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alexg 07-01-2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manga1
Israel could not bomb Iran without flying over either Iraq or Saudi Arabia. They would not be able to do this without US permission, which would implicate the US in the bombing. Therefore, Israel will not bomb Iran.

1. maybe it will happen after us exit iraq, and then there will be no permission needed.
2. why would israel need us's permission to fly over saudi arabia?
3. it's also possible to fly over lebanon and syria, and there are more complicated ways too.. look at the map.

it's obvious that israel won't bomb iran without us permission, but permission doesn't mean us will actively involve in the bombing.

alexg 07-01-2005 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
uhhhh... your second post.. !? LOL

You know what nuke means? Attack with nuclear weapons...


:helpme

i already commented on this in one of my above posts.

i meant to say BOMB instead of NUKE.

directfiesta 07-01-2005 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
I don't know if Israel has WMD. how did you derive from what I said that Israel has WMD?

Let me educate you:

http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/pix/pic13.jpg

Quote:

Mordechai Vanunu brought his camera to work in late 1985, shortly before leaving his eight-year stint as a technician at Israel's nuclear weapons factory at Dimona.

Acting on his conscience, he carefully took about 60 photos of the top-secret labs and unique production processes involved. When some of these photos were originally published in the London Sunday Times' exposé, they confirmed his eyewitness testimony about the extent of Israel's nuclear weapons program and revealed Israel to be one of the world's top nuclear powers. To this day, the Israeli government refuses international inspection of Dimona and continues to deny the existence of its nuclear arsenal. [click here for more of Vanunu's story: archive/story.html]

While their publication resulted in Vanunu being locked away for an 18-year prison sentence, his photographs of Israel's nuclear weapons factory - a bold statement against nuclear secrecy and for the abolition of nuclear weapons - are here for all to see.

Click on the thumbnail views below to see the full-size photos in this selection.

http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/photos.html

Plenty of pictures for the tinfoil hats ....

BabeHunter 07-01-2005 12:35 PM

YES
:pimp

josian 07-01-2005 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy
But they still don't have Bin laden :(

OAahoahaooaoah!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

patrack 07-01-2005 12:42 PM

beware guys, alexg is a MOSSAD agent

alexg 07-01-2005 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Let me educate you:

http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/pix/pic13.jpg



Plenty of pictures for the tinfoil hats ....

I know all about that, no need to educate me on this...

to be honest, I do believe that Israel has WMD.

I'm not an expert in the nuclear field but I doubt that the photos taken by Vaanunu actually PROVE that Israel has WMD.

I mean:
http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/pix/pic9.jpg
wtf is that?

we have much cooler stuff at the physics lab at the Tel Aviv University :1orglaugh


on a sidenote, my opinion about Vaanunu:
he's a traitor who after his long stay in prison has become completely insane.
It was a HUGE mistake that this man was given such a sensitive position.

I'm ashamed of the israeli judical system for only giving him 18 years (but it does prove that what he knows doesn't prove anything).

don't you think that if he actually knew something this big, he would be given a life-sentence?

Manga1 07-01-2005 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
1. maybe it will happen after us exit iraq, and then there will be no permission needed.
2. why would israel need us's permission to fly over saudi arabia?
3. it's also possible to fly over lebanon and syria, and there are more complicated ways too.. look at the map.

it's obvious that israel won't bomb iran without us permission, but permission doesn't mean us will actively involve in the bombing.

Look at the map??? Are you for real? How does flying over Syria or Lebanon get Israel to Iran? You're the one who should be looking at maps. The only way Israel can bomb Iran is by flying over Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

As for why they would need US permission to fly over Saudi Arabia, well I'll let you read between the lines on that one.

directfiesta 07-01-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
but it does prove that what he knows doesn't prove anything

Let me analyse this ... Overload... Overload ... Danger ... Overload ... Can't comprehend...Overload... OVERLOAD... POUFFFFF !!!!!

Proof against Sadaam was much more credible ... :1orglaugh

ISRAEL HAS WMD... END OF DISCUSSION...

alexg 07-01-2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Let me analyse this ... Overload... Overload ... Danger ... Overload ... Can't comprehend...Overload... OVERLOAD... POUFFFFF !!!!!

Proof against Sadaam was much more credible ... :1orglaugh

ISRAEL HAS WMD... END OF DISCUSSION...

I'm glad you've reached an orgasm..

no, proof against saddam wasn't credible, and i don't see why you're involving this. our discussion was about israel.

and now you're probably thinking "so why doesn't anyone invade israel, if there is a good probability that it has wmd?"
well, that's because of the common sense reason i was talking about earlier.

israel having wmd = ok
extrimist muslims having them = bad

woj 07-01-2005 12:59 PM

50.....,....

alexg 07-01-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manga1
Look at the map??? Are you for real? How does flying over Syria or Lebanon get Israel to Iran? You're the one who should be looking at maps. The only way Israel can bomb Iran is by flying over Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

As for why they would need US permission to fly over Saudi Arabia, well I'll let you read between the lines on that one.

Israel has these elite planes that can make 0-360 degreees turns :1orglaugh

directfiesta 07-01-2005 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
if there is a good probability that it has wmd?

Probability ???? You are kidding right ???

The arsenal of an undeclared Nuclear power

This is from US sources !!!!! Not Muslims ... as you would wish ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
israel having wmd = ok
extrimist muslims having them = bad

Little biased, don't you think ...

I would suppose that the Iranians think the same way, but in reverse ...
BTW, what have the Iranians done ??? Kick out the US puppet ( the Shah) , taken over a spy center ( the US Embassy ) .... Are they also responsible for 9/11 ???

Rich 07-01-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
haha.. you think Isreal will fucking drop an atomic bomb on Iran

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
do you even read?
where did I say that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
seriously though, i believe that eventually israel will nuke iran


You really are fucking stupid.

Antonio 07-01-2005 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
I assume you have no military background or intelligence on this matter then.

Hell, The US Navy has a bigger air force than The US Airforce.

ok cookie here are some facts:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/isra..._inventory.htm

The US operates a fleet of more than 15,000 aircraft, including 20 stealth bombers in service (older data).

You might argue that Izrael has more cut cocks per capita compared to the USA but that's entirely different matter.

alexg 07-01-2005 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Probability ???? You are kidding right ???

The arsenal of an undeclared Nuclear power

This is from US sources !!!!! Not Muslims ... as you would wish ...

Once again, I never denied that Israel has WMD. however, such page as you just showed is clearly inacurate and is made for higher 'news rating'. just as an example, many of the places that are shown on this map have nothing to do with any nuclear plans, for example rafael, which is a conventional weapons development organisation. also, all these numbers about how many kilograms of plutonium is produced in dimona every year and such bullshit, i highly doubt that these are facts.

Quote:

what have the Iranians done ??? Kick out the US puppet ( the Shah) , taken over a spy center ( the US Embassy ) .... Are they also responsible for 9/11 ???
repeated parades where their leaders publically and officially call for the eradication of Israel, proven funding and weapon supplying for terrorist organisations...
this will do for now.

alexg 07-01-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
You really are fucking stupid.

you're the stupid one.

those who read the whole thread will understand why.

alexg 07-01-2005 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
ok cookie here are some facts:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/isra..._inventory.htm

The US operates a fleet of more than 15,000 aircraft, including 20 stealth bombers in service (older data).

You might argue that Izrael has more cut cocks per capita compared to the USA but that's entirely different matter.

are you guys just trying to misspell the name "ISRAEL" as much as possible? because it's a pretty easy word to spell :1orglaugh

Rich 07-01-2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
you're the stupid one.

those who read the whole thread will understand why.

Because you backtracked and said you didn't know the meaning of the word nuke? What the fuck could you possibly have though nuke meant? Either way, you've proved your stupidity once again.

alexg 07-01-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Because you backtracked and said you didn't know the meaning of the word nuke? What the fuck could you possibly have though nuke meant? Either way, you've proved your stupidity once again.

i did know the meaning but i didn't put much thought into it when i wrote the sentence. for the last time, i meant to say BOMB.

if you don't have an actual POINT to discuss, please fuck off.

directfiesta 07-01-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
are you guys just trying to misspell the name "ISRAEL" as much as possible? because it's a pretty easy word to spell :1orglaugh

Good one :thumbsup

Let me try:

Hisrael .... :1orglaugh

alexg 07-01-2005 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Good one :thumbsup

Let me try:

Hisrael .... :1orglaugh

Israhell also has a hidden meaning, therefore wins the prize :winkwink:

Antonio 07-01-2005 02:08 PM

iZarel, Izrel, Izzzzzzzzzzzzzzrael
does it make any difference?

Adultnet 07-01-2005 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
i hope that Israel and Iran somehow just cancel each other out.

Then it will be like star wars?

mockingbich 07-01-2005 02:26 PM

Read your BIBLES kiddies...

2500 years ago a jewish prophet predicted that in the last days Israel would be attacked by Russia (the peoples of the extreme north) and Iran (persia)

NO - Israel will not attack Iran

YES - Iran and Russian alliance will attack Israel

You can already see the politics working... THere is no need to attack Iran. They are surrounded and slowly being squeezed out of power. It is often said that Iran is the most pro-west country in the middle east. The Persian people hate the Mullahs

This means the mullahs have no choice but a sneak attack. If they do not attack they will lose power peacefully... so they will lash out in a desperate attempt to maintain control of their own country.

Russia is also in deep shit. THey are slowly losing their eastern territories to Chinese immigration. They're population is declining and they are losing influence over their former satellites. A sneak attack on Israel and a power play for control of middle east oil is the ONLY option to restore Russia to it's former imperial glory of the Soviet Union

rambler 07-01-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
Read your BIBLES kiddies...

2500 years ago a jewish prophet predicted that in the last days Israel would be attacked by Russia (the peoples of the extreme north) and Iran (persia)

NO - Israel will not attack Iran

YES - Iran and Russian alliance will attack Israel

You can already see the politics working... THere is no need to attack Iran. They are surrounded and slowly being squeezed out of power. It is often said that Iran is the most pro-west country in the middle east. The Persian people hate the Mullahs

This means the mullahs have no choice but a sneak attack. If they do not attack they will lose power peacefully... so they will lash out in a desperate attempt to maintain control of their own country.

Russia is also in deep shit. THey are slowly losing their eastern territories to Chinese immigration. They're population is declining and they are losing influence over their former satellites. A sneak attack on Israel and a power play for control of middle east oil is the ONLY option to restore Russia to it's former imperial glory of the Soviet Union

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You're even funnier than alexG.

Adultnet 07-01-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambler
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You're even funnier than alexG.

its too Stupid... lol :)

mockingbich 07-01-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
THe NeoCons CANT wait to attack Iran... Read PNAC... Also note that top Neocon Henry Kissenger said that going to war with Iran was a "foregone conclusion"... consider it done.. :2 cents:

You're correct that war with Iran is inevitable

what you're not thinking is that Kissinger is expecting Iran to attack first

johnshinil 07-01-2005 02:35 PM

Jews or no Jews, Iran needs to be neautralized before it's too late.

JohnShinil.

mockingbich 07-01-2005 02:35 PM

Forget the bible

Why wouldn't Iran attack Israel first?

Are you jew-haters capable of forming your own opinion... Or do you just wait for marching orders from the democratic underground?

Adultnet 07-01-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
Forget the bible Why wouldn't Iran attack Israel first?

They can attack first but then Israel will fight them with all its power and israel has there way more power and forces then the us used against Iraq. :upsidedow

mockingbich 07-01-2005 02:46 PM

Here's a mural that was painted at the denver international airport back when I was in college around 1995-96. In the event of an emergency in Washington DC... DIA is capable of transforming into a temporary capital.

IS this artwork a message from the US government about what the future of IRan and Russia will be???

http://www.lvlegs-video.com/denver/Denver2.jpg http://www.lvlegs-video.com/denver/murals04.jpg http://www.lvlegs-video.com/denver/denver-mural7xx.jpg http://www.lvlegs-video.com/denver/Denver3.jpg

Naah it's all bullshit... just a weird painting

rambler 07-01-2005 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
Forget the bible

Why wouldn't Iran attack Israel first?....

Are you really that dense?

I hope you're just fucking around on these boards 'cause if you really are this stupid, I feel sorry for you. :(

mockingbich 07-01-2005 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambler
Are you really that dense?

I hope you're just fucking around on these boards 'cause if you really are this stupid, I feel sorry for you. :(

Why wouldn't Iran attack first? NOt necessarily today, or tomorrow... but 2,3, or 4 years from now?

Why - are you too dense to defend your position?

directfiesta 07-01-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
Why wouldn't Iran attack first? NOt necessarily today, or tomorrow... but 2,3, or 4 years from now?

Why - are you too dense to defend your position?


Common...
No way Iran would attack first ... That would labelled them as an Invader instead of a Victim ....
They know that the world would rally against them ...
Just look at Irak invading Kuwait ( tough sanctionned by the US ...)...

And please, keep your " jew-haters " comment for another occasion... Till you hoped in here, there was no comment that can qualify of " jew-hater " ; just a civilized discussion to know how people felt about the possibility of Israel attacking Iran ( which was done 10 years or so ago ).

:2 cents:

rambler 07-01-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
Why wouldn't Iran attack first? NOt necessarily today, or tomorrow... but 2,3, or 4 years from now?

Why - are you too dense to defend your position?

**sigh**

First of all, it is well known that the Israelies have nukes (regardless of AlexG's denials)
Second of all, the Iranians are no match (conventionally) against Israel
Thirdly, Iran knows full well that the US would support Israel(thus, absolutely guaranteeing thier own demise)

FOURTHLY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY:

THE BIBLE IS A BUNCH OF UNSUBSTANTIATED BULLSHIT

alexg 07-01-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambler
**sigh**
(regardless of AlexG's denials)

show me where I denied it

why make shit up dude?

Rich 07-01-2005 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
Read your BIBLES kiddies...

2500 years ago a jewish prophet predicted that in the last days Israel would be attacked by Russia (the peoples of the extreme north) and Iran (persia)

NO - Israel will not attack Iran

YES - Iran and Russian alliance will attack Israel

You can already see the politics working... THere is no need to attack Iran. They are surrounded and slowly being squeezed out of power. It is often said that Iran is the most pro-west country in the middle east. The Persian people hate the Mullahs

This means the mullahs have no choice but a sneak attack. If they do not attack they will lose power peacefully... so they will lash out in a desperate attempt to maintain control of their own country.

Russia is also in deep shit. THey are slowly losing their eastern territories to Chinese immigration. They're population is declining and they are losing influence over their former satellites. A sneak attack on Israel and a power play for control of middle east oil is the ONLY option to restore Russia to it's former imperial glory of the Soviet Union


Bible prophecies aside, I do think there is a real possibility of Russia attacking Israel in the next decade. They're already arming the Palestinians. America wouldn't be able to stop them, they realize they're no match for the alliance of Russia/China/India/Brazil/Iran.

rambler 07-01-2005 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
show me where I denied it

why make shit up dude?

Sorry my mistake. I just assumed you would deny it. :winkwink:

"....I meant bomb not nuke......" :upsidedow

rambler 07-01-2005 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Bible prophecies aside, I do think there is a real possibility of Russia attacking Israel in the next decade. They're already arming the Palestinians. America wouldn't be able to stop them, they realize they're no match for the alliance of Russia/China/India/Brazil/Iran.

I'm shocked!!!!

How could someone of your intellect say such a thing.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the Russians/Indians/Israelies friends?


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