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Originally Posted by CDSmith
This post troubles me in a few ways.
First off, you don't issue prize cheques and then change banks and leave no money in your previous account to cover the prizes. Not smart right there, and it tells me that the existance of this thread isn't exactly Iggy's fault, it's yours.
Second, I read your contest rules in that thread you had going. You made no mention of the fact that it was mandatory that webmasters send you hits in order to win. Yes, it is customary to hope that they will send hits to the program, but that wasn't a hard and fast rule. Of course you're going to get a few people signing up who don't send hits, how can you be surprised by this? This point is neither here nor there anyway. Hard to believe you are now implying that because he sent you no traffic he is somehow less deserving of the prize money. That's a very dumb thing to be saying.
Thirdly, if you are sick of threads like this then in future you best make damned sure something like this never happens again. AND, try to be less confrontational when you DO have to post something in the way of dealing with a complaint.
Fourth -- that last item about you putting something fishy in your freehost.... your response tells me that you may actually have done something like that and that you don't give a shit about anyone's complaints about it, and that you will turn a deaf ear to said compaints. I don't know what kind of business manuel you're working from but I would suggest tossing it in the trash and getting a new one.
Threads like this don't have to happen, and I don't like seeing them any more than you do. I hate seeing this sort of horseshit going on every damned week in the community that I do business in. Hate it. But if you're looking to assign blame for this particular thread you best quit trying to deflect it and take some responsibility for your own mistakes.
And you know.... I wouldn't go mentioning irrelivant information like somone not sending any traffic. You never know if a few weeks or a few months from now someone won't start sending a shitload of hits and signups. Your comment to that point seems like very short-term thinking to me.
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VERY well said by Smitty (as usual). :thumbsup :thumbsup
One of the things that is humoring, yet insulting in the community are some of these companies, sponsors, whatever who belittle their own affiliates. ANY time some board drama makes a remark about their company, they start more a less insulting, or trying to find the loop holes (no traffic, no e-mails, no correspondace, etc). Like it is the affiliate or customer's fault. I've fell victim to this a time or two myself.
When will some of the people in this industry get Customer Service 101, or Business 101 in their heads and stop this bullshit. Now I am sure some people have jumped the gun in the past, but I have seen some more reputable names on GFY having problems with certain companies and I know these gents. I know they would have exhausted every option before ever taking it to the boards.
So you not only come on the boards to defend you company, and little turf throwing blame all over the place except accepting it. If you owe someone money, just pay them. He won a contest, you owe him money, sure he did not send hits, but as Smitty pointed out, you did not specify him/others to. If you do not want your sht drug through the mud, then pay people what you owe them in a timely fashion.
From what I can tell from the posts, apparently you were moving bank accounts, and your e-mail had gremlins as there was no message sent out to contest winners, you are apparently not receiving e-mails, nor can write them back. Sounds like you have more than one issue going on here.
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i never heard anything back, and I personally don't think I should have to track people down to get money....
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Jace has a point as well. I had to do this just last week, and normally I am too busy to go through some 30=40 affiliates to make sure their checks are coming in a timely fashion, and one of my sponsors I had not received a check from, which they said had been sent June 1st. I contacted them, and they checked to make sure had not been cashed, and issued a new check w/i 24-36 hours (don't have epassporte). Situation resolved.
I, and most webmasters are busy. We do not get to sit around with our thumbs up our asses, nor spend hours e-mailing, ICQing, and tracking all this shit down. Much less following up on it repeatedly. Whether $35 or $35000.00.
One of the keys to ANY successful business, adult or otherwise is TRUST. Affiliates are YOUR customers, and you should take care fo them as such. If we/they/me can't trust you, then it's only a matter of time before you are dropped. Whne word spreads, others will as well. Noone has time to track down money you fucking owe.
I do not know Jace well enough to make a character assessment, but I know Iggy is a class act. So if he took it to the boards, he had cause.
Pay the winenrs. End of drama.
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