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Old 07-09-2005, 10:41 AM   #1
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Old 07-09-2005, 10:43 AM   #2
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Old 07-09-2005, 10:48 AM   #3
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What's to criticize about it? It's bullshit propoganda. When 80 ton planes full of jet fuel hit the ground/a building at 500 miles per hour, they tend to blow up into a lot of little pieces and burn very quickly.

Example, the other plane that went head on into the ground in Pennsylvania, hardly anything was found at that crash scene, yet no one is claiming that was a missle or a smaller plane...
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:09 AM   #4
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Wanna know what type of things were found at ground zero of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Wrist watches, bicycles, even some sivlerware. So a bicycle can withstand a nuclear explosion, but parts of a 747 can not with stand and explosion?

Wanna do a fun science experiment? Blow up a balloon, but even when it's full...don't stop. What happens? It blows out. Sorta like a plane when it explodes. And you want to know another nifty little fact? When something explodes, it turns from 'airplane' into 'shrapnel'. That means a lot of little pieces fly away from the main wreckage. Go find me one of them and you'll convince me that a plane hit the pentagon.
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:15 AM   #5
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Wanna know what type of things were found at ground zero of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Wrist watches, bicycles, even some sivlerware. So a bicycle can withstand a nuclear explosion, but parts of a 747 can not with stand and explosion?

Wanna do a fun science experiment? Blow up a balloon, but even when it's full...don't stop. What happens? It blows out. Sorta like a plane when it explodes. And you want to know another nifty little fact? When something explodes, it turns from 'airplane' into 'shrapnel'. That means a lot of little pieces fly away from the main wreckage. Go find me one of them and you'll convince me that a plane hit the pentagon.

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Old 07-09-2005, 11:15 AM   #6
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Wanna know what type of things were found at ground zero of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Wrist watches, bicycles, even some sivlerware. So a bicycle can withstand a nuclear explosion, but parts of a 747 can not with stand and explosion?

Wanna do a fun science experiment? Blow up a balloon, but even when it's full...don't stop. What happens? It blows out. Sorta like a plane when it explodes. And you want to know another nifty little fact? When something explodes, it turns from 'airplane' into 'shrapnel'. That means a lot of little pieces fly away from the main wreckage. Go find me one of them and you'll convince me that a plane hit the pentagon.
Actualy when planes hit solid concrete at very high speed they do disintergrate and dont react like a rubber baloon. Check out a program called 'Tested to Destruction' where things are destroyed to see what they can withstand (big plant machinery, bridges, etc). There is a very good piece of footage in slow motion of a passenger jet that is flowed at high speed into the solid concrete top of a nuclear bunker - the plane dissapears into dust.......
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:17 AM   #7
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I watched the video again and it says "buildings don't swallow up airplanes". Yes, they do. We've all seen the video footage of two different planes getting swallowed up whole when they slammed into both buildings of the WTC.

Everything the video says can be explained....
- One witness says he "smalled cordite" indicating it explosives were involved. How does he know what cordite or explosives smell like? Hundreds of gallons of jet plane fuel went up, plus an entire fucking airplane. Everything was burning. Could it not be possible that the jet fuel on fire smelled like explosives?
- One witness says the plane "flew overhead and barely made any sound". So? Perhaps the pilot had throttled back the engines and was coasting in knowing he wasn't going to coming back up.
- Another witness says "it looked like a smaller plane that would only fit seven or eight people". Where was this person when he/she saw the plane, and how far away from it was he/she? When I see a plane in the sky it tends to look much smaller than it really is.
- There is also a mention of "untouched wire spools". Yep. It flew over them and they weren't touched. Nor was the grass because the damn plane didn't hit the grass.

And then there is the concern about the size of the hole. While we tend to think of a plane of this size to be huge, it really isn't? What is it - fifteen feet wide? This plane didn't hit "just a building", it hit the Pentagon which is made up of five feet concrete walls. It punched a hole through a five foot wide concrete wall. And it went through the entire "ring" of that section of the building (Isn't the Pentagon made up of five "rings"?). The rings are hundreds of feet; The wings of the plane quickly folded and snapped off which is why there isn't two hundred feet of hole. What little of the airplane was left burned up.

Sorry folks, if this wasn't what we were told it was..... thousands of people were involved in this and have been lieing about it. In our industry ten people can't keep a secret for a week. Don't you think someone would have said something by now?
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:22 AM   #8
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Why don't you go back to burning down your rain forest and leave us alone?

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Old 07-09-2005, 11:22 AM   #9
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:23 AM   #10
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How do you criticize this video?
Here's a CNN broadcast where you see the plane hits. This movie is from before it was confiscated:

http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2002/03/...d.exclude.html
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:27 AM   #11
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C'mon people.... Everyone knows that this was done by the Zionist Area 51 Aliens that run the Masons from the grassy knoll.
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:29 AM   #12
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:31 AM   #13
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C'mon people.... Everyone knows that this was done by the Zionist Area 51 Aliens that run the Masons from the grassy knoll.
That's fucking funny!

Anyone notice that on that CNN tape the date on the video is the day after the attack, September 12th?
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:32 AM   #14
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What's to criticize about it? It's bullshit propoganda. When 80 ton planes full of jet fuel hit the ground/a building at 500 miles per hour, they tend to blow up into a lot of little pieces and burn very quickly.

Example, the other plane that went head on into the ground in Pennsylvania, hardly anything was found at that crash scene, yet no one is claiming that was a missle or a smaller plane...
wasn't the engine found 15 miles from the plane wreckage at Pennsylvania ?
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:33 AM   #15
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Fuck off surfer.
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Anyone notice that on that CNN tape the date on the video is the day after the attack, September 12th?
It shows the date catalogued
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:04 PM   #17
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I guess all the people who died on that flight are in a secret government prison. Or maybe the space aliens took them away?
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:25 PM   #18
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wasn't the engine found 15 miles from the plane wreckage at Pennsylvania ?
I never heard that, but I was talking in reference to the actual crash site where little to no wreckage was found.
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:26 PM   #19
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I watched the video again and it says "buildings don't swallow up airplanes". Yes, they do. We've all seen the video footage of two different planes getting swallowed up whole when they slammed into both buildings of the WTC.

Everything the video says can be explained....
- One witness says he "smalled cordite" indicating it explosives were involved. How does he know what cordite or explosives smell like? Hundreds of gallons of jet plane fuel went up, plus an entire fucking airplane. Everything was burning. Could it not be possible that the jet fuel on fire smelled like explosives?
- One witness says the plane "flew overhead and barely made any sound". So? Perhaps the pilot had throttled back the engines and was coasting in knowing he wasn't going to coming back up.
- Another witness says "it looked like a smaller plane that would only fit seven or eight people". Where was this person when he/she saw the plane, and how far away from it was he/she? When I see a plane in the sky it tends to look much smaller than it really is.
- There is also a mention of "untouched wire spools". Yep. It flew over them and they weren't touched. Nor was the grass because the damn plane didn't hit the grass.

And then there is the concern about the size of the hole. While we tend to think of a plane of this size to be huge, it really isn't? What is it - fifteen feet wide? This plane didn't hit "just a building", it hit the Pentagon which is made up of five feet concrete walls. It punched a hole through a five foot wide concrete wall. And it went through the entire "ring" of that section of the building (Isn't the Pentagon made up of five "rings"?). The rings are hundreds of feet; The wings of the plane quickly folded and snapped off which is why there isn't two hundred feet of hole. What little of the airplane was left burned up.

Sorry folks, if this wasn't what we were told it was..... thousands of people were involved in this and have been lieing about it. In our industry ten people can't keep a secret for a week. Don't you think someone would have said something by now?

Yeah, that sums it all up nicely I think, I was too lazy to type all that out...lol
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:53 PM   #20
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

That's the greatest refute to this conspiracy theory ever made.

Although, one would think plane debris would be all over the place. When those things crash, it's everywhere. How come the Pentagon swallowed it up entirely? That's the only part I can't figure out.
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People that believe in conspiracy theories are plain stupid
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How come the Pentagon swallowed it up entirely? That's the only part I can't figure out.
The rings of the Pentagon are designed to aborb incoming missiles. It's built in a way to try to keep any penetration confined within the hit section.
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What's to criticize about it? It's bullshit propoganda. When 80 ton planes full of jet fuel hit the ground/a building at 500 miles per hour, they tend to blow up into a lot of little pieces and burn very quickly.

Example, the other plane that went head on into the ground in Pennsylvania, hardly anything was found at that crash scene, yet no one is claiming that was a missle or a smaller plane...
I'm not too sure about that.. really not sure !
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You'd be a fool to believe we've been told everything about 9/11.
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Here we go again. Honestly, this has been posted at LEAST 30 times.

Once again: They simply leave out all the evidence. Its that easy. And sheep love conspiracies.
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It's absolutely mind blowingly stupid to believe that the government first disposed of a passanger jet full of people, then slammed something else in to the Pentagon and claimed it was the missing jet.

If the goverment were behind it all along, why not just fly the fucking passenger jet in to the building? You have to get rid of it anyway.
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So basically anyone who doesn't believe every last thing they're told, and thinks about stuff, is 'plain stupid'?
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You'd be a fool to believe we've been told everything about 9/11.
I fully believe there have been many lies told about 9/11, but they are about things where there are the least people involved keeping the lies secret, not about planes with verifiable rosters and their survivors.
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So basically anyone who doesn't believe every last thing they're told, and thinks about stuff, is 'plain stupid'?
There's a difference between not believing everything you're told and thinking everything is a conspiracy. There are those among us who think the real world goes down just like the X-files. It's silly and amusing.
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There's a difference between not believing everything you're told and thinking everything is a conspiracy. There are those among us who think the real world goes down just like the X-files. It's silly and amusing.
It'd also help if more people actually stuck to the true definition of 'conspiracy' (and yes the whole 'no plane hit the pentagon' is obviously a conspiracy case). Some people think if you don't believe every last thing you're being told, then you're a conspiracy theorist. And I also fail to see how that's such a bad thing. If you're an American I'll let it slide though, since no one on Earth is more narrow minded than the average American.
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