My Fiance Wants Me to Stay Out of It (SonofSam vs. AaronM)...

[Donny]

... but that cocksucker known as SonofSam has done nothing for our industry but bitch and complain about AaronM and even Lightspeed. He has done nothing for the business. He is a flea on a maggots ass. Fuck that fucking idiot?

How often have you heard me talk like this? Not very. But this cock sucking ass fucker AKA Sonofsam is a fucking moron 19 year old newbie who thinks he can capitalize off Aaron's name.

Not on my fucking watch! Fuck you SOS. You will never be anybody in this business and should just leave now. Suck a few more cocks and maybe you'll make a dollar or two.

Fuck off now and leave the professionals to themselves.

[Juicy D. Links]

I am the epitome of the perfect male

[Spunky]

I thought you were staying out of it

[Donny]

I thought you were staying out of it

I said my fiance wants me to stay out of it...

[Sly]

Time for sushi, Donny.

[Fletch XXX]

[Donny]

Time for sushi, Donny.

Yes it is.


I was just beginning to tolerate SOS again when he had to start his attention whore thread.


Aaron hasn't threatened him. Aaron has been at my house photographing models for a large project for a few weeks now. SOS is far from our memory.

He's a lame FUCK who wants to gain attention by using Aaron's name. FUCK HIM.



(has my opinion of SOS been made clear?)

[pornguy]

Damn. I have never seen a rant from you like that.

Oh, you forgot the rant tags. <rant> </rant>

Did them for you. and I agree 100%

[Juicy D. Links]

I said my fiance wants me to stay out of it...

She said that she wants me

[Mako]

Donovan...I could care less who AaronM is, or who Sonofsam is. The bottom line is the following:

Sonofsam spent $3500 on content months ago. He still doesn't have it, yet AaronM has his money.

I don't see where age, newbie status, or anything else you're so passionate about in your post (lol) matters. I see payment received for a service, and the service not fulfilled.

What am I missing? Show me how it's not so black and white as I've just described.

[Donny]

She said that she wants me

She does indeed. I'm okay with threesomes or even the two of you as long as I can film it for private enjoyment later!

[Donny]

Donovan...I could care less who AaronM is, or who Sonofsam is. The bottom line is the following:

Sonofsam spent $3500 on content months ago. He still doesn't have it, yet AaronM has his money.

I don't see where age, newbie status, or anything else you're so passionate about in your post (lol) matters. I see payment received for a service, and the service not fulfilled.

What am I missing? Show me how it's not so black and white as I've just described.

Sam has his content. He still hasn't paid the full amount of the invoice because he is so stupid as to believe Aaron was talking Canadian dollars vs. US Dollars. When Sam is paid in full we can talk. Until then he is just a little bitch.

[dropped9]

Pardon me, but did anybody say, "See sig?"

[dropped9]

Donny what are your thoughts on the screen cap sos posted?

Just curious...

[AaronM]

It amazes me how far some people will go to gain fame by pissing with others who are better known than them. We've seen a lot of people do this over the years. It has worked for some but not for most.

Mary34D pulled similar shit using my name and implying bullshit. At least she only implied it while sonofsam flat out lies about it

The little bastard has even gone so far as to make fake ICQ logs.

Well, here's some screen caps of my logs too.

sonofsam, I am kinda known for calling people out on this board. I'm made a few physical threats over the years and have followed up on each of them....One of them was in Vancouver. Rest easy knowing that if I felt that you needed an ass kicking bad enough that I would happily admit to telling you that I intend to do it and then I would follow through.

Keep toying with me and it may just escalate to that level. You're too dumb to let it go. Just remember kid, you reap what you sow.

[Donny]

BTW: Aaron is too busy with the content he's been shooting for the last two weeks to even respond to a pissant like sonofsam. He's in the room next to me working on some nice content he just shot today of a girl who will be in Hustler's Barely Legal later this year. SOS can only wish to photograph such a model.

[WarChild]

Should have listened to your fiance. She seems a lot smarter than you.

[Juicy D. Links]

Aaron what kind of ICQ is that? I want one

[dropped9]

Yeah that icq history rocks!

[AaronM]

Donovan...I could care less who AaronM is, or who Sonofsam is. The bottom line is the following:

Sonofsam spent $3500 on content months ago. He still doesn't have it, yet AaronM has his money.

I don't see where age, newbie status, or anything else you're so passionate about in your post (lol) matters. I see payment received for a service, and the service not fulfilled.

What am I missing? Show me how it's not so black and white as I've just described.

What are you missing?

Jesus H. Christ.

The fucking kid violated my license agreement before he had even finished paying for the fucking content. WHY IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD FOR YOUR TO COMPREHEND?

You violate a license and YOU LOSE IT!

PLUS...That little bastard publicly stated that HE DID NOT WANT A DIME BACK.

End of story.

[Donny]

Should have listened to your fiance. She seems a lot smarter than you.

Warchild, I'm not going to argue with you. My fiancee is a very intelligent, beautiful girl. She knows Aaron can fight his own battles. But Aaron is a very good friend and sonofsam is a newbie who is only known for bashing AaronM and Lightspeed. That is all he's accomplished. He's a 19 year old immature NOBODY who sucks cock to get ahead in life. Fuck him.

[AaronM]

Aaron what kind of ICQ is that? I want one

TrillianPRO 3.1

[TDF]

Should have listened to your fiance. She seems a lot smarter than you.

[WarChild]

He's a 19 year old immature NOBODY who sucks cock to get ahead in life. Fuck him.

So he's a nobody and you're what? Ansel fucking Adams? AaronM can fight his own battles and really doesn't need your help.

[Mako]

What are you missing?

Jesus H. Christ.

The fucking kid violated my license agreement before he had even finished paying for the fucking content. WHY IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD FOR YOUR TO COMPREHEND?

You violate a license and YOU LOSE IT!

PLUS...That little bastard publicly stated that HE DID NOT WANT A DIME BACK.

End of story.

The bottom line is that any pro in another field would have handled it differently. I would have revoked his license and refunded any funds paid. We both walk away. Last time I checked these weren't exclusive shoots. They were simply a large bulk amount of pics packaged to move fast. If that's wrong, I apologize, if they were contracted exclusive shoots then that changes things for sure.

But if it was non-exclusive content you're already monetized several times over, what difference does it make? I'd have cut a check and cut sos the fuck LOOSE if it were me. Better that than have literally thousands of views being logged by lurkers looking for content that might be swayed one way or the other.

Sidenote: Wtf is that ICQ dude, that owns, where do I get that?

And PS - Donovan, WTF man, holy shit. Lets all grow up, how goddamned old are you? Physical violence, are you insane? I like reading your posts on this board, and have for a long time, but settle the fuck down on this shit. It's making you look like a jackass. And I say that with no malice whatsoever, it's just not good man.

[abyss_al]

"but that cocksucker known as SonofSam has done nothing for our industry but bitch and complain about AaronM and even Lightspeed. He has done nothing for the business. He is a flea on a maggots ass. Fuck that fucking idiot?"

speaking of things up/in thing's asses...


"How often have you heard me talk like this? Not very."

you're doing it as we speak...

bunch of fucking kids.... another useless thread....

[Donny]

So he's a nobody and you're what? Ansel fucking Adams? AaronM can fight his own battles and really doesn't need your help.

You're right. Aaron can fight his own battles.

And I'm perfectly happy being Donovan Phillips vs. Ansel Adams. In case you haven't noticed, I've been around 8 years photographing naked amateurs WITH my fiances help and running a successful adult webmaster program with no 2257 concerns whatsoever 'cause my docs have always gone above and beyond.

SOS, on the other hand, has claimed to have been fucked by both AaronM and Lightspeed Cash.

Who do you believe? AaronM and Lightspeed or some 19 year old butt sniffer who's only claim to fame is badmouthing his superiors?

[WarChild]

You're right. Aaron can fight his own battles.

And I'm perfectly happy being Donovan Phillips vs. Ansel Adams. In case you haven't notice, I've been around 8 years photographing naked amateurs WITH my fiances help and running a successful adult webmaster program with no 2257 concerns whatsoever 'cause my docs have always gone above and beyond.

SOS, on the other hand, has claimed to have been fucked by both AaronM and Lightspeed Cash.

Who do you believe? AaronM and Lightspeed or some 19 year old butt sniffer who's only claim to fame is badmouthing his superiors?

You're actually missing a third guy who claimed fucked him around, the bosses at Adult Webmaster World. A guy I know personally and have a lot of respect for.

I'm not jumping in here to defend SonofSam. At this point, you know full well making this post would not help to resolve the situation. If you didn't know, one could safely assume your fiance probably told you, based on information your provided in this post. The remaining motive for making this post, stiring the pot, is just so childish and immature it warranted a special post from me.

[AaronM]

The bottom line is that any pro in another field would have handled it differently. I would have revoked his license and refunded any funds paid.

This issue has also been beat to death.

Licenses are in place for a reason. If you abuse them, you lose them. No refund. PERIOD.

Fuck you and anybody else who is too fucking stupid to understand how basic business works.

DMV: You drink & Drive, you lose your license....And they don't refund you your license fee. The bank does not put your car payments on hold or refund them either. Same for the insurance company.

The kid fucked up and I made a legal and moral decision. I also got the opinions of some very well known program owners about this and they agreed with me 100%.

[Kard63]

SOS does a lot of small things that are dumb but he hasn't fucked anyone... I think he got a very shitty/unfair deal here.

[Mako]

WarChild, shoot me an ICQ, I have a Q for you: 215-500-846

And if you don't, you better watch out, because the next time I see you there will be a BEATDOWN!!!! ;)

[Sly]

I can't believe this is an issue... AGAIN. Now we'll have another 10 threads from SOS crying about it. Weeee...

[Juicy D. Links]

Licenses are in place for a reason. If you abuse them, you lose them. No refund. PERIOD.

A good point which people here fail to understand

[WarChild]

WarChild, shoot me an ICQ, I have a Q for you: 215-500-846

And if you don't, you better watch out, because the next time I see you there will be a BEATDOWN!!!! ;)

If anybody needs a beatdown, it really would be me. I'm long overdue for a good ol' fashioned ass kicking.

[Juicy D. Links]

Buy a License from MS or whatever (just for arguments sake) and fuck with em and see what they do to ya......

[Donny]

A good point which people here fail to understand

Juicy has spoken. Final decision rendered. Thread closed.

[Mako]

Damnit, my ICQ didn't add you WC, it bugged...send me another one

[Jace]

i have to side with aaron on this one...sos violated terms before money was even paid in full....

if I bought content from matrix, and used that content in print without paying the extra fee they require, they will pull my license and i seriously doubt they will give me a refund for it...LOL....in fact, even thinking that someone deserves a refund after they violated terms shows the business intelligence level of GFY...ROFL

[WarChild]

Buy a License from MS or whatever (just for arguments sake) and fuck with em and see what they do to ya......

Well let's see how good your example really is.

I used to work high up in the IT department of a $1B forest company.
Microsoft did an audit of our licenses. When they found we were short some, we simply were asked to buy the outstanding licenses. We did that. No problem.

I don't think your example is very good.

[Donny]

Well let's see how good your example really is.

I used to work high up in the IT department of a $1B forest company.
Microsoft did an audit of our licenses. When they found we were short some, we simply were asked to buy the outstanding licenses. We did that. No problem.

I don't think your example is very good.

Let's use your example:


Has SOS paid the balance? No. 'Nuff said.

[sonofsam]

A good point which people here fail to understand

kinda hard to not violate a licence when you havn't been issued one...

[Sly]

Buy a License from MS or whatever (just for arguments sake) and fuck with em and see what they do to ya......

Odds are they would make you buy the proper licenses or would work out a deal with you to remedy the situation. People violate licenses all day and night, its up to the license holder to decide whether or not its worth fighting about.

This particular license infringement was in no way worth all of the hassle/drama it created, in my opinion. Obviously, as Aaron is the license holder, he feels differently and that is his right.

[Sly]

i have to side with aaron on this one...sos violated terms before money was even paid in full....

if I bought content from matrix, and used that content in print without paying the extra fee they require, they will pull my license and i seriously doubt they will give me a refund for it...LOL....in fact, even thinking that someone deserves a refund after they violated terms shows the business intelligence level of GFY...ROFL

Would Matrix pull your license if you posted the content on GFY to get second opinions?

[sonofsam]

Warchild, I'm not going to argue with you. My fiancee is a very intelligent, beautiful girl. She knows Aaron can fight his own battles. But Aaron is a very good friend and sonofsam is a newbie who is only known for bashing AaronM and Lightspeed. That is all he's accomplished. He's a 19 year old immature NOBODY who sucks cock to get ahead in life. Fuck him.

Thanks donny, i'd like to take this time to let you all know i'll be launching www.JuliaBlue.com tomorrow or sunday also... and thanks to all the people who have helped me get to this point..

i'd say that launching an exclusive paysite at 19 is not a bad accomplishment for only being in this industry a short while... in my opinion its a great accomplishment... so fuck you and what you think, i think its great

[Juicy D. Links]

Well let's see how good your example really is.

I used to work high up in the IT department of a $1B forest company.
Microsoft did an audit of our licenses. When they found we were short some, we simply were asked to buy the outstanding licenses. We did that. No problem.

I don't think your example is very good.

Well yeah , i just used it as a example , if you got lets say 1000 licenses from MS and they audit for 1002 then buying 2 more wouldnt be issue.

Just only thing that popped in my head atm.

[brand0n]

im just wondering.. why not issue the guy a refund?

the content isnt what he wanted. he cant use it, youve got his money..

i mean, it kinda seems like the guys been fucked on this 1 big time. hes out, 4k, with nothing 2 show for it.

ok. i know this is none of my consern, and i shouldnt stick my 2 cents in so with that being said ill let you guys get back to attacking eatch other.

[Jace]

Would Matrix pull your license if you posted the content on GFY to get second opinions?

they have that right, i have no clue how they would react though

[sonofsam]

for the record everyone, i'm not after the money... i don't want it... this isn't about that.. that was settled a long time ago when i posted i don't want the money....

but now that i'm in the spotlight...

www.juliablue.com is also having an alternative tour being built along with some FHGS and thanks to all the people who have contacted me wanting to promote the site

[Jace]

Thanks donny, i'd like to take this time to let you all know i'll be launching www.JuliaBlue.com tomorrow or sunday also... and thanks to all the people who have helped me get to this point..

i'd say that launching an exclusive paysite at 19 is not a bad accomplishment for only being in this industry a short while... in my opinion its a great accomplishment... so fuck you and what you think, i think its great

see my comment about the gfy business intelligence level....opening a paysite isn't that big of a deal...come back when it is making money

I can open 5 paysites a week, doesn't mean I have accomplished much, just that I know how to get a design made and load some content up into it

[Donny]

im just wondering.. why not issue the guy a refund?

the content isnt what he wanted. he cant use it, youve got his money..

i mean, it kinda seems like the guys been fucked on this 1 big time. hes out, 4k, with nothing 2 show for it.

ok. i know this is none of my consern, and i shouldnt stick my 2 cents in so with that being said ill let you guys get back to attacking eatch other.

Aaron told him what was in the content. Showed him examples, even. I was shown the same samples and I paid much more for than same exact content that same paid.

He gets it, has buyers remorse, and starts shit on GFY about it.

If I was AaronM would I issue a refund? Hell. Fucking. No.

Sam has received more than his money's worth bad mouthing AaronM and Lightspeed. Fuck him.

He still has a past due balance. If I was Aaron I'd turn his slimey ass over to collections.

THIS is his claim to fame????

http://www.juliablue.com/

Wonderful. He'll be here for the long haul. NOT!