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Old 07-13-2005, 08:40 PM   #1
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Question To AVN In Regards To Exhibition Times

I heard that our new exhibiting times will be from 11-3 instead of previous show times being 9/10-5.

So basically we are losing face time infront of our customers since the show times will be shortened drastically... If we're only exhibiting for 12 hours (versus 24 hours at previous shows) why the heck are we paying the same price? In actuallity we're paying more because AVN now automatically includes the internet access into every booth.

I honestly don't think we will exhibit again after this year in Miami, it's just getting to be so much of a cash grab... Stick a fork in me, I'm done!

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:42 PM   #2
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OH BUT WAIT

you get to hang out by the pool

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:42 PM   #3
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booths are fucking stupid anyway

just bring 5 hot chicks with you and walk around handing out flyers and chatting with people
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:47 PM   #4
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AVN is really getting greedy. Someone else should be in charge of putting on this event.
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:47 PM   #5
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OH BUT WAIT

you get to hang out by the pool

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Hehe well at least the pool is nice, too bad the beach got washed away

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:48 PM   #6
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booths are fucking stupid anyway

just bring 5 hot chicks with you and walk around handing out flyers and chatting with people
Hehe yourself + 5 girls x $300 per pass you might as well have gotten a booth. It's almost the same price LOL!

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:50 PM   #7
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AVN is really getting greedy. Someone else should be in charge of putting on this event.
I don't have anything against AVN however I just don't see the value in exhibiting anymore and I think the $300 per pass rule is the silliest thing I have ever heard. There are other ways to generate more revenue than doing the things they are doing... They are driving business away not towards them...

Just my 2 cents

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Old 07-13-2005, 09:29 PM   #8
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Funny when I brought this to peoples attention in the past
I was accused of attacking Aly and having a personal grudge against AVN

It's getting clearer by the day that once again I am right-
But no one will agree with me until a big dog comes out and posts.
ie. Drinking Hard, Sweet T, Ron Cadwell, and Roger V

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Old 07-13-2005, 10:00 PM   #9
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So the convention floor is from 11 - 3 now? Is the rest of the time poolside meetings or what? I was hoping for a little more business value than 4 hours per day here.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:05 PM   #10
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Funny when I brought this to peoples attention in the past
I was accused of attacking Aly and having a personal grudge against AVN

It's getting clearer by the day that once again I am right-
But no one will agree with me until a big dog comes out and posts.
ie. Drinking Hard, Sweet T, Ron Cadwell, and Roger V

It's ok- In the end, I know I am always right and that is what matters most

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no shit dude, remember that thread a few weeks back, no one jumped on board and we were made to look like the bad guys for even suggesting it....oh, but now that major players jumped on board, i guess it really is a bad thing now? does anyone think for themselves anymore?
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:13 PM   #11
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I have made millions at my booths at the old AVN shows. Too bad the show floors are dying, adn AVN had decided to kill the show floors by spreading people out around the property without a central meeting place.

We passed on a booth.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:20 PM   #12
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I gather the poolside bar is the new common meeting area, just like the round bar in Vegas.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:22 PM   #13
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I originally thought of that too, but how much dead time is there when the doors first open, and the last hour of the day? A LOT.

Now, with only 4 hours per day, I'm guessing the floor is gonna be packed from nearly start to finish.

edit-shit, some booths don't even have anyone there for the last hour because it's so slow.

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Old 07-13-2005, 10:27 PM   #14
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I gather the poolside bar is the new common meeting area, just like the round bar in Vegas.
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I think the Pool Idea is great but I still want to see some Girls in Bikinni's while I network.

these shows are a time to bond you close the deal when you get home over the phone or ICQ
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:28 PM   #15
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I have made millions at my booths at the old AVN shows. Too bad the show floors are dying, adn AVN had decided to kill the show floors by spreading people out around the property without a central meeting place.

We passed on a booth.
For those selling content etc. yes but its a time to network and meet the people you do biz with or would like to in the future. sometimes a booth will impress them sometimes a good fuck will.. whatever works
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:30 PM   #16
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Hehe well at least the pool is nice, too bad the beach got washed away

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screw the beach, to many sharks.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:36 PM   #17
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I wonder why only 4 hours? Is it so they don't have to staff it for 8hrs a day?
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Funny when I brought this to peoples attention in the past
I was accused of attacking Aly and having a personal grudge against AVN

It's getting clearer by the day that once again I am right-
But no one will agree with me until a big dog comes out and posts.
ie. Drinking Hard, Sweet T, Ron Cadwell, and Roger V

It's ok- In the end, I know I am always right and that is what matters most

KBTALKS
Hehe well thanks for putting me in the leagues of those fine gentlemen, I am humbled

I think Aly is one of the loveliest and smartest ladies in the business today, I think she is fantastic. I just don't agree with some of the decisions AVN has made on this show... If a whole bunch of my advertisers were all coming to me and complaining about issues that were bothering them, I would'nt sit on my hands about it. I would get busy and see what I can get resolved immediately. My advertisers are my bread and butter and if they are not happy I have a big fricking problem.

And yes KB you are always right

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Wow, that sucks! I usually don't get to the floor till late in the day. Webmaster access and cybernet expo's are looking pretty damn good!
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:59 PM   #21
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11-3 is awful steep. All joking aside, the people with the most purchasing power travel in a different league. They will not be out of bed before noon on ANYDAY of this event. They will be having lunch at around 1:30 when they leave their lunch meeting at 2:30 with intentions of " hitting the floor" they will be stopped by everyone who recognizes a pic of them from GFY to say " hello" and "we'll have to do biz sometimes" They arrive at the show floor at 3:05 and it's over until tomorrow .

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11-3 is awful steep. All joking aside, the people with the most purchasing power travel in a different league. They will not be out of bed before noon on ANYDAY of this event. They will be having lunch at around 1:30 when they leave their lunch meeting at 2:30 with intentions of " hitting the floor" they will be stopped by everyone who recognizes a pic of them from GFY to say " hello" and "we'll have to do biz sometimes" They arrive at the show floor at 3:05 and it's over until tomorrow .

rinse repeat.
you just nailed my day LOL
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I have made millions at my booths at the old AVN shows. Too bad the show floors are dying, adn AVN had decided to kill the show floors by spreading people out around the property without a central meeting place.

We passed on a booth.
i will miss the pizza
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:17 PM   #24
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you just nailed my day LOL
Yep I know, this is the same day that.

Any program owner worth doing biz with has

Any owner of a processing company has

Any "Whale" webmaster/seo guy has

Any person attending this event with a check book in the black from money earned in this business has.

They are killing the Sponsor's who paid a nice sum of money to show off their products.

While I am sure the next whale will be somewhere in the pool of fish. I wouldn't want to pay to fish there.
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Mine too.
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I always get a booth and they are always good to me... you need to stay in 1 place and eventually you get to see everyone. If you always have somebody in your booth you can do good business

of course you need something that people want to buy;-)
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WA Montreal was great for me and not once did i ever feel like i was getting fucked in the ass...Well other than when i was in the elevator with Juicy and then a few hours later Ramos...But I at least liked that.
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12 possible hours of show time
300 bucks
300/12 = 25.

we are going to pay 25 bucks an hour to get to the show. and thats if you walk in at open and leave at close. heaven forbid you sleep late 1 day. cost you 25 bucks worth of show time. better bring a lunch with you. hate to miss that hour.

hey Ally, remember me saying "watch and see"

see?
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If I had known this I would not have went in on a booth. What a ripoff
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Look on the bright side. There won't be any eyecandy outside, so maybe people will get a good nights sleep and go to the show floor. ................

















I could happen......
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