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07-15-2005, 09:02 AM

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China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday.

hahaha8220;If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,hahaha8221; said General Zhu Chenghu.

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07-15-2005, 09:05 AM

You do realize that their nuclear capabilities pales in comparison to the US arsenal right? The few nuclear subs that they have can't even travel too far because they break down so often.
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07-15-2005, 09:06 AM

This is a definite threat.

I have played enough battlefield 2 to know this.
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07-15-2005, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by wdsguy

You do realize that their nuclear capabilities pales in comparison to the US arsenal right? The few nuclear subs that they have can't even travel too far because they break down so often.

It's enough for them to shoot off a few.

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07-15-2005, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by wdsguy

You do realize that their nuclear capabilities pales in comparison to the US arsenal right? The few nuclear subs that they have can't even travel too far because they break down so often.

The only reason why you think you know that is because the US says so..

Reality is China is most probably equiped enough to do at least as much damage as we can.
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07-15-2005, 09:36 AM

it is clear that they want to expand their territory of control.
china doesnt want to be bothered by us while taking over far east region.

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07-15-2005, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by mrthumbs

The only reason why you think you know that is because the US says so..

Reality is China is most probably equiped enough to do at least as much damage as we can.

I've spent a year in China during my college years as a poly sci major doing research on chinese nuclear weapons capabilities. Believe what you want, china has nukes but is hardly a viable contender if they came to blows with the US.
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07-15-2005, 09:43 AM

All they need is a few to hit certain cities and it's a big problem.
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07-15-2005, 09:43 AM

Gen Zhu said his views did not represent official Chinese policy and he did not anticipate war with the US.

He is spouting at the mouth.

Its still a scarey thought to think of the US and China engaging in such a manner.

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07-15-2005, 09:45 AM

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07-15-2005, 09:49 AM

Damnit Harry, you should have let me have a go at them when we had the chance.

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07-15-2005, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by wdsguy

I've spent a year in China during my college years as a poly sci major doing research on chinese nuclear weapons capabilities. Believe what you want, china has nukes but is hardly a viable contender if they came to blows with the US.

do they even have a reliable delivery system? north korea has nukes too, but as it is now, they would need to fedex them to america.

i am pretty sure neither of thsoe countries have boomers, and i doubt they even have capable ICBM's.

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07-15-2005, 10:00 AM

China is going to be the next World Power, which is why we need to nuke the shit out of it and demolish half their population......... j/k

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07-15-2005, 10:01 AM

Yeh ok that'll be the day.

Radicals we should worry about.

Countries we should not. Any country that pulls the nuke card on the US would not only have all their military and politcal command centers decimated, but would be isolated from the world's economy instantly, and have the entire block of western and NATO countries to deal with.

Not gonna happen unless someone is damn stupid, and the Chinese are not.

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07-15-2005, 10:03 AM

I wonder how that satellite defence system is doing these days
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07-15-2005, 10:08 AM

We should sent "Evening News Team" and "Spanish Language News Team" over to fuck up China.

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07-15-2005, 10:10 AM

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07-15-2005, 10:11 AM

And people say that Canadians only feel safe because we're next door the US.... well, it's quite the opposite.
The thought of a nuke nitting New York and affecting us across the boarder does not make me feel "safe."

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07-15-2005, 10:54 AM

china is always threatening everyone but yet we are going to let them buy a US oil company and we have the largest trade deficit in history with them, and cuba, has never threatened us but yet we have then sanctioned to death and they are only 90 miles off our coast.

we need to lift all sanctions on cuba and be friends with them and ban all teade with china.

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07-15-2005, 11:55 AM

Why would they attack their biggest market, especially for future economic prosperity.
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07-15-2005, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Manowar

This is a definite threat.

I have played enough battlefield 2 to know this.

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07-15-2005, 12:04 PM

We would shit all over china with our nuclear capabilities. Man power is a different story. They are in a dream world.

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07-15-2005, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by DavieVegas

We would shit all over china with our nuclear capabilities. Man power is a different story. They are in a dream world.

It doesn't matter who has more nukes... all it takes is one to hurt.

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07-15-2005, 12:08 PM

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It doesn't matter who has more nukes... all it takes is one to hurt.

I agree. I was stating a point. China thinks they are tough shit and they need a reality check. All im saying.

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07-15-2005, 12:43 PM

It's just talk....There will never be a war over Taiwan as it would mean the end of the party in China.

I guarantee the Americans know the location of every warhead in China, and those will be the targets of the first precision strikes. Once they are gone the war is over.

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07-15-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

It's just talk....There will never be a war over Taiwan as it would mean the end of the party in China.

I guarantee the Americans know the location of every warhead in China, and those will be the targets of the first precision strikes. Once they are gone the war is over.

just like they knew where those WMD were in Iraq.....but I agree it is just talk, the Chinese are not stupid.
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07-15-2005, 12:48 PM

might have started another shitty war....

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07-15-2005, 12:50 PM

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do they even have a reliable delivery system? north korea has nukes too, but as it is now, they would need to fedex them to america.

i am pretty sure neither of thsoe countries have boomers, and i doubt they even have capable ICBM's.

I have no idea what a boomer is unless you're talking about football comentators, but if you think China does not have the ability to reach the western USA with ballistic missiles, you're simply wrong.
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07-15-2005, 12:53 PM

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07-15-2005, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Manowar

This is a definite threat.

I have played enough battlefield 2 to know this.

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07-15-2005, 01:04 PM

Being in Hawaii is kinda scary when shit like this starts happening.. We are the only place they have a chance of reaching.
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07-15-2005, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

It's just talk....There will never be a war over Taiwan as it would mean the end of the party in China.

You're kidding, right? China is going to take Taiwan back before America pulls it's troops out of Iraq. This comment was to let the hawks in Washington know that they're serious about defending themselves if the US tries to interfere.

Some of you should really stop paying so much attention to American war movies and start paying more attention to American wars. The US can not take on China and their allies without the entire world turning into a nuclear waste land, including North America. Go back to organizing coups against socialist leaders in poor South American countries, although the incompetent Bush administration can't even pull that off.
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07-15-2005, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Rich

You're kidding, right? China is going to take Taiwan back before America pulls it's troops out of Iraq. This comment was to let the hawks in Washington know that they're serious about defending themselves if the US tries to interfere.

Some of you should really stop paying so much attention to American war movies and start paying more attention to American wars. The US can not take on China and their allies without the entire world turning into a nuclear waste land, including North America. Go back to organizing coups against socialist leaders in poor South American countries, although the incompetent Bush administration can't even pull that off.

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07-15-2005, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Rich

You're kidding, right? China is going to take Taiwan back before America pulls it's troops out of Iraq. This comment was to let the hawks in Washington know that they're serious about defending themselves if the US tries to interfere.

Some of you should really stop paying so much attention to American war movies and start paying more attention to American wars. The US can not take on China and their allies without the entire world turning into a nuclear waste land, including North America. Go back to organizing coups against socialist leaders in poor South American countries, although the incompetent Bush administration can't even pull that off.

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07-15-2005, 01:15 PM

Maybe someone should remind this ass hat of a General that his country is hosting the 2008 Summer Olympics and threatening nuclear war is bad for business.

His PR skills are lacking, somewhat.

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07-15-2005, 01:16 PM

I have been saying China would start swinging their cock around very soon and have been laughed at over and over.

We would have our ass handed to us if we went to war with China. However it is unlikely that they would make such a move at this point. They will plan their day. China will be the next world super power in time to come.
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07-15-2005, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I have been saying China would start swinging their cock around very soon and have been laughed at over and over.

We would have our ass handed to us if we went to war with China. However it is unlikely that they would make such a move at this point. They will plan their day. China will be the next world super power in time to come.

It's scary how fast they're becoming a super power. They already control the Panama canal, one of the most important strategic resources on the planet. A lot of people don't realize that. America creates the country of Panama, builds the canal, and then less than 100 years later looses control of it to communists. Once they're able to purchase Unocal, expect them to start grabbing up energy and defense companies like crazy. They have close to one trillion dollars in reserve US currency, enough to buy Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and every existing US energy company. What did Lenin say about capitalists selling the rope to hang them with? China seems to have listened.
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07-15-2005, 01:27 PM

Any NUKE that China could use is a NUKE that will kill untold people.

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07-15-2005, 01:29 PM

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07-15-2005, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Rich

You're kidding, right? China is going to take Taiwan back before America pulls it's troops out of Iraq. This comment was to let the hawks in Washington know that they're serious about defending themselves if the US tries to interfere.

China has no ability whatsoever to get a force across to Taiwan and then maintain it there even if the USA did not intervene. The Party would never risk it's control of the country with a war with the USA. Any economic reversal or loss of face through military defeat would mean the end of Party rule. The Party knows this and would never take this risk. Their strategy for Taiwan is looong term and very patient.

The USA is well aware of the situation and knows it doesn't have to fight China, but rather only the Party. The Americans could win this without a single bomb by using only economic pressure. As soon as they can't afford to keep the lights on in Shanghai the public will go ape.

The comment by the general is classic Chinese BS. Deniable chatter from a low level official. If they are called on it they can always say the guy was drunk. It's there way of sending a message.

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07-15-2005, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

China has no ability whatsoever to get a force across to Taiwan and then maintain it there even if the USA did not intervene.

I think the same was said about Hitler when they said there was no way they could have amassed an army and pose any real threat in such little time.

And that was real military types saying that, not just internet message board "intelligence"

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07-15-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

China has no ability whatsoever to get a force across to Taiwan and then maintain it there even if the USA did not intervene.

Clearly you've been paying close attention to China's massive military buildup.
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07-15-2005, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Rich

Clearly you've been paying close attention to China's massive military buildup.

It's a long way to Taiwan. You would need both naval and air supremacy to get there and then supply your forces. This sort of ability is decades away at best.

In desert storm most of the Iraqi equipment was actually purchased from China, and it is well known that the Chinese brass were truly shaken at how badly it performed. Saying there is a military buildup is not really correct...China has no offensive military capability and is just now working on establishing a defensive capability.

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07-15-2005, 01:55 PM

I hope china and the us go to war, and I hope all people in the US are decimated, oh but wait, the real ppl that need to die in the us all hide
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07-15-2005, 01:58 PM

Underground compounds, secret hide's/locations, whatever, intentionally withheld intelligence, quick evacuation methods for priveliged, etc.

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07-15-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

It's a long way to Taiwan. You would need both naval and air supremacy to get there and then supply your forces. This sort of ability is decades away at best.

In desert storm most of the Iraqi equipment was actually purchased from China, and it is well known that the Chinese brass were truly shaken at how badly it performed. Saying there is a military buildup is not really correct...China has no offensive military capability and is just now working on establishing a defensive capability.

I don't know where you get your information, but it's dead wrong. The pentagon itself said recently that they're worried about China's military buildup, even going as far as to say that they may be close to being equivalent to the US military. It's all been done in secret, they've been underreporting their buildup for years. There's no question that they have the capability to take Taiwan if America stays out of it.
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07-15-2005, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

It's a long way to Taiwan. You would need both naval and air supremacy to get there and then supply your forces. This sort of ability is decades away at best.

In desert storm most of the Iraqi equipment was actually purchased from China, and it is well known that the Chinese brass were truly shaken at how badly it performed. Saying there is a military buildup is not really correct...China has no offensive military capability and is just now working on establishing a defensive capability.

Even if the Chinese army was armed with pointy sticks and slingshots it would still be rather potent given its sheer size.

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07-15-2005, 02:01 PM

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07-15-2005, 02:03 PM

One thing that can be said about the Chinese, they don't make idle threats. Perhaps it'll be part of a strategy in hopes that there will be no conflict from it, but it's no bluff... they won't say they will do something unless they are fully capable and willing to do it.

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