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Old 07-03-2005, 09:42 AM   #1
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Another Christian Sex Offender

Joseph Edward Duncan III, a registered Level III Sex Offender from Fargo, N.D. and the man who was just arrested for kidnapping those two kids in Idaho, was a Christian.

Many of you read my Donny's Ramblings blog. So you may be aware that just a few days ago I blogged about the connection between most serial killers and Christianity.

Today I'm reading through this sick fucks blog and notice that he's constantly talking about God and losing his faith, etc.

Damn, religion fucks people up.
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:53 AM   #2
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It isn't as much Christianity as which brands or sects. American flavor Protestants have lost one of the major doctorines of European Christian faith - freedom of choice (St. Augustine) based from the concept of original sin. Don't forget that alot of these ultra-conservative sects moved to the U.S. because their views were considered too out of the mainstream in Europe - a highly regulated and structured way of life leads to Heaven.
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:58 AM   #3
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All I know is that there have been many people who's heads are FUBAR because of religious crap. Religion is good at making people feel worthless and bad about themselves.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:06 AM   #4
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Religion is good at making people feel worthless and bad about themselves.
Any religion that places a rigorous system on its people is solely out for power and money. Why the need for control?
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:10 AM   #5
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There are murders, kidnappings etc. every day across this country. 100's. 1 guy shows up on the news in a big story and for you it becomes that they are mostly Christian...LOL

You're hearing about the big stories. There are 100's, 1,000's of little stories...and I'm sure 99.9% of prisoners were fundamentalist christians...LOL...use your brain for thinking not hating.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:13 AM   #6
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There are murders, kidnappings etc. every day across this country. 100's. 1 guy shows up on the news in a big story and for you it becomes that they are mostly Christian...LOL

You're hearing about the big stories. There are 100's, 1,000's of little stories...and I'm sure 99.9% of prisoners were fundamentalist christians...LOL...use your brain for thinking not hating.

Take a look at the history of every serial killer. Most of them have a fundamentalist background.

Now let me ask you: how many priests have been molesting kids?
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:21 AM   #7
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Take a look at the history of every serial killer. Most of them have a fundamentalist background.

Now let me ask you: how many priests have been molesting kids?
I read the statistics recently on CNN.com. Since 1950 nearly 4% of all priests were either accused or convicted of a sexual offense with a minor.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:41 AM   #8
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Well, anyone who is a fundamentalist is pretty screwed up to start with. It's sort of a chicken or egg problem I think. Most recovering drug addicts I've ever seen/met had become "born again"... weak people need a crutch.

Anyway, I'm biased. I think anyone who believes the earth is 12k years old, and that the virgin mary was a virgin, hasn't been outside very much.
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:53 AM   #9
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Take a look at the history of every serial killer. Most of them have a fundamentalist background.

Now let me ask you: how many priests have been molesting kids?
And think outside of your little pigeon hole.

how many kids are being molested every day?

And how many of those molestors are priests?

Jesus man...I know you hate Christianity, but Christianity hates you too...LOL and your ignorance is almost as glaring.
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:55 AM   #10
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I read the statistics recently on CNN.com. Since 1950 nearly 4% of all priests were either accused or convicted of a sexual offense with a minor.

So using Donovans logic that means the other 96% were Southern Baptist preachers.
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:57 AM   #11
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All I know is that there have been many people who's heads are FUBAR because of religious crap. Religion is good at making people feel worthless and bad about themselves.

Did it ever cross your mind that people like to make excuses, and refuse to accept responsibility for their actions?

Considering the number of Christians out there it is no wonder that some might be sex offenders, cops, firemen, presidents, murderers, bank robbers, gang bangers, doctors, nurses, pornographers, queens, architechs, football players, golfers, bikers, swimmers.

His blaming Christianity for being a sex offender is just as inane as your suggestion that it is the cause.

I am willing to bet you can find agnostics, Muslims, athiests, Jews, Hindu and pagans that are sex offenders too.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:02 PM   #13
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Now let me ask you: how many priests have been molesting kids?

Why don't you educate us? How many?
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:03 PM   #14
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I read the statistics recently on CNN.com. Since 1950 nearly 4% of all priests were either accused or convicted of a sexual offense with a minor.

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Old 07-03-2005, 12:34 PM   #15
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I read the statistics recently on CNN.com. Since 1950 nearly 4% of all priests were either accused or convicted of a sexual offense with a minor.
Being accused and being convicted are two entirely different things. It surprises me that any news source would lump the two into the same category to make the figure sound more alarming. An interesting statistic would be what percentage of those accused were convicted.

What i find particularly alarming is the statistics relating to child molestation amongst the general population. They're giving the priests a run for their money. And call me cynical, but given the church's history of settling out of courst, i'd be extremely surprised if a massive number of accusations aren't phony. The church has very deep pockets, afterall.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:44 PM   #16
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Christians fuck up people's minds. Period. I've been around them all my life, as you know if you've read the Luke Ford interview in my sig. My father is a retired Pastor. I know what Christianity does to people better than most here.

Hell, I even have a large portion of scripture memorized. As a Preacher's Kid I was expected to win the Bible Quiz contests, and I did. It wasn't even a challenge.

I speak from experience. I have seen the people who have been completely mind fucked by Christians. They are made to feel like they are sinners and worthless. That is preached at every church, actually.

"For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God". "The wages of sin is death..."

People are told they are worthless without God. This is preached from every Christian pulpit. Yes, EVERY Christian pulpit. When people are "livin' for the Lord" they are welcomed. When they fuck up they are shunned. This treatment fuels a lot of self destructive behavior.

The sad part is that the people who self destruct desperately want to return to the "flock". They do everything they can to be accepted. When they finally realize they're human and will never "measure up", many of them give up on living a decent life. They incorrectly equate Christianity with good living and feel that nothing outside of it is pure or worthwhile.

Many of these people, when their worlds crash, turn to drugs, alchohol, or crime.

Again, I've seen it happen since I was old enough to remember. This is not Donny talking out his ass. This is not "ignorance". This is experience.
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Christians fuck up people's minds. Period. I've been around them all my life, as you know if you've read the Luke Ford interview in my sig. My father is a retired Pastor. I know what Christianity does to people better than most here.

Hell, I even have a large portion of scripture memorized. As a Preacher's Kid I was expected to win the Bible Quiz contests, and I did. It wasn't even a challenge.

I speak from experience. I have seen the people who have been completely mind fucked by Christians. They are made to feel like they are sinners and worthless. That is preached at every church, actually.

"For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God". "The wages of sin is death..."

People are told they are worthless without God. This is preached from every Christian pulpit. Yes, EVERY Christian pulpit. When people are "livin' for the Lord" they are welcomed. When they fuck up they are shunned. This treatment fuels a lot of self destructive behavior.

The sad part is that the people who self destruct desperately want to return to the "flock". They do everything they can to be accepted. When they finally realize they're human and will never "measure up", many of them give up on living a decent life. They incorrectly equate Christianity with good living and feel that nothing outside of it is pure or worthwhile.

Many of these people, when their worlds crash, turn to drugs, alchohol, or crime.

Again, I've seen it happen since I was old enough to remember. This is not Donny talking out his ass. This is not "ignorance". This is experience.
This even extends to my own family. I have many relatives who have ended up in jail.

Are they responsible for their actions? Of course. But I also look a little deeper to the root of the problem. Every single one of them was made to feel worthless by Christians.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:49 PM   #18
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Eros and Baddog... I am out of here. This is a very touchy subject for me and I start feeling anger well up inside when I think back over some of the things I've seen and experienced. The two of you can have your opinions. I disagree. I always will. Christianity (and other religions as well) is a direct cause of a lot of pain and suffering. Think about Crusades, Holy Wars, genocides...

Ignorance, Eros? I think not.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:51 PM   #19
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Have you seen a miracle? Walking on water, ghosts, aliens?
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Christians fuck up people's minds. Period. I've been around them all my life, as you know if you've read the Luke Ford interview in my sig. My father is a retired Pastor. I know what Christianity does to people better than most here.

With all due respect, did it ever dawn on you that the problem isn't Christianity, but rather the cult your father led?

Then again, maybe it just fucks with people that have weak minds.
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Damn, religion fucks people up.
lol, ok dude. Are you atheist?
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People are told they are worthless without God. This is preached from every Christian pulpit. Yes, EVERY Christian pulpit
Is that a CA Christian thing?



As an atheist... I think you're more of a fool than any Christian I've ever met.
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It's actually people that is fucked--worse, they are the once fucking the religions.
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Old 07-03-2005, 07:23 PM   #25
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Urgh -- Forget it...

Donnie's the smartest guy in the room (ask him).

Atheists commit no crimes and are the bedrock of society.
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Old 07-03-2005, 07:30 PM   #26
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just to chime in, i went to a catholic school as a child and had my arm strapped to a chair arm to thwart me from writing w/ my left-hand (i am *indeed* left-handed)... this was explained as tolerable treatment to my parents as "any work done w/ the left hand is the *devils work*..

fuck the skull of jesus..
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