No use arguing with this guy. I know little in comparison to most everyone in this thread and still have forgotten more then he knows about our field. If not, it sure seems that why based on his comments.

Until he (Seniorx)post his images for comparison its all meaningless babble.


It was an interesting thread.

:)

Finally another photographer joins the fray. Very intelligent post, for those who understand.

excellent post - lots of truth here :thumbsup

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tight pussy i like

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Plenty of good posts here...

Just some question to ppl who said that they don't need PS. Do you think that modles have perfect bodies? If your answer is yes, than I'm sure that you don't work "in" this industry, you are surfer...
Makeup artist, clothes, me as photographer, and PS makes her perfect.
If your camera makes "perfect" pics withotu PS, then it isn't only camera it is plastic suregon as well.
C'mon stop with BS! You can make "amateur" photo without PS, but glamour photo without PS is impossilbe. Period!

OK, this tread is useless without pics ;)

f4 - focus on face
http://www.mikescontent.com/inside/m.../p6015561x.jpg

f5.6 - focus on hair
http://www.mikescontent.com/inside/s...52318842fx.jpg

f6.3 - focus on eyes
http://www.mikescontent.com/inside/s...p52434722x.jpg

Enjoy

Very nice images!

Mike B

thank you mike . . . BTW the photography advice and input being offered here, with one or two exceptions, is about on the level of the porno advice offered up on the camera boards . . . bmb

Oh, and I forgot to answer on that question
Though I'm not one of those shooters (..These are the kind of shooters I am referring to...) ;)

I don't crop after shooting. I use PS on daily basis, not for cropping, I'm giving my best to make good composition during shooting, less work for me :)

OK, I took this less then an hour ago, its part of a set of 100 images. All of which were cropped in camera and no photoshop or enhancements were done to this images. All I did was resize it so I could post. Shot at f5, but I wanted the eyes more then the feet. :winkwink:

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples/kate.JPG

natural beauty is always better :thumbsup

see, and the picture, imho, isn't perfect. I'd be in there whiting out her teeth for one...and fixing her eyes.

If we're talking just crop, what you have is nice.

Well no one is perfect and I dont see the point in making them perfect either, well unless its a glaring flaw and at that point, why are they being shot anyways? I shoot teen amateur girls and 9 out of 10 of them are as near perfect as one can get I guess. Ive never needed or used photoshop nor do my client do any heavy photoshop work on my images with the exception of tour shots (made into graphics) now and then.

Its a great tool for those that need it. I don't. Its not because Im a good shooter because in comparison to many in this thread, I suck. Its a time issue and a need issue. The time required, outweights the need. For me anyways.

:)

I don't know about eyes and teeth, but I would fix those shadows first ;)
j/k

I'm not used on resolution like 798x1200 with which camera you made this photo? Also, with combination of PS and maybe something other, you will make that pic atleast twice smaller (now it is 600kb, which is for 798x1200 inside photo too big)...
Also, you put one pic with only her eyes in focus, young girls are mostly cute that isn't a point, but each of them has some problem in lower part of body. You want to tell me that you would deliver photo with big pimple on her ass?
And... why to make them perfect? Because pic can't be perfect if model isn't perfect. And if I work I want to be as close to perfect as it is possible.
But... I understand your point...

how many sets of 100 do you shoot in an hr? most clients won't except sets of 100, need about 120+

It was a fast resize shot at 2000x3008 on a Nikon D70... my backup camera.

As for the other comments you made... either you didnt read my post or you didnt get it, one of the two.

This isnt a pissing match at all. All I was saying is that I do not need to have photoshop in my tool chest. I dont use it for cropping and i dont use it for retouching. I do not do any post production work on my photos. I have not needed to.... if its that god aweful bad that it needs cleaning, its deleted. Plastic looking girls will not make my clients happy, real and natural girls do.. pimples, freckles and all. :winkwink:

As long as my clients are thrilled, which given my work load its clear they are, im happy. I have no one to please, but them.

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My pricing structure calls for 100 images per set. I always deliver far more then that... in the 150 range. As far as how many sets can I shoot an hour.. it depends on the model, location and content of the shoot. I'm profitable, thats all that matter. :winkwink:

I think this thread fascinating, but I find myself disagreeing with some people here.

Now, I'm no photographer, but I do have a basic understanding of photography and I deal with very high-end glamour photography so I know what's good and what's not.

To me, just being able to take a photograph properly doesn't make a good photographer. With some good basic equipment, anyone with basic photography knowledge (such as myself) should be able to take a quality photograph (properly lit, in focus, cropped perfectly, etc). That's the EAST part of taking a picture (funny, some "photographers" can't even seem to get that right).

A TRUE photographer has the creativity to fill out the photograph: the backdrop, the backlighting, the pose(s), etc. THAT'S where good photographers are defined (at least by me).

As far as Photoshop goes, sure, every image SHOULD be touched up in PhotoShop, but not because of anything the photographer does. Color, lighting or cropping shouldn't be a part of the post-production. You might pump up some colors in the backdrop, touch up blemishes or reduce some wrinkles/bags/whatever, but that's nothing the photographer could have fixed before or during the picture.

I see people posting shit pictures all the time on GFY and it makes me laugh. There are really only a handful of GOOD photographers (such as Dean Capture, AaronM, among others) here: people that know how to light, know how to pose, know how to frame, and how to really make a beautiful photograph, and I guarentee you, they didn't do it in Photoshop.

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Great post.