CCBill stats - does this look strange to you? - GoFuckYourself.com

maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 03:40 AM

I thought I show you some funny (NOT!) stats from my CCBill sites on two successive days in June. Same traffic, more or less same amount of visitors, same sites promoted. Does this look right to you?

Dalai lama · 07-10-2005, 03:41 AM

Talk to your sponsor about it, looks strange indeed

maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 03:43 AM

It's a variety of sponsors, so the problem must rather be on CCBill's side.

Corleone · 07-10-2005, 03:45 AM

hmm 0:13000
1: 792 the other day

weird

Gottis · 07-10-2005, 04:20 AM

That happens every now and then, ain't nothing you can do sorry

chadglni · 07-10-2005, 04:25 AM

Welcome to the world of the scrub that doesn't exist. CCBill and the webmasters that use them are awesome at denying the fact. So much so that I would believe it if someone told me the programs still get credited for signups, just not tracked to an affiliate.

maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Welcome to the world of the scrub that doesn't exist. CCBill and the webmasters that use them are awesome at denying the fact. So much so that I would believe it if someone told me the programs still get credited for signups, just not tracked to an affiliate.

I'm starting to believe this myself. Yes, it's normal that there are differences from day to day but on CCBill they seem a bit too extreme. I also have the feeling that the number of credit cards that are getting refused is extremely high on some days and less so on others.

bigdog · 07-10-2005, 07:51 AM

If epoch has some killer stats, they could take over a lot of smaller paysites that just stick to ccbil because of their stats.

Furious_Male · 07-10-2005, 08:22 AM

I noticed issues around the same time frame. Early last week as well. It comes in spurts. They obviously tighten the screws during those times or have sales post back issues.

Bansheelinks · 07-10-2005, 08:29 AM

they have projections and quotas to stay under, and algorithms that run everything...........if asked, of course they deny, deny, deny

but give me a break.........if they didn't, they'd lose their merchant account or incur draconian fines. just watch your day close after you incur a CB.......watch your ratios plummet. think its a coincidence? nope.

corvette · 07-10-2005, 08:34 AM

unless i am mistaken, those do not look like stats directly from our admin...therefore, there may be an issue importing the data into the proprietary software you are using. My first reaction would be to compare them to what is in our admin?see if anything is amiss there

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Welcome to the world of the scrub that doesn't exist.

every 3rd party processor scrubs their transactions, but the process has a specific method and is completely auditable; we can look into the specific decline reason for every decline?if anybody wants to discuss form hits, submissions, scrubbing, etc...feel free to reach me anytime to talk

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biskoppen · 07-10-2005, 09:23 AM

I thought I was the only one with strange ccbill stats from time to time ;)

Donny · 07-10-2005, 09:26 AM

My hemorrhoids have flared up again.

TheSenator · 07-10-2005, 09:35 AM

That is why you can't put all your eggs in one basket.

xclusive · 07-10-2005, 09:40 AM

Ouch that's a big difference

justsexxx · 07-10-2005, 09:45 AM

Some ppl call it scrubday or whatever. But what sense would it make for ccbill to deny sales, just for the fact of denying them? They don't make money themselve with denials as well.

Donny · 07-10-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

My hemorrhoids have flared up again.

Preparation H isn't working! Maybe I should try the suppositories?

Bansheelinks · 07-10-2005, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Some ppl call it scrubday or whatever. But what sense would it make for ccbill to deny sales, just for the fact of denying them? They don't make money themselve with denials as well.

no they don't, but they also avoid merchant account termination, and massive fines by keeping CB ratios under certain ratios. if you get a CB, simply watch your accounts ratios for the next day or so plummet to the depths. what do you think is happening? with more CB's, you fall into a certain parameter on their scrubbing system, even if you are way under the 1% safe margin.

Warren · 07-10-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

unless i am mistaken, those do not look like stats directly from our admin...therefore, there may be an issue importing the data into the proprietary software you are using. My first reaction would be to compare them to what is in our admin?see if anything is amiss there

every 3rd party processor scrubs their transactions, but the process has a specific method and is completely auditable; we can look into the specific decline reason for every decline?if anybody wants to discuss form hits, submissions, scrubbing, etc...feel free to reach me anytime to talk

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Hey Corvette, how are you doing man

Rojo-DieselAction · 07-10-2005, 12:29 PM

Very strange CCBill stats these days for me too...

maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 12:41 PM

Hi Corvette, it's definitively not an import issue.

June 26:

June 27:

SomeCreep · 07-10-2005, 01:01 PM

The decimal points are strange

maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

The decimal points are strange

edgeprod · 07-10-2005, 01:07 PM

With that few sales, how can you tell anything? You need more sales to establish any sort of patterns.

edgeprod · 07-10-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

The decimal points are strange

Exactly. Shouldn't they be a few more to the right?

maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Exactly. Shouldn't they be a few more to the right?

Do you think I'm making this up, or what? I have better things to do. This is how it looks on my computer, I don't care where you have your decimal points.

V_RocKs · 07-10-2005, 01:40 PM

I am having a similar problem with Nasty Dollars... and other EPOCH sponsors right now.

corvette · 07-10-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by warren

Hey Corvette, how are you doing man

excellent, hope all is well with you, are you going to be in Fl this year?

corvette · 07-10-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxx

Hi Corvette, it's definitively not an import issue.

June 26:

June 27:

please email me the specific accounts, ill get it checked out...we can look at the hits to the form, submissions, etc

[email protected]
or
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maxxxxx · 07-10-2005, 04:20 PM

Thanks, Corvette, email on the way.

Garou · 07-10-2005, 05:11 PM

please post what the hell has happened

edgeprod · 07-10-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxx

Do you think I'm making this up, or what? I have better things to do. This is how it looks on my computer, I don't care where you have your decimal points.

Apparently, yes, you DO have better things to do. Those things just don't include moving your decimal points to the right.

Of course, if you were a little sharper, you'd probably even understand that.

VeriSexy · 07-10-2005, 08:28 PM

Wow, looks like they hit the super shave button.........

Garou · 07-11-2005, 08:48 AM

and...? what was the issue?

Sosa · 07-11-2005, 09:02 AM

looks like a stats remote screen shot. Sometimes that happens to me with weird totals. I just restart the program and it is ok.

cherrylula · 07-11-2005, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

My hemorrhoids have flared up again.

Its that end of the month constipation. Just don't strain too hard and it will all come to pass.

soukee · 07-11-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garou

please post what the hell has happened

I am curious... pls post it

Machete_ · 07-11-2005, 09:31 AM

any news?

seven · 07-11-2005, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

If epoch has some killer stats..

yes, then people would be compalining about epoch too

epoch never accepts my credit cards that all other processors do.. but how could that be? they don't scrub only ccbill scrubs.. fucking funny!

chadglni · 07-11-2005, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven

yes, then people would be compalining about epoch too

epoch never accepts my credit cards that all other processors do.. but how could that be? they don't scrub only ccbill scrubs.. fucking funny!

They all convert worse than a normal merchant account.

DutchTeenCash · 07-11-2005, 09:39 AM

wondering how many sponsors the 16k are, I mean 10 and 1s fucked up with some downtime or so and this will happen...

soukee · 07-11-2005, 12:03 PM

so? 8chars

tranza · 07-11-2005, 12:10 PM

Man, that's VERY odd....

biskoppen · 07-14-2005, 04:51 AM

What did this all end up with?

Miguel T · 07-14-2005, 05:01 AM

Wierdoooo!

Theo · 07-14-2005, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

They all convert worse than a normal merchant account.

almost all

since ARS moved from ibill to their own merc.account i saw a 30% decrease in my sales

J B · 07-14-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

The decimal points are strange

StatsRemote uses your local settings and that's the way it's used in quite a few countries.

Examples:
$29.98 -> $29,98
16,645 -> 16.645

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

looks like a stats remote screen shot. Sometimes that happens to me with weird totals. I just restart the program and it is ok.

The numbers in StatsRemote and in his CCBill stats match.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxx

June 26:

June 27:

Tom_PM · 07-14-2005, 07:21 AM

I hate to say this almost, but you know what? Some days suck, and other days kick ass.. and when they are one day after the other, you can have stats look like that when there is absolutely nothing wrong. It happens and it's no fun, and it makes you crazy, lol.. But it *does* happen sometimes.

Do your stats trend more towards the 15 or the 0? Somewhere in the middle?

Stuff like this is why I always try to look on a weekly, bi-weekly or monthly basis instead of hourly or daily. Helps with the sanity, lol.

07-10-2005, 03:40 AM	#1
maxxxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 646	CCBill stats - does this look strange to you? I thought I show you some funny (NOT!) stats from my CCBill sites on two successive days in June. Same traffic, more or less same amount of visitors, same sites promoted. Does this look right to you? __________________ **Teen Harbour** - Home of Little Caprice ------------------------------------------------------------------- In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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maxxxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 646	It's a variety of sponsors, so the problem must rather be on CCBill's side. __________________ **Teen Harbour** - Home of Little Caprice ------------------------------------------------------------------- In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	Welcome to the world of the scrub that doesn't exist. CCBill and the webmasters that use them are awesome at denying the fact. So much so that I would believe it if someone told me the programs still get credited for signups, just not tracked to an affiliate. __________________ Sign up here - Dating Site affiliate program

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Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	I noticed issues around the same time frame. Early last week as well. It comes in spurts. They obviously tighten the screws during those times or have sales post back issues. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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Gottis Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: VIP NO ID Posts: 1,746	That happens every now and then, ain't nothing you can do sorry

07-10-2005, 07:51 AM	#8
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	If epoch has some killer stats, they could take over a lot of smaller paysites that just stick to ccbil because of their stats.

07-10-2005, 08:29 AM	#10
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	they have projections and quotas to stay under, and algorithms that run everything...........if asked, of course they deny, deny, deny but give me a break.........if they didn't, they'd lose their merchant account or incur draconian fines. just watch your day close after you incur a CB.......watch your ratios plummet. think its a coincidence? nope.

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maxxxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 646	Hi Corvette, it's definitively not an import issue. June 26: June 27: __________________ **Teen Harbour** - Home of Little Caprice ------------------------------------------------------------------- In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	With that few sales, how can you tell anything? You need more sales to establish any sort of patterns.

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	looks like a stats remote screen shot. Sometimes that happens to me with weird totals. I just restart the program and it is ok.

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