I guarantee you that these 2 are going to convert..

With the right targeting they can murder traffic's credit cards.

Everything comes down to targeting really.

A good designer is a propane tank.
A good webmaster holds the fire.

If thats what lets you sleep at night bro. One would hope your not serious. Alien may be crazy as a bat in a tin outhouse , but he has skills and experience.
And his work speaks for itself. And it is an impressive list of programs that are featuring his work.

Heads up, in case you didn't know, http://www.stealthisgallery.com/ shows an Apache page.

Cant really say I care for it..

Here is a tour that was made last year.

http://www.sybianrodeo.com

These guys were cool.
They had a little content that had a minor design.

They posted there tour here on GFY and got shredded in a very bad way.
I contacted them, redid the tour, they sent targeted traffic to it the right way and boom.

They are in the green.


There is alot to design but fundamental in design is not just looks.
Its all about understanding a niche and getting in the head of potential visitors.

It is my philosophy that no design can sell a site as good as the content does. The content drives the sale not the look.

Now DamageX...

Take my wisdom and learn from it.
I wouldnt have said anything if I didnt give a shit about your ability.
Ya got potential, but save the blaze and effects for art and get to the business of selling art.

I am VERY serious. I've spent the last years offering other kinds of services to fellow webmasters and was busy working instead of running my mouth on GFY. But if running your mouth on GFY is what it takes in order to prove your work to be great, then that's what I'll be doing, albeit in a more professional manner than other "famous" designers on here. Time will tell. :winkwink:

It's what I do best. :)

compared to quashe, wyldesites, webince dickmandesigns, alienq is the bottom of the food chain.

nice work alien.

lets hope so, that first paysite is mine :thumbsup

That looks nice.. But... The only thing I don,t like with that kind of design, it's that it is not evolutive.. Everything is at his place and if you want to change/add something, you're almost back to square one... :2 cents:

I think DamageX got owned (AlienQ may be one sick wacko fucker but he does good work)

That remains to be seen. Anyone can pull out a template and fill it with content. Not anyone can design. But, we'll have to see the conversions. :)

Very nice designs Alien, the content really stands out as it should. Great job man.

Next month a new program will open and it features 12 new designs of mine.
Hopefully peeps will like those to.
But even if they do not like them...

They will like the paychecks:)

If there is a designer to watch these days it is MachineGunKelly.

He is a silent monster and I have always admired his work..

HOLY SHIT twice in one thread, I have to agree with you :winkwink:

MGK is solid. As are most of the desigers in the thead.

Fixed for accuracy.

Both designers' work look good. Both styles are applicable in certain types of content. Yous guys put down the Haterade.

thats good work man, keep it up! :thumbsup