who is this guy MAKO? can anyone vouche he is a legit webmaster or just a surfer

[RogerV]

Just curious so I know who keeps talking shit without a sig.

don't want to waste my time ya know

maybe I can hire you to whore my sig?

[Dalai lama]

I dont know him.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

I dont know him.

Does anybody? Keep bumping this thread till we find out.

[3piece chicken Dinner]

I'll be honest with you Roger, if you don't agree with his point of view. You are probably better off that he is a webmaster and NOT a surfer. Surfers sign up to what they like.


But Rock on. Love the SilkyMilkies

[CDSmith]

He's a webmaster. He recently bought some paid traffic through me, people don't generally do that without a site to have it sent to :D

It's up to him if he wants to reveal his site or not.

He's definitely a webmaster though, I can confirm that.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by 3piece chicken Dinner

I'll be honest with you Roger, if you don't agree with his point of view. You are probably better off that he is a webmaster and NOT a surfer. Surfers sign up to what they like.


But Rock on. Love the SilkyMilkies

Its not that I agree or don't its the way he said it. I don't like to be belittled.

I give everyone respect on the boards as I do in biz and I expect the same back or

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

He's a webmaster. He recently bought some paid traffic through me, people don't generally do that without a site to have it sent to :D

It's up to him if he wants to reveal his site or not.

He's definitely a webmaster though, I can confirm that.

Then he must be jealous

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

He's a webmaster. He recently bought some paid traffic through me, people don't generally do that without a site to have it sent to :D

It's up to him if he wants to reveal his site or not.

He's definitely a webmaster though, I can confirm that.

on another note hit me up I want to buy some traffic. lets do it moday fo sure

[WarChild]

Webmaster, deffinetly. Does pretty well for himself fromw hat I can see, too.

[Rebel D]

Mako Is indeed a Webmaster. he has been buying off me for quite some time. Very stand up guy

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by RogerV

on another note hit me up I want to buy some traffic. lets do it moday fo sure

Yippidy. Making a note of it now...

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Webmaster, deffinetly. Does pretty well for himself fromw hat I can see, too.

how can you tell just curious?

[Classy Cassie]

He keeps e-mailing me for free cam shows. Take it for what it's worth.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Slapity

Mako Is indeed a Webmaster. he has been buying off me for quite some time. Very stand up guy

ahh I know who it is he changed his handle (damn it's loud in here)

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Classy Cassie

He keeps e-mailing me for free cam shows. Take it for what it's worth.

Just how stupid are you determined to make yourself look?

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Just how stupid are you determined to make yourself look?

the one thing I have never done is talk shit! the way I see if you don't have something good to say (shut the fuck up) I have also learned how jealous people can get.

Looking forward to talking to you Monday

[grumpy]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Just curious so I know who keeps talking shit without a sig.

don't want to waste my time ya know

maybe I can hire you to whore my sig?

your doing pretty good yourself.

[DWB]

Don't know him but I'll give you a bump...

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by grumpy

your doing pretty good yourself.

thanks do you sell traffic off your TGP?

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by RogerV

how can you tell just curious?

Business conversations on ICQ. Either he is doing well, or he knows how to do well but just isn't doing it.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Don't know him but I'll give you a bump...

He seems to have a little support. I bet its some envious webmaster



Who wants to trade traffic off exits or tgp. and who is selling traffic?

[tranza]

From what I've read in this thread he must be a webmaster for sure...

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Business conversations on ICQ. Either he is doing well, or he knows how to do well but just isn't doing it.

Bro talk is cheap hit me up on ICQ if ya got traffic We will convert it

[RogerV]

I don't know you from the hole in the wall but I still show you respect.

and this was not kool

Originally Posted by Mako

Exactly. He was looking for slaps on the back, instead got hammered for the many things wrong with that site, and is now striking out with some "1/150" claim that no one can verify.

And no Roger, those don't look like "Desperate Housewives", which you also keep repeating.

But hey, if he puts enough "thumbs up!" icons in his posts, everything will be ok.

you don't know me like that

and I can verify what I post everthing is tracked

[pxxx]

I don't know who that is.

[Mako]

I know what I see.

Which is someone who posted a "What do you think of this housewives site" thread, then proceeded to argue/deflect/ignore every suggestion from the group about improving it, while quickly trotting out conversion numbers and several "try it and see!" lines...

I can conclude two things from your responses in that thread:

Either you have the world's thinnest skin and are legitmately hurt that we're not proclaiming the site to be the next BangBus, or, it was all an example of creative spam for affiliates.

No offense Roger, but if you were genuinely seeking feedback on your new site, here are the only response that you should have typed in that thread...the same one I would have:

"Ok, thanks for the tip".

Nothing else.

Not "here are my conversions" not "try it yourself!" not "well I'd take your advice, but since it's converting, no need!" etc, etc. Just Ok, thanks for the tip.

Disappointing that the whole exercise was simply spam...but it figures being that this is GFY.

PS - I am surprised at the amount of nice comments from you other guys about me, that cannot continue! I'll have to flame a bit more or post a few pr0-like "terrorism is great" posts heheh, that should restore my troll rating.

[RogerV]

The moral of the story is, I asked everyone for there opinion on a site and I have made many changes because of them even though it doing amazing. I respect and do whatever I can to make everyone I do biz with happy as much as possible.

But to belittle me and call me a liar when you don?t know me is wrong..

Make comments about the site all you want just don?t get personal or I will expose you! I don?t need to hind behind a board and talk shit.

Its very simple respect

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I think the deflection would be...

It converts.

If it converts what is there to change?

You can not fix somthing that is not broken right?

So there ya have it.

Roger likes the numbers so far, he is satisfied.

If the results are bad then there is actually something to fix.

I have seen sites that look like shit convert.
Would it appeal to you or me? Maybe not but to traffic at large it hooks em.

That what can not be disputed.

Now I may not like FARL from Homegrown video so much...

But Homegrown is a classic example of what people might want and webmasters thought was total shit. Disputing how shitty Homegrown looked was irrelevant when the numbers tell a very different story.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Mako

I know what I see.

Which is someone who posted a "What do you think of this housewives site" thread, then proceeded to argue/deflect/ignore every suggestion from the group about improving it, while quickly trotting out conversion numbers and several "try it and see!" lines...

I can conclude two things from your responses in that thread:

Either you have the world's thinnest skin and are legitmately hurt that we're not proclaiming the site to be the next BangBus, or, it was all an example of creative spam for affiliates.

No offense Roger, but if you were genuinely seeking feedback on your new site, here are the only response that you should have typed in that thread...the same one I would have:

"Ok, thanks for the tip".

Nothing else.

Not "here are my conversions" not "try it yourself!" not "well I'd take your advice, but since it's converting, no need!" etc, etc. Just Ok, thanks for the tip.

Disappointing that the whole exercise was simply spam...but it figures being that this is GFY.

PS - I am surprised at the amount of nice comments from you other guys about me, that cannot continue! I'll have to flame a bit more or post a few pr0-like "terrorism is great" posts heheh, that should restore my troll rating.

I do appreciate and I even changed the color of another site with a simular thread I posted. I wanted to see if it converted before i made any changes to bangedhousewives. and its doing great. I will continue to tweak and I urge you to try it out if you don't believe me.

But I'm not one to post bullshit stats or numbers to make it look good. ask anyone if my shit don't convert I will tell you to pull the traffic till it does..

but your right maybe I flew off the handle a bit with you I'm sorry for that I'm just big on respect I was raised Old school

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Bro talk is cheap hit me up on ICQ if ya got traffic We will convert it

Talk is cheap. I have a lot of traffic. You want to make a cash guarantee that your sites will perform at least as well as my existing sponsors? If I switch traffic to you and lose money on it, you going to compensate me?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Talk is cheap. I have a lot of traffic. You want to make a cash guarantee that your sites will perform at least as well as my existing sponsors? If I switch traffic to you and lose money on it, you going to compensate me?

Warchild just give it a shot.
Why let everyone know what it really is.

if it works what is there to brag about to people? Ya wanna brag to people that your making bank? That would be silly.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by RogerV

The moral of the story is, I asked everyone for there opinion on a site and I have made many changes because of them even though it doing amazing. I respect and do whatever I can to make everyone I do biz with happy as much as possible.

But to belittle me and call me a liar when you don?t know me is wrong..

Make comments about the site all you want just don?t get personal or I will expose you! I don?t need to hind behind a board and talk shit.

Its very simple respect

Incorrect. I said your stats "could not be verified", I never said that you were lying. That's an important distinction, it means to me that by getting stat-specific in a thread so quickly that was supposedly devoted to improving a site, that your true motive for the entire post was revealed....spam.

I have no problem with spam, it is what it is. But let's be honest. You yourself even boasted about how many affiliates you're signing up from the thread...heheh, hey whatever works man.

Also, I don't mind a little "exposing" to this crowd, feel free to knock yourself out.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Talk is cheap. I have a lot of traffic. You want to make a cash guarantee that your sites will perform at least as well as my existing sponsors? If I switch traffic to you and lose money on it, you going to compensate me?

Hell yea no prob. hit me up on ICQ when you get a chance

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Warchild just give it a shot.
Why let everyone know what it really is.

if it works what is there to brag about to people? Ya wanna brag to people that your making bank? That would be silly.

Once again in a language I speak please. English or Spanish will be fine.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Mako

Incorrect. I said your stats "could not be verified", I never said that you were lying. That's an important distinction, it means to me that by getting stat-specific in a thread so quickly that was supposedly devoted to improving a site, that your true motive for the entire post was revealed....spam.

I have no problem with spam, it is what it is. But let's be honest. You yourself even boasted about how many affiliates you're signing up from the thread...heheh, hey whatever works man.

I never once said how many affliates i signed up in that thread. thats not my style. but your right about me spamming my site to inform webmasters on how its converting.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Mako

Incorrect. I said your stats "could not be verified", I never said that you were lying. That's an important distinction, it means to me that by getting stat-specific in a thread so quickly that was supposedly devoted to improving a site, that your true motive for the entire post was revealed....spam.

I have no problem with spam, it is what it is. But let's be honest. You yourself even boasted about how many affiliates you're signing up from the thread...heheh, hey whatever works man.

Also, I don't mind a little "exposing" to this crowd, feel free to knock yourself out.

Bottom line is you tried to make me look bad you didn't say it but you were insinuating. and yes I'm stoked that all my hard work is paying off.
Don't be jelous lets do some biz..?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Once again in a language I speak please. English or Spanish will be fine.

OK

I can generate 10K uniques in a day.
Most decent webmasters can.

Whats 45 Minutes of work to test? Aint shit.

45 minutes to figure out if something works is not alot to ask of any webmaster...

Or is it?

My thoughts on webmasters are not the best. Most webmaster's are lazy fucks and rather debate shit, or wait weeks to make an adjustment whinning about more FHG's or descriptions. Everything short of actually putting in a small effort to examine something.

Affiliates are becomming the biggest lot of whinners I ever seen short of those that opposed the crucifiction of Jesus. They all watched it happen and didnt do shit.

Please...

[Mako]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Bottom line is you tried to make me look bad you didn't say it but you were insinuating. and yes I'm stoked that all my hard work is paying off.
Don't be jelous lets do some biz..?

Not an jealousy issue, as I have no clue what numbers you're doing. More an issue of don't come on the board, look for help, then shit on everyone's head by getting defensive.

Or:

Don't come to the board, waste our time in helping you, only to have it turn out that the whole exercise was just low-grade affiliate spam.

I think that would be a more accurate.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Hell yea no prob. hit me up on ICQ when you get a chance

Good deal then. Add me, 97374780

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Mako

Not an jealousy issue, as I have no clue what numbers you're doing. More an issue of don't come on the board, look for help, then shit on everyone's head by getting defensive.

Or:

Don't come to the board, waste our time in helping you, only to have it turn out that the whole exercise was just low-grade affiliate spam.

I think that would be a more accurate.

I think you took it the wrong way becasue you don't know me. but it was a little of both I spammed the site before we launched knowing it converts off beta traffic.

I don't need to spam the boards like most.. just one example check out the first exit off Hustler.com or barelylegal.com
You want to convert your traffic try me out I'm all about biz not bullshit

Or check out xxxjays stats? I've only been up for a week but doing alot better than i expected.

BTW thanks for all the support

[Nylz]

today's stats so far with PornoPushers

July 9, 2005 838 489 5 1:97

that's MGP gallery traffic, so not really the best quality..

Sign up for PornoPushers

[Nylz]

hm?!

Porno Pushers

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Nylz

today's stats so far with PornoPushers

July 9, 2005 838 489 5 1:97

that's MGP gallery traffic, so not really the best quality..

Sign up for PornoPushers

LOL in about a month I will pay our webmasters to show there stats good or bad. Cause we Roll like that.

BTW Nylz you didn't have to post your stats but thanks that is great for MGP traffic

[Morgan]

not sure but makos have been known to attack surfers

[Mako]

Originally Posted by RogerV

I think you took it the wrong way becasue you don't know me. but it was a little of both I spammed the site before we launched knowing it converts off beta traffic.

I don't need to spam the boards like most.. just one example check out the first exit off Hustler.com or barelylegal.com
You want to convert your traffic try me out I'm all about biz not bullshit

Or check out xxxjays stats? I've only been up for a week but doing alot better than i expected.

BTW thanks for all the support

I have no doubt you do the numbers you say you do, which makes it even more perplexing to me why you chose to be so thin-skinned to criticism in that thread, as well as stooping to affiliate spamming.

Either way, I don't have a problem with you at all Roger, I don't get all crazy about pseudo-internet message board drama as most here do. I just flagged that particular thread as being something that wasn't the best thing you could have done and called you on it to try and prevent others from doing it again.

If you're making money off it, then great, keep up the good work.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Mako

I have no doubt you do the numbers you say you do, which makes it even more perplexing to me why you chose to be so thin-skinned to criticism in that thread, as well as stooping to affiliate spamming.

Either way, I don't have a problem with you at all Roger, I don't get all crazy about pseudo-internet message board drama as most here do. I just flagged that particular thread as being something that wasn't the best thing you could have done and called you on it to try and prevent others from doing it again.

If you're making money off it, then great, keep up the good work.

I was trying to prove a point thats why I posted the conversions.
To show its a good idea to step out of the norm and try new things because its all about making money. I know it will never be a bangbus but I bet it will convert as well..

It's kool Just been home all day cause the damn hurrican and been a little stressed over it I guess. I just go out of my way to help peole all the time and take things to personal sometimes. Plus I will forget about this thread soon as it leaves page one

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by Nylz

today's stats so far with PornoPushers

July 9, 2005 838 489 5 1:97

that's MGP gallery traffic, so not really the best quality..

Sign up for PornoPushers

for those who don't understand

July 9, 2005 first page hits 838 second page hits 489 sales 5 conversion 1:97

see how over 50% make it to the join page

thats just how we Roll become a PornoPusher today

and thx Nylz

[FUCKuPAYme]

I'm converting
2754 1609 15 1:107 with pornopushers

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by FUCKuPAYme

I'm converting
2754 1609 15 1:107 with pornopushers

thats just how we Roll
thx for the post

[RogerV]

Yo Mako have a great weekend..


I've got 4 girls coming over for a hurrican party need to get ready.


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