++ OPERA lies about being named PC World best browser 2005? ++ - GoFuckYourself.com

loverboy · 07-12-2005, 12:12 PM

Opera Software seems to have decided that it's easier lie that to win. Here's the chain of events as best as I can tell.

PC World announced their 100 Best Products of 2005.

Firefox not only won the coveted Product of the Year award, sweeping all 99 other products in the list, but it beat out two other browsers, Maxthon at number 12 and Opera way down at number 88.

Opera puts out a press release claiming "A Winning Streak: Opera once again wins PC World's World Class Award for best Web browser". Opera.com then places this same thing on their front page (see the third checkbox with the claim that they've won best browser in '05.)

Conclusion: Opera is simply lying. They were one of 100 products to be labeled as "World Class" but they did not win any "best Web browser" anything. They were last in the ranking of three web browsers. They got beat by both Maxthon and Firefox.

excerpts from: http://channels.lockergnome.com/web/..._browser.phtml
related article: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5740879.html

loverboy · 07-12-2005, 12:13 PM

PC World's best products of 2005 award is available at:
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...3,pg,12,00.asp

loverboy · 07-12-2005, 12:16 PM

Screenshot of Opera.com taken June 8, 2005

OWNED

vvq · 07-12-2005, 12:40 PM

Opera sucks

aico · 07-12-2005, 12:43 PM

Maybe they were hoping that by the time Opera actually started up on people computers they'd have the problem fixed...

Buddy · 07-12-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverboy

Screenshot of Opera.com taken June 8, 2005

OWNED

Hey, what firefox skin is that? It's pretty sweet.

Doctor Dre · 07-12-2005, 12:47 PM

Sooooooo owned

nofx · 07-12-2005, 12:54 PM

hahahahaha

loverboy · 07-12-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Maybe they were hoping that by the time Opera actually started up on people computers they'd have the problem fixed...

Opera is a company, they hire marketing people, marketing people lie. I don't think this is necessarily reflective of the company as a whole, but rather they just hire stupid marketing people.

loverboy · 07-12-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy

Hey, what firefox skin is that? It's pretty sweet.

ive checked FF site themes but can't find. ended up installing Modern PinBall 1.0.6.. highly recommended

Babaganoosh · 07-12-2005, 01:29 PM

++ Why do you "decorate" all of your thread titles? ++

loverboy · 07-12-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

++ Why do you "decorate" all of your thread titles? ++

dunno, started this a couple of months.
something that isolates me from useless threads
just wanted to be different

Babaganoosh · 07-12-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverboy

dunno, started this a couple of months.
something that isolates me from useless threads
just wanted to be different

I can appreciate wanting to be different.

TheDoc · 07-12-2005, 03:02 PM

"best browser award" and "the best or #1 browser" is different. They probably did receive a best browser award but not the #1 browser. Marketing.. clean and clear.

Manowar · 07-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loverboy

Screenshot of Opera.com taken June 8, 2005

OWNED

loverboy · 07-13-2005, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

"best browser award" and "the best or #1 browser" is different. They probably did receive a best browser award but not the #1 browser. Marketing.. clean and clear.

It clearly says received best browser award in 05 on the Opera homepage. If its a mistake on their part its a pretty big, and stupid, one. If its deliberate, then shame on them. I'm a Firefox user but still respected Opera as a browser and a company.

wallst · 07-13-2005, 08:02 AM

Opera is the bomb - dont diss on the browser because of its name.

tranza · 07-13-2005, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy

Hey, what firefox skin is that? It's pretty sweet.

I think that's Opera?

llporter · 07-13-2005, 08:04 AM

Lie or no lie - I still love my Opera

Dalai lama · 07-13-2005, 08:04 AM

FireFox rocks

smutx · 07-13-2005, 08:36 AM

ROFL! dude looks like a power ranger btw for you firefox lovers like myself... http://quirk.co.za/searchstatus/ its a alexa and googlepage rank addon

CheneyRumsfeld · 07-13-2005, 08:39 AM

Well if Opera is number 1 then we have to get started writing exploits for it.
spyware/adware/trojans/virus/ and more.
can't let a good thing like this go by.
exploiting number 1 is where it is at.

loverboy · 07-13-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutx

ROFL! dude looks like a power ranger btw for you firefox lovers like myself... http://quirk.co.za/searchstatus/ its a alexa and googlepage rank addon

nice find and thanks for sharing
im sure lots of webmasters here would find it very much useful

Dagwolf · 07-13-2005, 10:45 AM

Well, it IS easier to lie than to win!

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loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	++ OPERA lies about being named PC World best browser 2005? ++ Opera Software seems to have decided that it's easier lie that to win. Here's the chain of events as best as I can tell. PC World announced their 100 Best Products of 2005. Firefox not only won the coveted Product of the Year award, sweeping all 99 other products in the list, but it beat out two other browsers, Maxthon at number 12 and Opera way down at number 88. Opera puts out a press release claiming "A Winning Streak: Opera once again wins PC World's World Class Award for best Web browser". Opera.com then places this same thing on their front page (see the third checkbox with the claim that they've won best browser in '05.) Conclusion: Opera is simply lying. They were one of 100 products to be labeled as "World Class" but they did not win any "best Web browser" anything. They were last in the ranking of three web browsers. They got beat by both Maxthon and Firefox. excerpts from: http://channels.lockergnome.com/web/..._browser.phtml related article: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5740879.html

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loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	PC World's best products of 2005 award is available at: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...3,pg,12,00.asp

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loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	Screenshot of Opera.com taken June 8, 2005 OWNED

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CheneyRumsfeld Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,341	Well if Opera is number 1 then we have to get started writing exploits for it. spyware/adware/trojans/virus/ and more. can't let a good thing like this go by. exploiting number 1 is where it is at.

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