The US has already lost this war, or maybe you can tell me what they have won that I missed. No WMDs, no end to the killings, no oil, no big money coming out of Iraq for contractors, no respect. So what did I miss?

As for being a fag, well I guess there are a few women who will tell you otherwise.

[FunForOne]

You kids have been told that President Bush is evil and started a war to steal oil.

The Irony is that you have been told that by agents of the organization that was actually stealing the oil and they are doing a great job of leading you around all day.

[jayeff]

So here you are, George Bush, President of the USA. You inherit a mid-east foreign policy which for 75 years has been to keep the region unstable in all but 3 countries: Israel because of the Jewish lobby and because back in the days of the Cold War the US wanted to guarantee at least one solid ally in the area; and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to ensure the supplies of cheap oil on which your economy is based.

And it's all coming apart at the seams...

It has been 10 years since the last major US initiative in the region. Since then, Arab nationalism and moslem fundamentalism have both continued to grow such that without further intervention, within 5-10 years the regimes in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will be overthrown and the entire region, except Israel, will share a common hatred of the US. The 4 largest oil reserves on the planet will all be in unfriendly hands. Even if you might want to change the dependence of the US economy on imported oil, you cannot do it within that time scale.

To buy enough time, there are only two possible targets: Iran or Iraq. They are the only countries large enough for your activities to impact on the region as a whole and they are the only countries, apart from your allies, sitting on large oil reserves. Iraq is the softer target, it also presents the opportunity to finish what your father started, and to some extent your electorate is already primed to accept an attack on that country. Iraq it is.

Your next problem is how to get your voters to approve. For years your colleagues, predecessors and the media have been dumbing down America to the point where people haven't a clue about foreign affairs and care less. You haven't a cat's chance in h*ll of dragging them away from their reality shows long enough to sell them a rational argument. So you opt for fear, because as Hermann Goering pointed out, it's easy and it works every time.

I'm not making excuses for George Bush and I'm strongly opposed to what we are doing in Iraq. Yet it is extremely difficult to imagine that any President, whose priority has to be the welfare of the US, could have made radically different choices at this time. Similarly, I don't approve of the lies and half-truths that were used to mobilize public opinion, but how else can you get the public's attention these days? As for Haliburton and the rest, they are just sideshows: invading Iraq would mean lots of profits up for grabs, so why not make sure your friends get as much as possible.

The flaw in democratic government is that every four years (or whatever) you have to be re-elected and to be re-elected you have to tell people what they want to hear. You know you should be explaining to people why you need to take away their SUV's, but you know if you do that, the other guy will promise them bigger, cheaper SUV's. Approve controls on a factory that is spewing pollution into the air and tomorrow that district's representative votes against your Social Security bill.

Over the next 20 years, a lot of chickens are going to be coming home to roost in education, healthcare, employment, pollution, foreign policy, oil, the economy. You name it. Whether at the end of all that we are still a democratic republic remains to be seen.

[Odin88]

Originally Posted by charly

So you think when your goverment screws up major you should just ignore it?

This will be a war that only the extremists will win, they will get more recruits, sympathy and backing fromthe illegal invasion of Iraq. The US has already lost this war, or maybe you can tell me what they have won that I missed. No WMDs, no end to the killings, no oil, no big money coming out of Iraq for contractors, no respect. So what did I miss?

As for being a fag, well I guess there are a few women who will tell you otherwise.

No I think people should challenge Bush on his reason for going to war, but at the same time make it clear they realise they have a responsibility to win this war. They may not win money, but if you think it is impossible to seriously overcome the current problems you are certainly someone I wouldn't want beside me in the trenches. The war is very different to many conventional wars, but all the same the US has overcome huge odds in the past to beat both Japan and essentially Germany (although it obviously wasn't them alone). Shit may hit the fan for a while but the war can definetly be won (in the sense that something good can come of it all) with the right approach. All the same I think it was a complete waste of money and good people going in there, but now there really is no option.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Fuck the US government. Oh well, when enough US soldiers die, at some point they will pull back. Sad that mister Bush was never a soldier at the front.

perhaps he should be sent(like if that will ever happen)to get a taste of his own medicine