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VeriSexy 07-10-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon
if you think all the programs that say they are paying 40/signup actually ARE then u really ARE a noob :1orglaugh - but even those that pay legitimately simply have a formula the know works with an arsenal of sites that attract a volume of traffic where the expense of PPS isn't a problem.

the only thing the affiliate should be deciding is what they should do with their traffic based on the type of traffic they have & how they feel it will perform with a particular site. often u r getting fucked on a PPS deal but you're happy cuz u like seeing "$30" for that 1 signup (even though u may have sent 3). you basically are saying you want the paysite owner to take all the risk & you take the money & run. no wonder so many programs DO shave :2 cents:




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I have always made way more money with PPS and I think I remember some people getting caught shaving revshare....... :disgust

ULVideo 07-10-2005 08:38 PM

As someone who has a new program I can tell you that our recent experience is that it seems very few will trust a new program that is PPS. everyone wants to see you pay out for months first before they sign on. It seems easier with revshare to get webmasters to sign on. perhaps it's very differnt for prograqm that are older. I'll let you know when our new program gets there.

VeriSexy 07-10-2005 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike_J
Well guess you haven't promoted the right sites or there's a difference in the quality of traffic we have.

If you do thousands of sales a year with 7-8 EXCELLENT revshare sites and they make anywhere from $50-$60+ per sale average then it's pretty easy for me to decide where I send my traffic.

Don't get me wrong I do promote PPS too on general traffic but from my experience if you have targeted traffic you will do way better with a good revshare site :2 cents:

Btw, post count means shit, i'm in the adult biz since '99


List some sites that customers keep rebilling to... Those sites are very hard to find now............... :( I rather get paid up front and have the program owner worry about people rebilling...... :winkwink:

Forkbeard 07-10-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako
The bottom line is that if you're a pro, a true ace in the business, you don't WANT to offer revshare. You LOSE money that way as a sponsor. You WANT the affiliate to hem and haw about their immediate gratification PPS program, and miniscule $35 payout, because the sooner you pay their asses off for the join they send, at $35 or whatever, the better.

That's exactly how I feel about it from the flip side as an affiliate. I look high and low for quality sites that will hold their members, and then I want my share of the long term business. From day one in this business, I've considered PPS offers to be sucker plays.

Persignup Qon 07-10-2005 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
even if they are shaving many guys still wind up making more with pps vs revshare

how would you know that if you are getting shaved? :eek7 :1orglaugh





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fris 07-10-2005 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by synapse
We're paying up to $50 per join or 50/50 revshare you decide :thumbsup

do you h ave interracial cams, or i can link to interracial cams?

Mack 07-10-2005 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy
List some sites that customers keep rebilling to... Those sites are very hard to find now............... :( I rather get paid up front and have the program owner worry about people rebilling...... :winkwink:


I could give you the song and dance, I'll spare us both. Our rebills for our affilaites are among the best in the history of the biz.

If your not promoting us, give us a try and see for yourself. And if youi need anything let me know.

PPS or Revshare at the end of the day people have trouble with rebills because their members area is void of quality content to satisfy a member. And they do not update nearly enough. When I promoted sites as a w/m full time I learned to look into members areas, and decide if I would be willing to shell out $$$$$$ to become and/or stay a member. If I looked into the site and did not see value for the $ I didn't promote it. I don't care if they were paying 80 per sign up. If a company will fuck a surfer, they will fuck you too, it's really that simple.

There are excellent PPS and Revshare programs, people just need to get back to doing their homework and not be so dependant of someone else telling them what is great, when in reality everyone wants the 5% ref bonus and could give a shit about YOUR traffic.

Most in our game can talk a good talk. Thats what we do, we are sales people. Take a look under the hood and decide for yourself.

venus 07-10-2005 10:58 PM

ya I wonder if the FTC freezing a few sites assets had anything to do with things :)

Rebills do tend to go down when your forced to be honest by the FTC


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Originally Posted by VeriSexy
I guess times have changed and people just don't rebill as much as they use to.
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datatank 07-10-2005 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by venus
ya I wonder if the FTC freezing a few sites assets had anything to do with things :)

Rebills do tend to go down when your forced to be honest by the FTC

Who are you talking about?
I think its of general opinion rebills and trial to full activation has been dropping over the last few years..

webgurl 07-10-2005 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike_J

Btw, post count means shit, i'm in the adult biz since '99

yep and u were even on GFY before him :1orglaugh :1orglaugh I luv the guys who think postcounts mean shit :2 cents:

woj 07-10-2005 11:06 PM

50.........

datatank 07-10-2005 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
50.........



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FUCKuPAYme 07-10-2005 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

LOL you beat me to it they haver both PPS and revshare and convert amazing

FUCKuPAYme 07-10-2005 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar
Yep, ran by the guys behind PornKings

they are solid I know of 4 other webmasters doing great with them.
Roger knows his shit

bigdog 07-11-2005 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon
how would you know that if you are getting shaved? :eek7 :1orglaugh





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doesn't matter because the pps checks are still bigger then the revshare checks

VeriSexy 07-11-2005 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by venus
ya I wonder if the FTC freezing a few sites assets had anything to do with things :)

Rebills do tend to go down when your forced to be honest by the FTC


Who did this happen to??? :helpme

pornguy 07-11-2005 12:17 AM

It never really was a good idea to pay 30+ dollars in a 4$ sign up.

FUCKuPAYme 07-11-2005 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FUCKuPAYme
they are solid I know of 4 other webmasters doing great with them.
Roger knows his shit


also I look at every little thing down to the join page its tight and worded perfect. wonder why the company name is ATM virtual :1orglaugh bet its gonna rebill well


Roger always thinkin :winkwink: and I'm sure many will copy his new stuff

venus 07-11-2005 12:55 AM

several big sites who run big programs.

from what the big sites were quoted as saying, they were fucked over by the webmasters, they were not at fault but their affiliates were the reasons behind the problems. this is what one site said.

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Who did this happen to??? :helpme


3piece chicken Dinner 07-11-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FUCKuPAYme
also I look at every little thing down to the join page its tight and worded perfect. wonder why the company name is ATM virtual :1orglaugh bet its gonna rebill well


Roger always thinkin :winkwink: and I'm sure many will copy his new stuff


YO! why not make that sig clickable. :winkwink:

venus 07-11-2005 12:57 AM

thats why my company vcomm internet service ... looks just like any other ISP
people see ccbill and ibill on their statement and they know what its for :)

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Originally Posted by FUCKuPAYme
wonder why the company name is ATM virtual :1orglaugh bet its gonna rebill well


venus 07-11-2005 12:58 AM

because he looks at every little thing...just not that little thing
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by 3piece chicken Dinner
YO! why not make that sig clickable. :winkwink:


VeriSexy 07-11-2005 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy
It never really was a good idea to pay 30+ dollars in a 4$ sign up.


Sponsors use to pay that much on free signsups but people use to rebill a average of 3-4 months. Now things are very different and sponsors don't make enough effort to make the members stay............... :Oh crap

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