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Old 07-12-2005, 09:47 AM   #1
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:mad TGP owners have unbelievable patience!!

I can not believe the amout of idiot gallery posters I get.

About 40% either do not have any recips, have no 2257 link or information, or my text link is the same color as their gallery background.

the very nice professional galleries that have no recips on them, should I just blacklist them now? In my rules for submitting galleries it is extremely clear that they need to have my recip plus other TGP's recips. Are they just spamming to see if they can get one listed?

anyway the shoe is one the other foot, since I was a paysite owner then added gallery posting to my daily efforts.

God bless the TGP owners patience beyond belief.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:50 AM   #2
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Doesn't test my patience when I hit the reject button.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:50 AM   #3
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About 40% either do not have any recips, have no 2257 link or information, or my text link is the same color as their gallery background.

Umm...

Patience?
No.

They do not give a shit.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:52 AM   #4
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About 40% either do not have any recips, have no 2257 link or information, or my text link is the same color as their gallery background.

Umm...

Patience?
No.

They do not give a shit.
We know you can read. Guess you just have to work on comprehending.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:52 AM   #5
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or get a good script to filter the shit.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:55 AM   #6
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LOL I bet most of these TGP's are operated by EU, Australian and Russian guys. They don't care about 2257 because they have THEIR OWN laws. Do you follow to Chinese laws? I think no... So why non-US citizens should follow 2257?
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:56 AM   #7
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2257 script should be ready next week

I still don't know how some sites get around the recip part.

I have looked at their source code and can not find a debbienomad.com/tgp/ anywhere. When I tried to submit any gallery of my own that did not have the correct recip it caught it.
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Doesn't anyone know the difference between a TGP owner and a TGP poster?
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you need to get new script to reject these galleries automatially
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:56 AM   #10
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Script filter's most of it out.

But yeah, you'd be suprised if you look at half the shit overseas folk submit. Dialer pop up hell would be a good description.



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Old 07-12-2005, 09:57 AM   #11
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As about your recips... Just don't accept those galleris at all. Why making such a panic???
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:58 AM   #12
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hehe fun aint it?
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:58 AM   #13
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is that a trick question?

I am now both.

I have a great fear of losing any of my partner accounts and would never take a chance with my galleries.
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is that a trick question?

I am now both.

I have a great fear of losing any of my partner accounts and would never take a chance with my galleries.
Nah...you were cool. You were talking about TGP owners having patience and people like AlienQ, who can't comprehend were responding as if you were referring to gallery submitters.
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debbieN: BTW dude, I see alot of explicit thumbs at your TGP site, BUT(!) there is no 2257 link! Aren't you live in the USA? Don't you think the DOJ guys may decide to make a visit to you?..
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You think people sit there and check if your recip link and a few others are ok with the tgp design?

Its all generated with software, for 3000 tgp sites at a time, noone sits there and cares about what your submit page says or does, and noone even see's it. Amazes me how many people still put banners and waste time on submit pages

The generation software also has traffic ratings which determining how much traffic they update the database and then you get links from more respectable TGP's in which case they might review before submitting, if your sending 50 hits a day, then don't expect much love.. if you are sending 150k a day, then they might review the page prior and adjust if neccessary.

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Old 07-12-2005, 10:17 AM   #17
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from recent discussions with people who are much more up on this than I could ever be they said the following:

1. if I have copies of the sponsor 2257 info on file at my office for each gallery that is posted on my site

2. if the galleries that are on my tgp have links to their custodian 2257 records

then the corresponding picture that goes with the gallery that has the information on it is covered.

I could be wrong but I trust their advice so far.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:24 AM   #18
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from recent discussions with people who are much more up on this than I could ever be they said the following:

1. if I have copies of the sponsor 2257 info on file at my office for each gallery that is posted on my site

2. if the galleries that are on my tgp have links to their custodian 2257 records

then the corresponding picture that goes with the gallery that has the information on it is covered.

I could be wrong but I trust their advice so far.
And... you are totally wrong with it. Actually there is no need to ask other people at all. Just read 2257 very carefully taking into account that DOJ will consider you as a secondary provider.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #19
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Nice quote for the reciprocal part:

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Without people submitting I would have nothing to link to, so I don't think it's fair that I use your bandwidth and demand a reciprocal as well.
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Nice quote for the reciprocal part:
Not actually correct because he my take as many free hosted galleries as he need to fill up his TGP. For instance, just take a look at my FHG Store - there are over 100,000 hosted galleries in the list. That's more than enough to beat even thehun
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:41 AM   #21
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Well guess what... that was a Hun's quote.
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Well guess what... that was a Hun's quote.
So what?
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I just don't think he has troubles filling his page.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:02 AM   #24
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now have a look at my stats:

all domains: 18.533
banned domains: 15.644

i have a pool of over 900.000 valid galleries, now think of this:
those who have banned domains still try to submit several galleries a day, try to imagine the volume of all daily submissions.
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If you have that many submitters, you have a lot of visitors.
If you have a lot of visitors, you make a lot of money.
If you make a lot of money, you have got tons of work to be done.

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Old 07-12-2005, 11:09 AM   #26
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Humm.. yeah.. about that 2257 stuff...

if the guy hosting the gallery isn't in the USA, they don't need a link to 2257 info... nor do you need them to provide one.. and in fact, it may be against the rules of their country to provide them

however, if you host an explicit thumb for their gallery, then you do need the 2257 info on hand.. and not just a link to the provider's custodian of records...

at least, that's how I understand it
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There ya go Debbie, setup a trade with you and will force some traffic your way. Good luck!


BTW, your site looks nice 'n clean!
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if you host an explicit thumb for their gallery, then you do need the 2257 info on hand.. and not just a link to the provider's custodian of records...
Exactly!
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LOL I bet most of these TGP's are operated by EU, Australian and Russian guys. They don't care about 2257 because they have THEIR OWN laws. Do you follow to Chinese laws? I think no... So why non-US citizens should follow 2257?
Exactly, not to mention that doing what 2257 wants goes agaisn't many privacy laws in European countrys...
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