yeah normally she is great about helping people and educating the masses about world problems and issues, well i guess she just needs to be explained that they arent the same but i doubt she cares
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Just when the adult industry is going through enough misfortune at the hands of our elected government over 2257, the fact that Oprah makes such a patently uninformed (and closed-minded) accusation about "pornographers" is just sickening. I'm glad to see that so many of you have taken the time to write Oprah expressing your (our) views on her horrible misrepresentation of this industry.
I just got off the phone with Grace from the ASACP, and they're currently in the process of contacting Oprah's producers to arrange some airtime for Joan to appear on the show and help put to rest the notion that the LEGITIMATE adult industry is even remotely supportive of CP. As the front-line in the battle against sexual exploitation of children online, ASACP is in a prime position to publicly illustrate the fact that mainstream adult companies are in fact contributing considerable time and funds to combat this scurge.
Please continue to write to the Oprah folks by using this page:
With any luck, these emails might be enough to help get Joan an opportunity to appear on the show. She is a tremendous representative for our industry and will do a great job on our behalf, much like when she was interviewed by Barbara Walters on The View.
The time is NOW to do our part in squelching this unfortunately far-reaching smear on legitimate adult companies all over the world. Because like it or not, Oprah's influence goes beyond our borders.
I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck ANY porn producer would have been doing jumping on a plane to try and shoot scenes in countries that had no power, no running water, etc right after a major disaster.
I agree, I think if Joan could get some airtime and really talk about the industry , it's legitimacy and how in NO way does it support any kind of child porn but actually a big supporter of putting a STOP TO IT would be great
I think you're show is very well done and while I've always admired your professionalism and journalistic integrity, I must admit that I am truly disappointed and dismayed by your recent comment regarding "pornographers hopping on a plane after the Tsunami to shoot child porn". Point in fact, the adult online community despises child porn and in fact, monitors it more closely than just about any other organization. The "adult entertainment" community is mobilized and donates much of their time and dollars to an organization called the ASACP which does an excellent job of monitoring and combating online child pornography. In addition, the adult online community has raised money to help the victims of the Tsunami. In short, I find your on-air comment accusatory, inflammatory and unprofessional. I think it best for you to research an organization prior to vilifying them on air.
This is my 2 cents on this whole issue?
I say we do a class action Anti-Defamation suit! That will teach her to defame our industry! ACLU may even look at this one. Now I did not hear what was said, but IF she has categorized us (pornographers) of supporting CP and lumping us together..there MAY BE something there, as it hurts our business as a whole. I mean I know the Beef people tried to do this and lost, but Bad Beef isn?t illegal, CP is! So wow she has categorized us as Criminals! So what do you all think of this?
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This is my 2 cents on this whole issue?
I say we do a class action Anti-Defamation suit! That will teach her to defame our industry! ACLU may even look at this one. Now I did not hear what was said, but IF she has categorized us (pornographers) of supporting CP and lumping us together..there MAY BE something there, as it hurts our business as a whole. I mean I know the Beef people tried to do this and lost, but Bad Beef isn?t illegal, CP is! So wow she has categorized us as Criminals! So what do you all think of this?
-=Chipmunk=-
yeah... "Ponographers Sue Oprah" as headline news for weeks. That will be the best way to set things straight and make people have a positive opinion of Pornographers.
Just when the adult industry is going through enough misfortune at the hands of our elected government over 2257, the fact that Oprah makes such a patently uninformed (and closed-minded) accusation about "pornographers" is just sickening. I'm glad to see that so many of you have taken the time to write Oprah expressing your (our) views on her horrible misrepresentation of this industry.
I just got off the phone with Grace from the ASACP, and they're currently in the process of contacting Oprah's producers to arrange some airtime for Joan to appear on the show and help put to rest the notion that the LEGITIMATE adult industry is even remotely supportive of CP. As the front-line in the battle against sexual exploitation of children online, ASACP is in a prime position to publicly illustrate the fact that mainstream adult companies are in fact contributing considerable time and funds to combat this scurge.
Please continue to write to the Oprah folks by using this page:
With any luck, these emails might be enough to help get Joan an opportunity to appear on the show. She is a tremendous representative for our industry and will do a great job on our behalf, much like when she was interviewed by Barbara Walters on The View.
The time is NOW to do our part in squelching this unfortunately far-reaching smear on legitimate adult companies all over the world. Because like it or not, Oprah's influence goes beyond our borders.
*stands up & applaudes*
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Who gives a shit about what Oprah thinks except all the norrow minded women who buy her books and watch her show, if you waste your time worrying about shit like this then when the hell would ya find the time to do any work? LOL
It is not cool of her to say what she did but hey, like the industry hasn't been related to CP in the past.
As always, the industry is catogorised and I hate to tell you my friends but it's going to continue to be this way as long as there is religion so except it and move on with your life. We all know the truth and now we know that Oprah is BIG DUMB ASS!
My mother enjoys your show, but I am truly disgusted by the comment that you reportedly made about pornographers hopping on planes to shoot child porn after the tsunami. You may not know this, but the adult online industry raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations in order to aid the victims of the tsunami.
Pornography is an industry like any other, and the vast majority of those who are involved in it are good law abiding citizens who despise child pornography and abuse as much as you do. Check with the ASACP for the statistics they maintain on child pornography reports. Less than 1/10th of 1% of the reports are related to a legitimate adult business.
We do not want children, either as visitors or performers, on our sites.
All parents should take responsibility to monitor their children and know what they are doing. Anyone allowing their children to appear in provocative poses and situations, even if they are clothed, should have those children taken from their custody.
The idea that this industry reacted in such a despicable manner to the tsunami disaster is both ignorant and incorrect. I resent your categorization of all members of the adult industry being child pornographers. I sincerely hope that you will investigate the facts and publicly retract your comment with an apology.
Oprah is a fraud. I wrote her less than 6mos ago about a serial child rapist, a guy that was part of a ring that forced children to be raped for money, and worse. I asked for help and gave her specifics, including the times and dates of contacts with the two Arizona (Tucson) police agencies (that proved useless and beyond). I even posted on her board and never heard a peep.
And if the cow isn't hypocritical enough, she has openly shared her own experience of being raped and molested by her uncle, even apparently had a show about it and confronted her folks (who were both aware) but didn't involve the law. So she's mighty lenient with her own but has no problem slandering an entire industry. For a better understanding of child porn, we should get in contact with her father and uncle.
I was very insulted by your remark that you made insinuating that pornographers were on planes heading to thailand after the tsunamis to capitalize on shooting child pornography.
You just classified us hard working americans that cater adult materials to adults as criminals and pedophiles by this comment.
You should be more cautious with some of your comments as you are alienating some of your viewers that work in the adult entertainment industry. Child pornographers are the bottom of the barrel and scum, and should be wiped off the face of this earth, Many of us in the Adult Internet Community fight daily to support the protection of children and try to ensure that only legal aged adults have access to our "Adult" materials.
For instance, ASACP, Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection, recieves thousands of reports of child porn sites per month, they assist the FBI in prosecuting the people who publish and produce this material..
Many industry leaders are supporters of this organization as are MANY other companies and webmasters.
In the future we would appreciate it if you do not class "Pornographers" as "Child Pornographers" there are BIG differences.
For those of you who'd like to write or call Oprah. I'm sure she'll pick up the phone herself.
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The reason we care is because, while some of us couldn't care less what Oprah says on national television, the legions of soccer mom sheep that DO hang on her every word are VOTERS, and voters listen to the popular media and base a lot of their opinions (and preconceived notions) on what they hear. Personally I don't care what Oprah thinks, but it doesn't mean she doesn't have a variable level of influence on the general public.
Please be aware, Oprah as many people is just unaware of the industry's effort to combat CP and protect children, so when you email or fax, please try to inform and educate.
Thank you
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Please be aware, Oprah as many people is just unaware of the industry's effort to combat CP and protect children, so when you email or fax, please try to inform and educate.
Thank you
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Good advice Joan. I don't think it will get very far if everyone emails her and calls her a fat hoe. LOL... Anyway I haven't sent this yet so guys, let me know what you think first.
What do you think, Joan? Hope things are well for you.
"Those who produce child pornography are no more a part of the adult industry than a crystal meth lab and the gang of bikers and junkies selling it, are a part of the pharmaceutical industry."
Pisses me off!! I am going to write something up for her tonight. She can look at the tsunami auction and see what awful people all of us perverts are.
RRED, your letter looks good - if I were you I'd make it a little more clear that the adult online community donated all that money to those auctions...it's such a good point - and Oprah really smacks us all in the face when she lumps us in with c p .
and nobody has yet mentioned the ugliest part of Oprah misrepresenting who child rapists actually are...which is just that, it helps to confuse and dilute the issue, detracting from the actual perpetrators. That's the main reason that this kind of slander is so harmful. The consequences are to numerous to mention but a few are:
people who know others in the adult business and know they aren't child rapists may then have doubts concerning true offenders ( "...gee, maybe this guy isn't all that guilty some people call anyone in such-and-such industry, child rapists..");
or "why should I even report such a crime if I know it to be true, hell there's a whole industry of people doing it and I wouldn't want to take on a crowd like that..";
or "...looks like there are more of em than I thought, must be systematic, must be rooted in sociological problems...";
and of course there are all those that define "normal" as that which most, or even "a lot" of people are doing, so it pushes the "it's normal" line closer, at least creates more distance from the "it's abnormal", and especially from the "it's completely fucking unacceptable"
Just when the adult industry is going through enough misfortune at the hands of our elected government over 2257, the fact that Oprah makes such a patently uninformed (and closed-minded) accusation about "pornographers" is just sickening. I'm glad to see that so many of you have taken the time to write Oprah expressing your (our) views on her horrible misrepresentation of this industry.
I just got off the phone with Grace from the ASACP, and they're currently in the process of contacting Oprah's producers to arrange some airtime for Joan to appear on the show and help put to rest the notion that the LEGITIMATE adult industry is even remotely supportive of CP. As the front-line in the battle against sexual exploitation of children online, ASACP is in a prime position to publicly illustrate the fact that mainstream adult companies are in fact contributing considerable time and funds to combat this scurge.
Please continue to write to the Oprah folks by using this page:
With any luck, these emails might be enough to help get Joan an opportunity to appear on the show. She is a tremendous representative for our industry and will do a great job on our behalf, much like when she was interviewed by Barbara Walters on The View.
The time is NOW to do our part in squelching this unfortunately far-reaching smear on legitimate adult companies all over the world. Because like it or not, Oprah's influence goes beyond our borders.
Absolutely. I sent my email too. I also believe that Oprah is riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions, and in more ways than not has less integrity than this industry as a whole. An articulate representative of the industry will nail her down.
This may be inconsequential, but I think one small adjustment on our side is to not refer to the industry as 'pornographers'. I'm not an attorney to place exact wording but I do think that word carries somewhat of a negative connotation, particularly when dealing with sheep-like followers of the Oprah crowd.
I have emailed, faxed and fedexed! Calling didn;t get me anywhere. I am now waiting for a few people to get back with me with direct contacts which is the best way to go. I'll keep you informed.
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I deeply resent your statement: "pornographers hopping on a plane after the Tsunami to shoot child porn"
I am a 34 year old "pornographer" (www.kickass.com) married for 7 years, with two wonderful children.
Please allow airtime to correct this horrendous misconception equating pornography with child-abuse. Also correct the misconception that the Adult Entertainment industry made malicious movements towards the tsunami victimes in the East. In fact, we organized a fund raiser to support those unfortunate victims.
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I have emailed, faxed and fedexed! Calling didn;t get me anywhere. I am now waiting for a few people to get back with me with direct contacts which is the best way to go. I'll keep you informed.
awesome Joan! Please do!
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