What do you think HD on the Internet will do for mainstream? - GoFuckYourself.com

Cory W · 07-12-2005, 08:07 AM

Consumers can now get a free upgrade to Quicktime HD, and if the reel was shot out of an HD camera, they can view full (wide) screen in HD quality.

I am not sure how things work with the PC, but my Mac has software that will import the reel and cut it up. Lowend software all the same, but still something to consider. I took a tutorial on it (shooting, importing, cutting).

Now, I could be aloof to things, but I haven't noticed many pitching the concept. In other words, "CNN.com is now in HD..." Sites like IFilm offering movies in HD.

Thing is, HD from your cable company requires a minimum of around $1200 considering you have to have the HD ready TV. Now the Internet can make it free.

-Do all monitors accept the feed?
-How many players will display too date? I only see Quicktime.

Now, for shooting basic web content, you can buy the camera for around $2600. That camera is expensive, but it shoots professional footage. It is a huge camera. Sony has in the works a mini-HD cam, similar to the ones a lot of us run around with. This will go for $2k (which in my opinion will begin the massive price drop).

Will this effect the web?

Adult? I tend to think not, but might as well throw it in there. Will consumers want to view porn in HD?

Mainstream content? Once you have the players installed, are you going to search out this type of content?

That is what I do on my TV.

WiredGuy · 07-12-2005, 09:20 AM

I believe iFriends now offers a few of their girls shows in HD as well now. But I imagine you'd need an uberfast modem and equivalent processing power to handle the feed. I imagine it won't hit the mass market for at least 1-2 years if ever.

WG

Cory W · 07-12-2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I believe iFriends now offers a few of their girls shows in HD as well now. But I imagine you'd need an uberfast modem and equivalent processing power to handle the feed. I imagine it won't hit the mass market for at least 1-2 years if ever.

WG

Here is where you really need to investigate IMO. I viewed it and experienced it at the Mac store, likely the best place on earth to view that technology.

I asked them about Quicktime HD, they said the download was free and that anyone could view....but you know how that goes.

Pornwolf · 07-12-2005, 09:26 AM

I Freinds has had that for a year now. It looks good but your computer has to be in top shape to handle it.

Cory, you Mac people kill me with this, "
-How many players will display too date? I only see Quicktime." stuff.

Windows Media Player has been able to handle HD for a couple of years now. No special announcement was necessary to let people know either. That's how IFreinds encodes their clips.

Anyway it goes it will be big once the Dual core systems have a decent level market penetration. As it stands right now, most consumers don't even have enough RAM to make it a option.

Barefootsies · 07-12-2005, 09:37 AM

I think the 1-2 year predictions is a bit off.

Not saying anything on you, just saying from some of the nimbrods that e-mail me (most aol users) I would bet these tools are a good 5 years off of just about any new technology, including taking care of their tooth.

WiredGuy · 07-12-2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Here is where you really need to investigate IMO. I viewed it and experienced it at the Mac store, likely the best place on earth to view that technology.

I asked them about Quicktime HD, they said the download was free and that anyone could view....but you know how that goes.

A technological adoption like this would take several years nevertheless. Look at the history of it, when highspeed came out, there were quite a few early adopters but still dialup remains the top way to get online even though there are better alternatives. Same for routers once wireless came out. Same for the adoption of Flash when it was introduced by Macromedia. I think it will pick up but it will take years to hit the mass markets.

WG

Lane · 07-12-2005, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Consumers can now get a free upgrade to Quicktime HD,

Quicktime could always play HD resolution. New Quicktime v7 comes with H.264 codec, which is a very good compression method, which reduces HD movies to reasonable sizes. That's the reason they're featuring HD movies for this new player.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

and if the reel was shot out of an HD camera, they can view full (wide) screen in HD quality.

HD can be shot with some new digital camcorders. It can be wide screen or not, which is not a requirement for HD.
Film is chemical, it does not have a certain resolution per se, but it is always higher quality than HD, so it is possible to convert film into HD with special equipment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I am not sure how things work with the PC, but my Mac has software that will import the reel and cut it up. Lowend software all the same, but still something to consider. I took a tutorial on it (shooting, importing, cutting).

You can edit HD movies on PC and Mac with standard editing software.. But it would be very slow if you don't have beefy hardware.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Now, I could be aloof to things, but I haven't noticed many pitching the concept. In other words, "CNN.com is now in HD..." Sites like IFilm offering movies in HD.

Many channels started offering HD content. They have been archiving their content in HD quality for a while now. I have over 10 HD channels at home.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Thing is, HD from your cable company requires a minimum of around $1200 considering you have to have the HD ready TV. Now the Internet can make it free.

Incorrect. My cable bill is about $70/month (including basic service too) and I get 10-15 HD channels besides everything else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

-Do all monitors accept the feed?

Yes, except if the monitor can't display high enough resolution, the movie might be scaled down, losing quality.
For example if you wanna play an HD movie that is 1920x1080, on a 1280x1024 monitor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

-How many players will display too date? I only see Quicktime.

Pretty much all players can.
Here is some sample HD movies encoded in Windows Media 9 codec: http://www.wmvhd.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Now, for shooting basic web content, you can buy the camera for around $2600. That camera is expensive, but it shoots professional footage. It is a huge camera. Sony has in the works a mini-HD cam, similar to the ones a lot of us run around with. This will go for $2k (which in my opinion will begin the massive price drop).

Consumer cameras that can shoot HD have been just coming out, but I can't comment on their quality as I don't have the experience. But the professional ones are still expensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Will this effect the web?

Definitely. But it will be a slow transition as bandwidth prices drop and hardware improves. If you have a 2 year old PC, you may not be able to play HD movies. Also basic broadband speeds are not fast enough to stream these movies. You can still download them though.
HD movies can range anywhere between 6mbit/sec to 10mbit/sec

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Adult? I tend to think not, but might as well throw it in there. Will consumers want to view porn in HD?

Personally I would love to see HD porn. Resolution is high and colors are very crisp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Mainstream content? Once you have the players installed, are you going to search out this type of content?

Again, we already have the players. What the new Quicktime player offers is the new H.264 code (ie. Mpeg-4 Part 10). Since its a good compression method, all quicktime based HD movies are likely to use this codes, so yeah you will need this player.
Windows Media Player 9 and 10 have been around for a while. HD already works good on wmv files. I don't think a new codec upgrade from Microsoft is coming anytime soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

That is what I do on my TV.

There is already HD broadcast in the air. You can pick it up with special antennas. But I would suggest checking out your cable company. I also hear DirecTV offers many HD channels and they're affordable too.

You can already create HD quality wmv files with Windows Media Encoder, for free, as long as you have your input files at HD quality.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/default.aspx

Here is the FAQ on H.264, which is what the new quicktime player is all about:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/techn.../h264/faq.html

Here is the new quicktime player for Windows:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/preview/

Once you get that, you can watch some HD movies here:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/

Here is some sample HD movies for windows media player. You probably don't need to install anything:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tshowcase.aspx

I hope this helps clear things up a bit

Lane · 07-12-2005, 09:55 AM

damn, cant edit my typos after 3 minutes, hehe

code = codec
codes = codec

Cory W · 07-12-2005, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

I Freinds has had that for a year now. It looks good but your computer has to be in top shape to handle it.

Cory, you Mac people kill me with this, "
-How many players will display too date? I only see Quicktime." stuff.

Windows Media Player has been able to handle HD for a couple of years now. No special announcement was necessary to let people know either. That's how IFreinds encodes their clips.

Anyway it goes it will be big once the Dual core systems have a decent level market penetration. As it stands right now, most consumers don't even have enough RAM to make it a option.

I have heard that the Quicktime player is the only one that truley handles it. I am really new to this concept in many ways, so feel free to throw me under the bus.

Now, I think the end-user technology may be a some time off, but the fact is, the ability to create HD is here, affordable and becoming simple. One drives the other

Lane · 07-12-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I have heard that the Quicktime player is the only one that truley handles it.

You heard wrong

AcidMax · 07-12-2005, 10:01 AM

DirecTV has an HD package, but it only has about 7 channels currently.

HBO, Showtime, Universal HD, Discovery HD and a few others. They are in the process of launching new satellites that will provide close to 100 HD channels supposedly by year end. There is a lot of information on DirecTV HD channels, including the good and bad (voice out of sync quite often) because of their compression. I just picked up all the HD stuff over the last month or so and while the HD channels on TV are absolutely amazing, the # of channels is dissapointing still.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Quicktime sucks.

True HD on the net most likely is not true HD.
Just because it is in 16x9.

True HD is 60FPS in either 720p or 1080i depending on what spec your camara is conformed to.

Now think about that for a minute.

What most of you are seeing is not really HD but emulated.
Don't get me wrong its still kick ass no matter what but to call it HD is an insult.

Shot by me.
Sample

Emulated of course and frame rate dropped.

Cory W · 07-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane

Quicktime could always play HD resolution. New Quicktime v7 comes with H.264 codec, which is a very good compression method, which reduces HD movies to reasonable sizes. That's the reason they're featuring HD movies for this new player.

HD can be shot with some new digital camcorders. It can be wide screen or not, which is not a requirement for HD.
Film is chemical, it does not have a certain resolution per se, but it is always higher quality than HD, so it is possible to convert film into HD with special equipment.

You can edit HD movies on PC and Mac with standard editing software.. But it would be very slow if you don't have beefy hardware.

Many channels started offering HD content. They have been archiving their content in HD quality for a while now. I have over 10 HD channels at home.

Incorrect. My cable bill is about $70/month (including basic service too) and I get 10-15 HD channels besides everything else.

Yes, except if the monitor can't display high enough resolution, the movie might be scaled down, losing quality.
For example if you wanna play an HD movie that is 1920x1080, on a 1280x1024 monitor.

Pretty much all players can.
Here is some sample HD movies encoded in Windows Media 9 codec: http://www.wmvhd.com/

Consumer cameras that can shoot HD have been just coming out, but I can't comment on their quality as I don't have the experience. But the professional ones are still expensive.

Definitely. But it will be a slow transition as bandwidth prices drop and hardware improves. If you have a 2 year old PC, you may not be able to play HD movies. Also basic broadband speeds are not fast enough to stream these movies. You can still download them though.
HD movies can range anywhere between 6mbit/sec to 10mbit/sec

Personally I would love to see HD porn. Resolution is high and colors are very crisp.

Again, we already have the players. What the new Quicktime player offers is the new H.264 code (ie. Mpeg-4 Part 10). Since its a good compression method, all quicktime based HD movies are likely to use this codes, so yeah you will need this player.
Windows Media Player 9 and 10 have been around for a while. HD already works good on wmv files. I don't think a new codec upgrade from Microsoft is coming anytime soon.

There is already HD broadcast in the air. You can pick it up with special antennas. But I would suggest checking out your cable company. I also hear DirecTV offers many HD channels and they're affordable too.

You can already create HD quality wmv files with Windows Media Encoder, for free, as long as you have your input files at HD quality.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/default.aspx

Here is the FAQ on H.264, which is what the new quicktime player is all about:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/techn.../h264/faq.html

Here is the new quicktime player for Windows:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/preview/

Once you get that, you can watch some HD movies here:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/

Here is some sample HD movies for windows media player. You probably don't need to install anything:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tshowcase.aspx

I hope this helps clear things up a bit

Where am I? The url bar says GFY, but something must be wrong.

Great post. In regards to software, iMovieHD is now out making editing damn easy. Aside from that, I need to get some work done and I will respond a bit later so keep this bookmarked!

Thanks for the information!

Lane · 07-12-2005, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Quicktime sucks.

True HD on the net most likely is not true HD.
Just because it is in 16x9.

True HD is 60FPS in either 720p or 1080i depending on what spec your camara is conformed to.

Now think about that for a minute.

What most of you are seeing is not really HD but emulated.
Don't get me wrong its still kick ass no matter what but to call it HD is an insult.

Shot by me.
Sample

Emulated of course and frame rate dropped.

Where are you getting your facts from?

Quicktime 7 introduces the H.264 codec, and their HD samples are encoded with this.

Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD technologies are going to use this compression standard, just like DVD's have been using the MPEG-2 compression as a standard.

Za Ha · 07-12-2005, 01:56 PM

WMV HD

See if your computer can handle it

leg4 · 07-12-2005, 02:19 PM

I shoot in HD now... (HDV)... on Sony HDR-FX1 --- the quality is amazing...

I think PORN and other internet stuff would look great... but--- in most cases... most sites aren't even using real good quality SD (Standard Definition) video yet...

I think all these new compression techniques... wmvHD and h.264 will bring HD video to the net very soon.

Like everyone said though, You need 1) fast computer 2) alot of ram 3) fast video card with alot of RAM

Leg Out. Rack Me. 1.

shuki · 07-12-2005, 02:25 PM

What is the best tv on the market today to use with windows xp media center.

I want to get a tv that I can use to replace my computer screens so I want it to be as vivid as it can. Any suggestions on a tv?

pstation · 07-12-2005, 02:30 PM

I dont think we are quite ready for HD over the net yet, bandwidth is the main problem i see right now. For true HD using wmv a 30 minute video comes out to about 1.8gb.

sexxxydesign.com · 07-12-2005, 02:31 PM

i dont think HD porn will be so good.. hardcore doesnt look any better with a lot of detail.. imagine.. you'll be able to see ingrown hair in girls pussies.. mnn caca on guys dicks and all of those small details that Low resolution cameras hide so wonderfully..

Hunter_ST · 07-12-2005, 02:34 PM

Color TV? Who needs color TV?

pornguy · 07-12-2005, 02:35 PM

There is new connection technology that is being tested in several places through out the country that will allow for this to happen. It is Internet over Electrical lines. It will make a T3 look like it is standing still. one article that I read, says that the speed's up and down can go into the tera Byte.

shuki · 07-12-2005, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

There is new connection technology that is being tested in several places through out the country that will allow for this to happen. It is Internet over Electrical lines. It will make a T3 look like it is standing still. one article that I read, says that the speed's up and down can go into the tera Byte.

I remember seeing some articles about this and they showed a video conference as an example. It was amazing. Any links to the technology?

EroticySteve · 07-12-2005, 02:38 PM

HD will spur hardware sales. Clearasil stock will probably go up too, HD has great detail.

smack · 07-12-2005, 02:40 PM

i think one of the immediate effects once it gets very popular will be the need for increased internet speed.

i don't know if news sites will utilize it as much as say educational sites. at least not for a little while.

shuki · 07-12-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroticySteve

Clearasil stock will probably go up too, HD has great detail.

So true!!!

Noe · 07-12-2005, 03:14 PM

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newbreed · 07-12-2005, 03:24 PM

Not to be the party pooper here, but H.264 has been around for a while in the mainstream world, mainly used in surviellance applications. Pelco, Sony, Panasonic have been using it for months if not over a year in hard-disk recorders. It was only a matter of time before the adult market upgraded to it, it was designed and tested for online security video applications, same with H.263.

edit - example, I can sit here in ohio and watch a near-real-time feed in HD using a security camera and high-speed connections, including PTZ control of the camera.

newbreed · 07-12-2005, 03:25 PM

Damn, for that matter, even low-end companies include the option for security recording hardware, like Samsung and COP Systems.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-12-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane

Where are you getting your facts from?

Quicktime 7 introduces the H.264 codec, and their HD samples are encoded with this.

Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD technologies are going to use this compression standard, just like DVD's have been using the MPEG-2 compression as a standard.

Go ahead and watch the file size difference.
Test this out yourself.

Matt 26z · 07-12-2005, 03:40 PM

HD over the internet simply doesn't exist, and won't for many years to come. Anyone offering it is full of BS.

Broadband just isn't fast enough to stream it, and downloading it would take forever. A one hour video at full screen digital TV quality is going to be almost 1 gig in size.

You could certainly pull off a smaller window, but as soon as someone goes full screen it wrecks it.

Would you rather have a small window at HD quality, or full screen at TV quality? We can't even stream full screen TV quality yet, so even thinking about HD is jumping the gun.

Lane · 07-12-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Go ahead and watch the file size difference.
Test this out yourself.

The video you posted is 500 x 280 and compressed to 855 Kbps
Thats nowhere near HD quality.

Here is a video from Microsoft website:

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...gins_1080p.exe

1920 x 816 and 10.38 Mbps

Lane · 07-12-2005, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

HD over the internet simply doesn't exist, and won't for many years to come. Anyone offering it is full of BS.

Broadband just isn't fast enough to stream it, and downloading it would take forever. A one hour video at full screen digital TV quality is going to be almost 1 gig in size.

You could certainly pull off a smaller window, but as soon as someone goes full screen it wrecks it.

Would you rather have a small window at HD quality, or full screen at TV quality? We can't even stream full screen TV quality yet, so even thinking about HD is jumping the gun.

You are incorrect sir.

HD over the internet exists:

http://www.wmvhd.com/
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/

most movies are over 6mbit. My cable connection is 5mbit.. Not fast enough to stream it, but way enough for downloading.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-12-2005, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane

The video you posted is 500 x 280 and compressed to 855 Kbps
Thats nowhere near HD quality.

Here is a video from Microsoft website:

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...gins_1080p.exe

1920 x 816 and 10.38 Mbps

I also said it was emulated ya fucken idiot.
And in that my rendition of wide screen formated video on the net is very plausible and remain affordable.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-12-2005, 04:21 PM

ialien LLC. does shoot in HD and will do custom shoots in HD.

Encoding, Editing to finished product.

Cypress Hill

leg4 · 07-12-2005, 04:26 PM

I would wait for a 1gig hour HD video file...

And I think a ton of other people would also...

-- The Medium is The Message --

..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-12-2005, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4

I would wait for a 1gig hour HD video file...

And I think a ton of other people would also...

-- The Medium is The Message --

..

The history of the net has definatly proven this to be true.

pstation · 07-12-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4

I would wait for a 1gig hour HD video file...

And I think a ton of other people would also...

-- The Medium is The Message --

..

it's usually higher than that with true HD, in my experience 30 minutes of 720p has been 1.8GB, 1080p would be a higher than that as well.

Lane · 07-12-2005, 04:38 PM

HD movies can be up to 1mbyte per sec or more

So u get 3 to 5 gigs per hour.

leg4 · 07-12-2005, 04:48 PM

HDV is 13gigs per 1hour... just like DV

wmvHD is about 5to1 compression on that, approx

leg4 · 07-12-2005, 04:48 PM

I'd wait for a 2.5gig 1 hour video file...

And I think alot of other people would also...

--> The Medium is The Message <--

\

VeriSexy · 07-12-2005, 04:50 PM

Sad thing is most people are still on dialup and seems like mostly countrys in Asia have 100mbps internet

4Pics · 07-12-2005, 05:52 PM

Can someone explain how a 4.7 gig dvd movie is only 720x480p while you are saying hd is even larger, so shouldn't it be even a bigger file size?

I can post a video I downloaded a while back when I get of the best videos i've seen, I believe they were from Cybererotica in their version of HD.

Lane · 07-12-2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Pics

Can someone explain how a 4.7 gig dvd movie is only 720x480p while you are saying hd is even larger, so shouldn't it be even a bigger file size?

I can post a video I downloaded a while back when I get of the best videos i've seen, I believe they were from Cybererotica in their version of HD.

DVD uses MPEG-2 compression, which is a very old technology now.

New compression methods, WMV9 and H.264 (Mpeg-4 Part 10), compress much better.

Mayor · 07-12-2005, 07:13 PM

I am not going to say anything. I will let these clips speak for themselves.

You will need to "Right Click" and "Save As" These clips are too large to stream.

www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/480p.wmv size:6.85 MB res:852X480
www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/720p.wmv size:13.5 MB res:1280X720
www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/1080.wmv size:21.8 MB res:1920X1080

Cory W · 07-12-2005, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4

I would wait for a 1gig hour HD video file...

And I think a ton of other people would also...

-- The Medium is The Message --

..

I agree. Hell, look at the average size of a harddrive on a new laptop these days, storage is slowly becoming less and less an issue. Time is beset on speed, but it can run in the background.

I am looking at the marketing angle which will accomodate expectations. Essentially, people just expect the quality no matter if they are viewing porn or the news.

Cory W · 07-12-2005, 08:11 PM

People saying true HD can't exist on the net are wrong IMO. It may not be true if you are gauging it from a TV feed, but I doubt that happens. It will be gauged on a Net expectation.

Mayor · 07-12-2005, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

HD over the internet simply doesn't exist, and won't for many years to come. Anyone offering it is full of BS.

Broadband just isn't fast enough to stream it, and downloading it would take forever. A one hour video at full screen digital TV quality is going to be almost 1 gig in size.

You could certainly pull off a smaller window, but as soon as someone goes full screen it wrecks it.

Would you rather have a small window at HD quality, or full screen at TV quality? We can't even stream full screen TV quality yet, so even thinking about HD is jumping the gun.

You are totally incorrect

A new adult program is launching with ALL HD sites in less than a week

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-13-2005, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayor

I am not going to say anything. I will let these clips speak for themselves.

You will need to "Right Click" and "Save As" These clips are too large to stream.

www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/480p.wmv size:6.85 MB res:852X480
www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/720p.wmv size:13.5 MB res:1280X720
www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/1080.wmv size:21.8 MB res:1920X1080

Speechless

Priceless

Fucken ehhh.

07-12-2005, 08:07 AM	#1
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	What do you think HD on the Internet will do for mainstream? Consumers can now get a free upgrade to Quicktime HD, and if the reel was shot out of an HD camera, they can view full (wide) screen in HD quality. I am not sure how things work with the PC, but my Mac has software that will import the reel and cut it up. Lowend software all the same, but still something to consider. I took a tutorial on it (shooting, importing, cutting). Now, I could be aloof to things, but I haven't noticed many pitching the concept. In other words, "CNN.com is now in HD..." Sites like IFilm offering movies in HD. Thing is, HD from your cable company requires a minimum of around $1200 considering you have to have the HD ready TV. Now the Internet can make it free. -Do all monitors accept the feed? -How many players will display too date? I only see Quicktime. Now, for shooting basic web content, you can buy the camera for around $2600. That camera is expensive, but it shoots professional footage. It is a huge camera. Sony has in the works a mini-HD cam, similar to the ones a lot of us run around with. This will go for $2k (which in my opinion will begin the massive price drop). Will this effect the web? Adult? I tend to think not, but might as well throw it in there. Will consumers want to view porn in HD? Mainstream content? Once you have the players installed, are you going to search out this type of content? That is what I do on my TV. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

07-12-2005, 09:20 AM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	I believe iFriends now offers a few of their girls shows in HD as well now. But I imagine you'd need an uberfast modem and equivalent processing power to handle the feed. I imagine it won't hit the mass market for at least 1-2 years if ever. WG __________________ I play with Google.

07-12-2005, 09:26 AM	#4
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I Freinds has had that for a year now. It looks good but your computer has to be in top shape to handle it. Cory, you Mac people kill me with this, " -How many players will display too date? I only see Quicktime." stuff. Windows Media Player has been able to handle HD for a couple of years now. No special announcement was necessary to let people know either. That's how IFreinds encodes their clips. Anyway it goes it will be big once the Dual core systems have a decent level market penetration. As it stands right now, most consumers don't even have enough RAM to make it a option. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

07-12-2005, 09:37 AM	#5
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	I think the 1-2 year predictions is a bit off. Not saying anything on you, just saying from some of the nimbrods that e-mail me (most aol users) I would bet these tools are a good 5 years off of just about any new technology, including taking care of their tooth. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

07-12-2005, 09:55 AM	#8
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	damn, cant edit my typos after 3 minutes, hehe code = codec codes = codec __________________

07-12-2005, 10:01 AM	#11
AcidMax Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MI Posts: 1,827	DirecTV has an HD package, but it only has about 7 channels currently. HBO, Showtime, Universal HD, Discovery HD and a few others. They are in the process of launching new satellites that will provide close to 100 HD channels supposedly by year end. There is a lot of information on DirecTV HD channels, including the good and bad (voice out of sync quite often) because of their compression. I just picked up all the HD stuff over the last month or so and while the HD channels on TV are absolutely amazing, the # of channels is dissapointing still. __________________ Latest MMA news. http://www.mmawrapup.com

07-12-2005, 10:01 AM	#12
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Quicktime sucks. True HD on the net most likely is not true HD. Just because it is in 16x9. True HD is 60FPS in either 720p or 1080i depending on what spec your camara is conformed to. Now think about that for a minute. What most of you are seeing is not really HD but emulated. Don't get me wrong its still kick ass no matter what but to call it HD is an insult. Shot by me. Sample Emulated of course and frame rate dropped. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 07-12-2005 at 10:03 AM..

07-12-2005, 01:56 PM	#15
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	WMV HD See if your computer can handle it

07-12-2005, 02:19 PM	#16
leg4 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 4,429	I shoot in HD now... (HDV)... on Sony HDR-FX1 --- the quality is amazing... I think PORN and other internet stuff would look great... but--- in most cases... most sites aren't even using real good quality SD (Standard Definition) video yet... I think all these new compression techniques... wmvHD and h.264 will bring HD video to the net very soon. Like everyone said though, You need 1) fast computer 2) alot of ram 3) fast video card with alot of RAM Leg Out. Rack Me. 1. __________________ >>> Contact me here email me here

07-12-2005, 02:25 PM	#17
shuki Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 3,070	What is the best tv on the market today to use with windows xp media center. I want to get a tv that I can use to replace my computer screens so I want it to be as vivid as it can. Any suggestions on a tv? __________________ Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

07-12-2005, 02:30 PM	#18
pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	I dont think we are quite ready for HD over the net yet, bandwidth is the main problem i see right now. For true HD using wmv a 30 minute video comes out to about 1.8gb.

07-12-2005, 02:31 PM	#19
sexxxydesign.com Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Argentina Posts: 1,281	i dont think HD porn will be so good.. hardcore doesnt look any better with a lot of detail.. imagine.. you'll be able to see ingrown hair in girls pussies.. mnn caca on guys dicks and all of those small details that Low resolution cameras hide so wonderfully.. __________________ Quality Adult Design www.sexxxydesign.com ICQ 322-815-380

07-12-2005, 02:34 PM	#20
Hunter_ST Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Getting messy... Posts: 763	Color TV? Who needs color TV? __________________ Splosh Cash Wet and Messy Fetish Program I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

07-12-2005, 02:35 PM	#21
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	There is new connection technology that is being tested in several places through out the country that will allow for this to happen. It is Internet over Electrical lines. It will make a T3 look like it is standing still. one article that I read, says that the speed's up and down can go into the tera Byte. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-12-2005, 02:38 PM	#23
EroticySteve Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 4,365	HD will spur hardware sales. Clearasil stock will probably go up too, HD has great detail. __________________ You deserve to make more money. I'll help you do that. Our affiliates earn up to $3/email or $107/sale email steve <at> eroticy.com - icq 290153464

07-12-2005, 02:40 PM	#24
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	i think one of the immediate effects once it gets very popular will be the need for increased internet speed. i don't know if news sites will utilize it as much as say educational sites. at least not for a little while. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

07-12-2005, 03:14 PM	#26
Noe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,082	EXTREME FEEDS We offer a high definition feed for our customers, and it's the most popular feed with members right now. These are videos encoded from true HD DVDS. Of course, it's impossible to stream true HD now, but our HD stuff is the highest quality available. The encoding process is expensive, but when you see the quality you can appreciate why members love it.

07-12-2005, 03:24 PM	#27
newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	Not to be the party pooper here, but H.264 has been around for a while in the mainstream world, mainly used in surviellance applications. Pelco, Sony, Panasonic have been using it for months if not over a year in hard-disk recorders. It was only a matter of time before the adult market upgraded to it, it was designed and tested for online security video applications, same with H.263. edit - example, I can sit here in ohio and watch a near-real-time feed in HD using a security camera and high-speed connections, including PTZ control of the camera. __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before Last edited by newbreed; 07-12-2005 at 03:27 PM..

07-12-2005, 03:25 PM	#28
newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	Damn, for that matter, even low-end companies include the option for security recording hardware, like Samsung and COP Systems. __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

07-12-2005, 03:40 PM	#30
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	HD over the internet simply doesn't exist, and won't for many years to come. Anyone offering it is full of BS. Broadband just isn't fast enough to stream it, and downloading it would take forever. A one hour video at full screen digital TV quality is going to be almost 1 gig in size. You could certainly pull off a smaller window, but as soon as someone goes full screen it wrecks it. Would you rather have a small window at HD quality, or full screen at TV quality? We can't even stream full screen TV quality yet, so even thinking about HD is jumping the gun.

07-12-2005, 04:21 PM	#34
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	ialien LLC. does shoot in HD and will do custom shoots in HD. Encoding, Editing to finished product. Cypress Hill __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-12-2005, 04:26 PM	#35
leg4 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 4,429	I would wait for a 1gig hour HD video file... And I think a ton of other people would also... -- The Medium is The Message -- .. __________________ >>> Contact me here email me here

07-12-2005, 04:38 PM	#38
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	HD movies can be up to 1mbyte per sec or more So u get 3 to 5 gigs per hour. __________________

07-12-2005, 04:48 PM	#39
leg4 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 4,429	HDV is 13gigs per 1hour... just like DV wmvHD is about 5to1 compression on that, approx __________________ >>> Contact me here email me here

07-12-2005, 04:50 PM	#41
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Sad thing is most people are still on dialup and seems like mostly countrys in Asia have 100mbps internet __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

07-12-2005, 05:52 PM	#42
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Can someone explain how a 4.7 gig dvd movie is only 720x480p while you are saying hd is even larger, so shouldn't it be even a bigger file size? I can post a video I downloaded a while back when I get of the best videos i've seen, I believe they were from Cybererotica in their version of HD.

07-12-2005, 07:13 PM	#44
Mayor Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 497	I am not going to say anything. I will let these clips speak for themselves. You will need to "Right Click" and "Save As" These clips are too large to stream. www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/480p.wmv size:6.85 MB res:852X480 www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/720p.wmv size:13.5 MB res:1280X720 www.mayorsmoney.com/hdsample/1080.wmv size:21.8 MB res:1920X1080

07-12-2005, 08:11 PM	#46
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	People saying true HD can't exist on the net are wrong IMO. It may not be true if you are gauging it from a TV feed, but I doubt that happens. It will be gauged on a Net expectation. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments