Originally posted by Dopy Well at least we aren?t a bunch of obese couch potatoes lacking style and culture.
dude, post a pic of yourself. lets see that "style"
Christ, you can pic europeans out at the webmaster shows because of their "sale rack" sense of fashion.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
dude, post a pic of yourself. lets see that "style"
Christ, you can pic europeans out at the webmaster shows because of their "sale rack" sense of fashion.
If that really is you, then not only are you fucking ugly but your sense of style is in your arse. And I wouldn't be talking "sale rack" if I were you.
dude, post a pic of yourself. lets see that "style"
Christ, you can pic europeans out at the webmaster shows because of their "sale rack" sense of fashion.
Or just check the massive overbite......Euro's also lack the dentistry skills
Should one take that to mean America lacks style and culture?
America has been a HUGE contributor to world culture the past century. American music, American movies, American food, American celebrities, and American drink are everywhere. Entertainment and food. What could be bigger? Oh, yeah .. television! Born right here in the good old United States of Invention, my friend. Anyone that watches television is partaking in American culture in the same way that anyone in America that eats Spaghetti is partaking in Italian culture.
Hell, kids in Timbuktu know what a Big Mac and a Coke is.
Originally posted by Colin Should one take that to mean America lacks style and culture?
America has been a HUGE contributor to world culture the past century. American music, American movies, American food, American celebrities, and American drink are everywhere. Entertainment and food. What could be bigger? Oh, yeah .. television! Born right here in the good old United States of Invention, my friend. Anyone that watches television is partaking in American culture in the same way that anyone in America that eats Spaghetti is partaking in Italian culture.
Hell, kids in Timbuktu know what a Big Mac and a Coke is.
Maybe you don't like Coke.
Yes, a Big Mac and Coke is shit food - even in Timbuktu.
Are you telling me that a Spanish family watching Spanish television is participating in American culture because they are watching a television?
That's fucking hilarious.
Originally posted by Captain Canada American culture rules the world - this is the thing with almost every European - they still think they are relevant.
Your glory days are waaaaaaay behind you - I know it must be very hard to accept, but you no longer rule the world.
Look in the mirror.
You don't rule the world either, even if you'd like to.
Amazing what amount of ignorance and arrogance fits into 1 thread.
No, Joe. I'm saying that a Spanish family watching Spanish television is participating in American culture because they are watching a television in the same way that an American family eating Spaghetti is participating in Italian culture because they are eating Spaghetti.
Many Europeans love Big Macs and Cokes - despite your personal preferences. Hell, the hamburger itself, despite it's name being similar to that of a German city was invented in America.
But never mind all that. TV is ours. The Movie projectors is ours. The phonograph. The telephone. The modern computer. What kind of culture produces such amazing products? One of innovation and technology. In the same way that Hungarian culture produced a series of great mathematicians last century and German culture produced a series of great physicists, American culture has produced great inventors.
How long did it take jazz, rock and roll, or rap to spread to Europe? American influence on music this century has been astounding.
Originally posted by Colin No, Joe. I'm saying that a Spanish family watching Spanish television is participating in American culture because they are watching a television in the same way that an American family eating Spaghetti is participating in Italian culture because they are eating Italian.
That's like saying that inmates in the local prison are participating in an Australian cultural experience because we invented barbed wire.
Sorry, but I think that your statement is ludicrous.
Why is the television NOT a product of American culture? i.e. the cult of technology? If I use an abacus, am I using a Chinese cultural item? Why? Why not?
Why is the television NOT a product of American culture? i.e. the cult of technology? If I use an abacus, am I using a Chinese cultural item? Why? Why not?
The television may be a product of your society but the act of watching a television itself does not constitute a cultural experience unless what is being watched - whatever is being shown on the TV - is American.
The Germans invented the Frankfurter but would you say eating a hot dog is a German experience?
Originally posted by Colin No American culture? Why is everyone here speaking English? (Besides, of course you that live in places formerly part of the British Empire).
Are you actually telling me now that "English", the language that originated in "England" (funny that) is American culture?
I always like to hear Americans being proud about their budweiser. In fact, it is a ripoff of the Czech Budweis, which existed long before WHASSAP and the BUD-WEIS-ER frogs.
Originally posted by Equinox I always like to hear Americans being proud about their budweiser. In fact, it is a ripoff of the Czech Budweis, which existed long before WHASSAP and the BUD-WEIS-ER frogs.
Actually, beer was invented in Europe.
I'd hope so, you only had a couple millenia head start.
"The television may be a product of your society but the act of watching a television itself does not constitute a cultural experience unless what is being watched - whatever is being shown on the TV - is American. "
Then spaghetti is Italian but eating it is not. Funny. My original statement was "Anyone that watches television is partaking in American culture in the same way that anyone in America that eats Spaghetti is partaking in Italian culture" which by the above is true.
Speaking of the hotdog. Do you eat it on a bun? That was first done in America. Oh .. and the NAME "hot dog"? Coined at my alma mater, Yale University. New Haven, CT. U.S. OF A.
"Are you actually telling me now that "English", the language that originated in "England" (funny that) is American culture?"
No. Pay attention. America's contribution to the internet is why everyone is speaking English here. We're not speaking German, we're not speaking Italian, and we're not speaking Zulu.
Beer was not invented in Europe. It was invented in Egypt or maybe ancient Sumeria depending on who you believe. Herodotus stated that the Egyptians invented Beer, which may be true.
Didn't a Scotsman invent TV? Logie Baird.
American movies are great like Lawrence of Arabia & The Full Monty.
And as for the food, McDees taste the same the worls over, foul. It's about Ronald more than taste.
You invented cine film, record players, the telephone? Not sure about that. You might have improved and perfected them, will have to look it up sometime.
As the biggest country in the world you should lead and set an example. Thats is your duty.
Originally posted by Colin "The television may be a product of your society but the act of watching a television itself does not constitute a cultural experience unless what is being watched - whatever is being shown on the TV - is American. "
Then spaghetti is Italian but eating it is not. Funny. My original statement was "Anyone that watches television is partaking in American culture in the same way that anyone in America that eats Spaghetti is partaking in Italian culture" which by the above is true.
The Italians got pasta from the Chinese so maybe eating Spaghetti is a Chinese experience.
With regards to television, as I stated before why then wouldn't it be the case that everyone who comes into contact with barbed wire be automatically participating in Australian culture?
It is an Australian invention.
Originally posted by Colin No, Joe. I'm saying that a Spanish family watching Spanish television is participating in American culture because they are watching a television in the same way that an American family eating Spaghetti is participating in Italian culture because they are eating Spaghetti.
Many Europeans love Big Macs and Cokes - despite your personal preferences. Hell, the hamburger itself, despite it's name being similar to that of a German city was invented in America.
But never mind all that. TV is ours. The Movie projectors is ours. The phonograph. The telephone. The modern computer. What kind of culture produces such amazing products? One of innovation and technology. In the same way that Hungarian culture produced a series of great mathematicians last century and German culture produced a series of great physicists, American culture has produced great inventors.
How long did it take jazz, rock and roll, or rap to spread to Europe? American influence on music this century has been astounding.
just as well america let in all those smart european migrants to invent all the complex machines, systems, algorithms, you name it...
Sure. Lots of cultural artifacts spread and are influenced by those of their surrounding and sometimes faraway (world) neighbors.
The point is that not a single person's life here has not been richly enhanced because of American culture. It's music, it's invention, it's technology, it's expressions, it's idioms, it's food, and it's movies. This is amazing because it has not had the huge headstart that Europe has time-wise.
Culture n.
"The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought."
What has been the American contribution to human work and thought in this century?
It is a curious thing. Nearly everyone here is the grandchild or great-grandchild of immigrants. I am.
So a Hungarian comes up with the idea of the Atomic Bomb but it is developed here in the US. What made that possible? Why is it that so many things have been invented in America in the past century? What is it about it's culture .. it's societal values that made this possible?
America DOES have it's own culture. Think of America circa 1950. Leather jackets, motorcycles, and rock music. Were those cultural artifacts or not?
America is HUGE and POPULOUS. It is widely diverse from sea to shining sea and all across it's beautiful fruited plane. Here in Miami there is DEFINITELY a Miami culture. There is also an American South-West culture (Santa Fe), and then there's Hollywood.
No, it is not one uniform culture. America is extremely culturally diverse from location to location - so in that sense there is not a uniform culture. Come visit me here in Miami though and tell me whether South Beach "has culture" - an interesting medley of Latin and American influences. It's sights, smells, tastes. It's an amazing place. There are many more like it here. If you can't enjoy it, then don't. I've visited many European cities and liked them all. Europe has it's own cultures and traditions and they vary from town to town and country to country also.
I don't see any reason to say there is culture in Europe but not America. That makes no sense.
Originally posted by Colin "just as well america let in all those smart european migrants to invent all the complex machines, systems, algorithms, you name it..."
YES! That WAS and IS the idea! Exactly.
what was it they wanted to get away from in the first place?
Originally posted by Pleasurepays
"just as well america let in all those smart european migrants to invent all the complex machines, systems, algorithms, you name it..."
maybe my history is bad
can someone please tell me immigration stories about people who were desperately fleeing European success, prosperity and peace?
Originally posted by Colin Should one take that to mean America lacks style and culture?
America has been a HUGE contributor to world culture the past century. American music, American movies, American food, American celebrities, and American drink are everywhere. Entertainment and food. What could be bigger? Oh, yeah .. television! Born right here in the good old United States of Invention, my friend. Anyone that watches television is partaking in American culture in the same way that anyone in America that eats Spaghetti is partaking in Italian culture.
Hell, kids in Timbuktu know what a Big Mac and a Coke is.
dude, post a pic of yourself. lets see that "style"
Christ, you can pic europeans out at the webmaster shows because of their "sale rack" sense of fashion.
I guess Italian design clothing is not a European product.
Giorgio Armani - Italy.
Versace - Italy.
Maybe you are not familair with these brands, did your employer lower your salary Ron?
Originally posted by charly Didn't a Scotsman invent TV? Logie Baird.
American movies are great like Lawrence of Arabia & The Full Monty.
And as for the food, McDees taste the same the worls over, foul. It's about Ronald more than taste.
You invented cine film, record players, the telephone? Not sure about that. You might have improved and perfected them, will have to look it up sometime.
As the biggest country in the world you should lead and set an example. Thats is your duty.
Thank you Charly - I was eager to rip his cretinous fuckin head off - last time I looked back at the history of engineering and invention, the British (mainly Scottish to give them their dues) are pretty much at the forefront.
Where the Brits have been good at the invention, the Italians have been masters of design (unfortunately mech/elec design never included reliabilty).
The Japs rule in the world of mass production/cost/reliabilty.
America is probably best at consumption - energy, food, you name it and the Yanks will devour it.
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