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Old 07-03-2005, 10:44 AM   #1
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Ron Harris Cash Boxoffice Program Question

hello, i have been using Ron Harris-Cash Boxoffice program for the past few months, i just checked my stats on that.
for about 20,000 visits to the galeries (CCbill stats) there was not a single conversion... which makes it THE worst sponsor i have EVER used.

i dont want to badmouth the program in anyway, he has some of the best babes in his galleries, so this doesnt makes much sense... i know it all depends in the type of trafic i get on my pages (tgp trafic from trades) and the category... but i'd like to have your view and stats just to see if its just me or it converts bad for you also

i'll definitely drop him but i want to have your view also,
thanks
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:45 AM   #2
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0:20,000 !!
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:47 AM   #3
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How are you linking to the galleries from your TGPs?
via CCBill link?

If so, you're not getting the real CTR.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:48 AM   #4
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i didnt post here to get a fucking colection of mindless replies from post sig whores.
i'd rather have the opinion of people that have actually used the program, thank you and please resist the temptation to post shit
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:49 AM   #5
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How are you linking to the galleries from your TGPs?
via CCBill link?

If so, you're not getting the real CTR.

yes via ccbill link, what have i done wrong with that?
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:49 AM   #6
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Well, you're a clueless fuck then.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:50 AM   #7
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i didnt post here to get a fucking colection of mindless replies from post sig whores.
i'd rather have the opinion of people that have actually used the program, thank you and please resist the temptation to post shit
Fuck you if you think I am a mindless sig whore. Asshole.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:52 AM   #8
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i see some people just cant resist the temptation
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:56 AM   #9
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sending 20k to a gallery and not getting a signup is nothing out of the ordinary.
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:06 AM   #10
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not A gallery, more like 90 galleries in my 2 tgps
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:07 AM   #11
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not A gallery, more like 90 galleries in my 2 tgps

whatever i sent 10k to a sponsor before from gallery's without a signup and you dont see me brining it to the boards.
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:57 AM   #12
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anyone that has really used the program?
how do you link to them? as it now seems it is a linking problem
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:05 PM   #13
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what the other guy probably meant is:

are you using full ccbiill reflink with &html=gallery ? If so your ratios are always much higher then with gallery&id=xxxxxxx

I always did rather nice with Ron Harris, not over promoted or so.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:13 PM   #14
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I have send him a shit load of traffic too and 0 sales.
I'm pretty sure something is wrong with that program. Of what I can remember I did email them about this but didn't get a reply. Their content is awesome, their program totally sucks !
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:46 PM   #15
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what the other guy probably meant is:

are you using full ccbiill reflink with &html=gallery ? If so your ratios are always much higher then with gallery&id=xxxxxxx

I always did rather nice with Ron Harris, not over promoted or so.

yes i link with the ccbill ref code, and then the gallery url.
example
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ightsindex.htm

as you say, i never over-promoted the program, just normal freehosted galleries on my tgp. thats that.
i have send him an email, waiting for the answer, i'll update you when i get a reply.
in the meantime, i would love to hear from more of people that have used the program, thank you
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:50 PM   #16
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yes via ccbill link, what have i done wrong with that?
this means you got 20000 gallery visits .... which is not more than 200 clicks to the sponsor .
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:55 PM   #17
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I will make a mindless post
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:13 PM   #18
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this means you got 20000 gallery visits .... which is not more than 200 clicks to the sponsor .

20k is like 22% of the total clicks send to all my galleries in the past few months. and those clicks (at least the way they are counted by ccbill) have made me a nice 950$ income. so either there is a mistake in the linking code and i dont get a credit from signups or the linking code is correct and the click count is wrong (the one calculated by ccbill)

the second being a more real possibility. can someone that is using the prograp plz post an exapmpel linking code (to a gallery not the tour page or the site) so i check if there is a mistake there?

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Old 07-03-2005, 01:40 PM   #19
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:57 PM   #20
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20k is like 22% of the total clicks send to all my galleries in the past few months. and those clicks (at least the way they are counted by ccbill) have made me a nice 950$ income. so either there is a mistake in the linking code and i dont get a credit from signups or the linking code is correct and the click count is wrong (the one calculated by ccbill)

the second being a more real possibility. can someone that is using the prograp plz post an exapmpel linking code (to a gallery not the tour page or the site) so i check if there is a mistake there?

thanks
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...dressindex.htm

here is a link to a hosted gallery .... feel free to sign up for a membership
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:06 PM   #21
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http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...dressindex.htm

here is a link to a hosted gallery .... feel free to sign up for a membership

thanks. i see from the ref code that the only difference in my linking is that i use the ? sign ... like

refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA= (my code)
refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgiCA= (your code)

do you think this is what may be wrong?
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:10 PM   #22
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see? sigwhores have a purpose
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:15 PM   #23
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see? sigwhores have a purpose
i hate fucking mancs
a former scauzer here...

funny enough, most of the people that try to help dont have a sig
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:58 PM   #24
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thanks. i see from the ref code that the only difference in my linking is that i use the ? sign ... like

refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA= (my code)
refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgiCA= (your code)

do you think this is what may be wrong?

i have the feeling you have no clue what this topic is about !
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:03 PM   #25
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SO you have send 20K hits to galleries and his program combined(since you can't track the difference in the way you use his hosted galleries)


So let's say 20K gallery hits. WIth a bad 1%CTR that makes 200 possible clicks to the paysite. So you are convverting worse then 1:200

That is not very bad(yet)

Also of course you have to add the ?
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:04 PM   #26
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there is no error in the link code ....
if you use the simple ccbill link to the galleries , every visitor is counted as a click to the sponsor . even if the visitor does NOT click though the gallery to the sponsors site . thats why you have such a shitty ratio . got it ?
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:14 PM   #27
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a former scauzer here...

funny enough, most of the people that try to help dont have a sig
hehe

and isnt it scouser?
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:35 PM   #28
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it is but it sounds more like the way i wrote it.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:38 PM   #29
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there is no error in the link code ....
if you use the simple ccbill link to the galleries , every visitor is counted as a click to the sponsor . even if the visitor does NOT click though the gallery to the sponsors site . thats why you have such a shitty ratio . got it ?

yap, been talking to another guy, just found out that Ronns way of linking counts the first click to galleries, not the "join page" clicks like others do... so those 20k to the galleries could easilly be 200 in the join page... that explains a lot.

thanks for all the input, you all have been of great help.

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not A gallery, more like 90 galleries in my 2 tgps
20 k visits on a gallery isn't enough to judge ...

Some days you can have 200k gallery hits and 0-2 signups ... others 5-10 ...
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Old 07-03-2005, 06:13 PM   #31
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I have send him a shit load of traffic too and 0 sales.

Same here, I got one sale on a buttload of traffic, just move on, in the future, you should just try a few galleries before adding a bunch to see how and if they convert before wasting a bunch of time
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