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woj · 07-01-2005, 02:09 PM

50..........

animal mother · 07-01-2005, 02:23 PM

let's review:

slapass starts a thread with the oh-so-diplomatic title: "Fetishbucks, you gutless wonders". "attn: anyone from fetishbucks" wouldn't have accomplished the exact same thing? the thread title and the plug for wegcash and porndollar make it clear what his intentions for the thread were, and it wasn't to resolve the issue.

V rocks, who to my knowledge has no connection whatsoever to the issue, states "they suck". he then adds, without anyone from fetishbucks having had a chance to respond yet, "Finally, I was wondering what sponsor I shouldn't start promoting. Thanks for letting me know...Not to change the subject but XXL-CASH sucks too...I have waited 5 pay periods for a measly $300 bucks and am still waiting. Tried setting it to epassporte, wire and check. Emails, ICQ...I think they must sleep in the same bed as Fetish Bucks..."

when i responded i never called anyone a douche. i said there was "either some mistake or the thread starter is simply a raving douche", a strong possibility in my mind considering the thread title.

in a different thread slapass had requested my icq#. as soon as i saw the request i posted it.

3 hours later, without ever bothering to see if i had responded, slapass is back whining about how he can't get a response out of anyone. that's when i called him a crybaby.

now, i'm brand new here and obviously am not totally familiar with exactly how things work. i'm basing that on the responses my posts have generated. it's certainly not my intention to drive business away or do anything to hurt dig420's relationships with his affiliates. what i saw was someone who wasn't trying to resolve an issue but someone who was trying to defame the company and drive away potential future business partners and i was simply trying to defend the company.

now serious question here: regardless of what an affiliate says or implies about your company, is it considered wrong to vehemently defend yourself simply because he/she is an affiliate? i'm really asking becasue that seems to be the case based on the reactions i've drawn here.

if that is the case then i offer my apology to slapass right here and now.

Forkbeard · 07-01-2005, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by animal mother

now serious question here: regardless of what an affiliate says or implies about your company, is it considered wrong to vehemently defend yourself simply because he/she is an affiliate? i'm really asking becasue that seems to be the case based on the reactions i've drawn here.

"Vehement" does not mean "rude". It can be OK to be vehement. It's never OK to be rude and call names when you are representing anyone but your own personal self -- and it's usually not smart even then.

07-01-2005, 02:32 PM

well ........... you are representing the company right ?
and slapass was/is an affiliate right ?
when representing any company you should and I will type this very very very slowly never ever call people names but try to resolve the matter as quickly as possible.
simple !

slapass · 07-01-2005, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack

I have had the pleasure of getting traffic from slapass in the past. It was always gold. I know this because while he never sent a mass amount of traffic.

It was VERY targeted and converted at a ridiculous ratio. Which caused me to review his account a few times. Always checked out, always good.

btw Slapass if you have a spare traffic lying around hit me up on icq. Lets get you set up with us and making some money. I'd love to work with you again.

Mack, will do and thanks for the kind words.

I have to read through the rest of the thread and I am sure i get it from both sides and probably deservedly.

animal mother · 07-01-2005, 02:36 PM

fair enough.

i'm coming from my usual board where calling someone a cocksucker is like saying hello and flamewars are started about every 5 minutes and forgotten just as quickly.

slapass · 07-01-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by animal mother

let's review:

slapass starts a thread with the oh-so-diplomatic title: "Fetishbucks, you gutless wonders". "attn: anyone from fetishbucks" wouldn't have accomplished the exact same thing? the thread title and the plug for wegcash and porndollar make it clear what his intentions for the thread were, and it wasn't to resolve the issue.

V rocks, who to my knowledge has no connection whatsoever to the issue, states "they suck". he then adds, without anyone from fetishbucks having had a chance to respond yet, "Finally, I was wondering what sponsor I shouldn't start promoting. Thanks for letting me know...Not to change the subject but XXL-CASH sucks too...I have waited 5 pay periods for a measly $300 bucks and am still waiting. Tried setting it to epassporte, wire and check. Emails, ICQ...I think they must sleep in the same bed as Fetish Bucks..."

when i responded i never called anyone a douche. i said there was "either some mistake or the thread starter is simply a raving douche", a strong possibility in my mind considering the thread title.

in a different thread slapass had requested my icq#. as soon as i saw the request i posted it.

3 hours later, without ever bothering to see if i had responded, slapass is back whining about how he can't get a response out of anyone. that's when i called him a crybaby.

now, i'm brand new here and obviously am not totally familiar with exactly how things work. i'm basing that on the responses my posts have generated. it's certainly not my intention to drive business away or do anything to hurt dig420's relationships with his affiliates. what i saw was someone who wasn't trying to resolve an issue but someone who was trying to defame the company and drive away potential future business partners and i was simply trying to defend the company.

now serious question here: regardless of what an affiliate says or implies about your company, is it considered wrong to vehemently defend yourself simply because he/she is an affiliate? i'm really asking becasue that seems to be the case based on the reactions i've drawn here.

if that is the case then i offer my apology to slapass right here and now.

Yep, the title was watered down. Thanks for the support from those who did. I am really not looking for the cash. If he was losing cash on me that is fine to call it quits. The traffic is tricky.

I see others have done good buisness with this guy so who knows. Shit happens.

dirtysouth · 07-01-2005, 02:53 PM

Just a friendly reminder: Dirty Duckets are fucking scammers as well!

animal mother · 07-01-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtysouth

Just a friendly reminder: Dirty Duckets are fucking scammers as well!

see this is the perception i'm trying to avoid here, the "as well". nobody is getting scammed here. this issue will be resolved and in a manner i'm sure slapass can live with.

dig420 · 07-01-2005, 03:10 PM

ok finally back online. I have two issues to address here, number one being why we've been down and number two the affiliate issues.

Our network was severely compromised by an employee with very bad judgement. I can't get into details and the problem is nothing that affects our webmasters, but the whole network had to be taken down. Of course we have a backup network that duplicates everything we have online at a remote location, but the backup network isn't capable of serving everything up, it's just set up for data storage. We have darkcavern online again at the secondary network but there are a few glitches that have to be fixed up by Mikey before I can call the site active again. It will be by this evening. What happened to us could have happened to any company, it's a shitty thing and a real smack in the face, but it's nothing that's going to cause long-term damage, thank god. When I can talk more about it I will. New servers are going in at our primary facility and everything will be back up and running normally as soon as possible.

As for the affiliates: installing executive stats gave us a new insight into the profitability of some of our resellers, and we termed quite a few accounts, mostly for non-conversion. We handle exit traffic from a few of the largest reseller programs in the business. We handle SEO traffic. We handle mailer traffic, and all these traffic streams do very well with us on most of our reseller accounts. The accounts that got termed were, for example, accounts that were sending 50 joins every week with one or maybe two conversions, no verifiable referring url, etc and so on. Some of the accounts were for mailers that weren't converting who had not contacted us prior to sending the traffic so that we could see what we were getting. Listen: If someone sends you 50 joins at least 15 of them will convert just by forgetting to cancel. When NONE of them convert you can be absolutely goddam sure someone is fucking you, and we're not here to be fucked.

Many of the termed accounts had been sending me absolute shit traffic for months and getting paid for it, traffic that would have gotten them immediately termed most places and they should just be damn glad they got so much money from us for so long and recognize that the gravy train is now officially off the rails. I don't know exactly what the deal with slapass is as I can't access the stats at the moment, but I'll be looking into this as soon as I'm able and I'll be back to the board with either an apology or a slapdown.

The people that know me in this business know that I don't fuck anybody. EVER. And I'm not about to start now. All accounts that have been sending us productive traffic are going to be fully compensated for the downtime, we're going to average out their sales and pay them accordingly for every day the sites aren't up. This whole mess isn't going to cost them a dime and I'm going to make sure of that. This whole episode has been a wake up call to me, and my last word on this for the time being is a message to program owners. Hire a tech to check on your other techs. Be a hardass, install monitoring software, make them sit where you can see their monitors, do whatever you have to protect your ass. One bad apple can cause so many problems you won't even believe it until you're in this situation.

My thanks to Mikey, Animal Mother - just doing what he thought was right - and all my other employees and resellers without whom I would be nothing. This whole situation has been a learning experience, and I'm taking the lessons to heart.

Manowar · 07-01-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

Slapass and V_Rocks

Do you have ICQ?

hit me up 216233171

Just wanna chat about some things

i guess no one wants to talk

TDF · 07-01-2005, 03:17 PM

I wonder what percentage of GFY would last in a real management position in mainstream with this attitude.This industry seems to be full of dicks and pussies

blackmonsters · 07-01-2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by animal mother

let's review:

slapass starts a thread with the oh-so-diplomatic title: "Fetishbucks, you gutless wonders". "attn: anyone from fetishbucks" wouldn't have accomplished the exact same thing? the thread title and the plug for wegcash and porndollar make it clear what his intentions for the thread were, and it wasn't to resolve the issue.

V rocks, who to my knowledge has no connection whatsoever to the issue, states "they suck". he then adds, without anyone from fetishbucks having had a chance to respond yet, "Finally, I was wondering what sponsor I shouldn't start promoting. Thanks for letting me know...Not to change the subject but XXL-CASH sucks too...I have waited 5 pay periods for a measly $300 bucks and am still waiting. Tried setting it to epassporte, wire and check. Emails, ICQ...I think they must sleep in the same bed as Fetish Bucks..."

when i responded i never called anyone a douche. i said there was "either some mistake or the thread starter is simply a raving douche", a strong possibility in my mind considering the thread title.

in a different thread slapass had requested my icq#. as soon as i saw the request i posted it.

3 hours later, without ever bothering to see if i had responded, slapass is back whining about how he can't get a response out of anyone. that's when i called him a crybaby.

now, i'm brand new here and obviously am not totally familiar with exactly how things work. i'm basing that on the responses my posts have generated. it's certainly not my intention to drive business away or do anything to hurt dig420's relationships with his affiliates. what i saw was someone who wasn't trying to resolve an issue but someone who was trying to defame the company and drive away potential future business partners and i was simply trying to defend the company.

now serious question here: regardless of what an affiliate says or implies about your company, is it considered wrong to vehemently defend yourself simply because he/she is an affiliate? i'm really asking becasue that seems to be the case based on the reactions i've drawn here.

if that is the case then i offer my apology to slapass right here and now.

Hint: We don't give a shit about webmasters ranting. We only give a shit about sponsors ranting.

XPays · 07-01-2005, 03:27 PM

bernard (dig410) apparently appeared to allegedly rip his own partners off when we bought sexpays.com from him under the table and paid him direct and then once the domain propagated to us- his own business partners and webmasters started calling and writing as he gave them no notice. it appears he split with the cash fyi. be careful - not sure if he has changed at all since we have never done any business with bernard since then.

slapass is good people - this we know for sure.

if you cannot make money with his traffic then you should pay for the traffic you already took and have a little class.

blackmonsters · 07-01-2005, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

As for the affiliates: installing executive stats gave us a new insight into the profitability of some of our resellers, and we termed quite a few accounts, mostly for non-conversion.
The accounts that got termed were, for example, accounts that were sending 50 joins every week with one or maybe two conversions, no verifiable referring url, etc and so on.

You mean you don't like webmasters who send bulk email with instuctions of how to sign up and then cancel before they get charged again.

What's wrong with promissing secret underage asian girls on your afro-milf sites?

How Dare You?!

dig420 · 07-01-2005, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

bernard (dig410) apparently appeared to allegedly rip his own partners off when we bought sexpays.com from him under the table and paid him direct and then once the domain propagated to us- his own business partners and webmasters started calling and writing as he gave them no notice. it appears he split with the cash fyi. be careful - not sure if he has changed at all since we have never done any business with bernard since then.

slapass is good people - this we know for sure.

if you cannot make money with his traffic then you should pay for the traffic you already took and have a little class.

don't you have some webmasters to sue? I heard your revenue is down about 100% since you were forced to stop sending spam to every mother and child.

As for the domain, you SUED me for it when I was still small and Paycom wasn't making their payments and I had no money to fight back. Which you knew. You put me in an impossible position, not that you give a flying fuck about anyone but yourself. The domain was mine, and my partners were paid after I discussed it with them.

swami · 07-01-2005, 03:51 PM

Slapass is a great Bloke and his traffic is golden.
And I thank him for posting this on GFY which is after all a webmaster board.
If you can't convert his traffic, Fetishbucks ought to be responsible enough to admit it and terminate his account with a explanantion.To cancel his check because for no other reason that you are not converting his traffic is fraud on your part.
Amateur operations like this always go bust.

dig420 · 07-01-2005, 03:52 PM

and another thing Evan...

the reason why you have to post 500 times in your own threads to keep them alive is because nobody likes you. You're the pimple on the ass of this industry and if it weren't for D$ and KB you wouldn't even be able to pretend that you're a player.

pornguy · 07-01-2005, 03:53 PM

I really hope that this gets worked out the right way. Some mistake or something, but man people slin mud here so fast for nothing.

dig420 · 07-01-2005, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami

Slapass is a great Bloke and his traffic is golden.
And I thank him for posting this on GFY which is after all a webmaster board.
If you can't convert his traffic, Fetishbucks ought to be responsible enough to admit it and terminate his account with a explanantion.To cancel his check because for no other reason that you are not converting his traffic is fraud on your part.
Amateur operations like this always go bust.

I have nothing bad or good to say about Slapass, and I won't until I can access his account and see exactly what the deal is.

XPays · 07-01-2005, 03:56 PM

sorry bernie- have not been able to take you seriously since you used the board as your personals site with your handsome rich guy seeking chicks thread a while ago

XPays · 07-01-2005, 04:02 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=366893

chadglni · 07-01-2005, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

I have nothing bad or good to say about Slapass, and I won't until I can access his account and see exactly what the deal is.

If you don't want an affiliates traffic for ANY reason that is perfectly fine. However, once you cut a check for that traffic you don't cancel it. I doubt very seriously you are going to come back and say he scammed you, as you have heard from many his traffic and reputation are good. Cancelling a check because you didn't make money on the back end is in fact fraud and you would lose in court.

dig420 · 07-01-2005, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=366893

yeah that was pretty funny. I should find that picture for you, since you're so interested.

What's your obsession with me Evan? I don't care about you at all. You're mighty cute in your Sean Johns and gold teeth though.

slapass · 07-01-2005, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

I have nothing bad or good to say about Slapass, and I won't until I can access his account and see exactly what the deal is.

dig420 hit me on icq when you get chance. i will trade email adresses as icq is a little hard right now

icq 166708909

or check your email for title "check bounced"

dig420 · 07-01-2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

dig420 hit me on icq when you get chance. i will trade email adresses as icq is a little hard right now

icq 166708909

or check your email for title "check bounced"

adding you right now

swami · 07-01-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

adding you right now

Another example of the power og GFY
When a webmaster can't get a response from a sponsor, gfy never fails.
I'm thinking of starting a thread on being unable to access my TCG account.seems emails don't do squat there either.

V_RocKs · 07-01-2005, 06:05 PM

Well, sorry you are having a problem dig420. Not everyone is an asshole and you don't need to turn their monitors towards you, you need to fire them when you FEEL LIKE you need to turn their monitors towards you.

This brings up an issue that seems to effect the adult industry more than mainstream.

#1, DON'T HIRE YOUR FRIENDS
#2, Don't make friends out of employees
#3, Don't ever give someone respect when they don't deserve it
#4, If they are not your right hand man, you should feel comfortable about firing them 24/7 for no good reason

Some of you treat your slacker/wet-puss employees like they are part of an extended family. This is probably do to the fact that in the mainstream you would be an employee yourself, mainly because you don't like confrontation and you like to hang-out with your fellow co-workers. Everyone should feel that you are the man (or woman) and they should not feel like you are a fellow employee.

As for Slapass. When someone tries to post that he is a loud mouth douche, all of those who know and/or respect him will come to his defense.

I am happy your company is compensating affiliates during the down-time, however, I am ticked off that you cancelled an account based on conversions. You have a TOS and it says nothing about cancelling someone because their traffic didn't convert as well as you'd have liked. You cut him a check and he didn't use fraud to get it. You are breaking your agreement. The check and locked money in the account that hasn't been paid are not a great deal of money to Slapass so he is dropping the issue and will not be seeing you in court. Had it been someone like Brad Shaw and $30,000 I am sure you know what would happen.

My 2 cents...

Manowar, I added you and ICQ won't let me login now... ain't ICQ just the best!!!

swedguy · 07-03-2005, 05:53 AM

EDIT: has been covered already.

wjxxx · 07-03-2005, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

My thanks to Mikey, Animal Mother - just doing what he thought was right

He fucked your PR and you thank him

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-03-2005, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDF

I wonder what percentage of GFY would last in a real management position in mainstream with this attitude.This industry seems to be full of dicks and pussies

Your just understanding this now?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-03-2005, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjxxx

He fucked your PR and you thank him

Go troll somewhere else and be sure to blow Evans cock some more.

Rui · 07-03-2005, 09:14 AM

Talk about a shitty attitude...does he thinks he owns the Online Adult Internet business? :S

07-01-2005, 02:09 PM	#51
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	50.......... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

07-01-2005, 02:23 PM	#52
animal mother Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 274	let's review: slapass starts a thread with the oh-so-diplomatic title: "Fetishbucks, you gutless wonders". "attn: anyone from fetishbucks" wouldn't have accomplished the exact same thing? the thread title and the plug for wegcash and porndollar make it clear what his intentions for the thread were, and it wasn't to resolve the issue. V rocks, who to my knowledge has no connection whatsoever to the issue, states "they suck". he then adds, without anyone from fetishbucks having had a chance to respond yet, "Finally, I was wondering what sponsor I shouldn't start promoting. Thanks for letting me know...Not to change the subject but XXL-CASH sucks too...I have waited 5 pay periods for a measly $300 bucks and am still waiting. Tried setting it to epassporte, wire and check. Emails, ICQ...I think they must sleep in the same bed as Fetish Bucks..." when i responded i never called anyone a douche. i said there was "either some mistake or the thread starter is simply a raving douche", a strong possibility in my mind considering the thread title. in a different thread slapass had requested my icq#. as soon as i saw the request i posted it. 3 hours later, without ever bothering to see if i had responded, slapass is back whining about how he can't get a response out of anyone. that's when i called him a crybaby. now, i'm brand new here and obviously am not totally familiar with exactly how things work. i'm basing that on the responses my posts have generated. it's certainly not my intention to drive business away or do anything to hurt dig420's relationships with his affiliates. what i saw was someone who wasn't trying to resolve an issue but someone who was trying to defame the company and drive away potential future business partners and i was simply trying to defend the company. now serious question here: regardless of what an affiliate says or implies about your company, is it considered wrong to vehemently defend yourself simply because he/she is an affiliate? i'm really asking becasue that seems to be the case based on the reactions i've drawn here. if that is the case then i offer my apology to slapass right here and now. __________________ www.upstandingfuckingcitizens.com

07-01-2005, 02:36 PM	#56
animal mother Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 274	fair enough. i'm coming from my usual board where calling someone a cocksucker is like saying hello and flamewars are started about every 5 minutes and forgotten just as quickly. __________________ www.upstandingfuckingcitizens.com

07-01-2005, 02:53 PM	#58
dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	Just a friendly reminder: Dirty Duckets are fucking scammers as well! __________________ no sig

07-01-2005, 03:17 PM	#62
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	I wonder what percentage of GFY would last in a real management position in mainstream with this attitude.This industry seems to be full of dicks and pussies __________________ Sig heil

07-01-2005, 02:32 PM	#54
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	well ........... you are representing the company right ? and slapass was/is an affiliate right ? when representing any company you should and I will type this very very very slowly never ever call people names but try to resolve the matter as quickly as possible. simple !

07-01-2005, 03:10 PM	#60
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	ok finally back online. I have two issues to address here, number one being why we've been down and number two the affiliate issues. Our network was severely compromised by an employee with very bad judgement. I can't get into details and the problem is nothing that affects our webmasters, but the whole network had to be taken down. Of course we have a backup network that duplicates everything we have online at a remote location, but the backup network isn't capable of serving everything up, it's just set up for data storage. We have darkcavern online again at the secondary network but there are a few glitches that have to be fixed up by Mikey before I can call the site active again. It will be by this evening. What happened to us could have happened to any company, it's a shitty thing and a real smack in the face, but it's nothing that's going to cause long-term damage, thank god. When I can talk more about it I will. New servers are going in at our primary facility and everything will be back up and running normally as soon as possible. As for the affiliates: installing executive stats gave us a new insight into the profitability of some of our resellers, and we termed quite a few accounts, mostly for non-conversion. We handle exit traffic from a few of the largest reseller programs in the business. We handle SEO traffic. We handle mailer traffic, and all these traffic streams do very well with us on most of our reseller accounts. The accounts that got termed were, for example, accounts that were sending 50 joins every week with one or maybe two conversions, no verifiable referring url, etc and so on. Some of the accounts were for mailers that weren't converting who had not contacted us prior to sending the traffic so that we could see what we were getting. Listen: If someone sends you 50 joins at least 15 of them will convert just by forgetting to cancel. When NONE of them convert you can be absolutely goddam sure someone is fucking you, and we're not here to be fucked. Many of the termed accounts had been sending me absolute shit traffic for months and getting paid for it, traffic that would have gotten them immediately termed most places and they should just be damn glad they got so much money from us for so long and recognize that the gravy train is now officially off the rails. I don't know exactly what the deal with slapass is as I can't access the stats at the moment, but I'll be looking into this as soon as I'm able and I'll be back to the board with either an apology or a slapdown. The people that know me in this business know that I don't fuck anybody. EVER. And I'm not about to start now. All accounts that have been sending us productive traffic are going to be fully compensated for the downtime, we're going to average out their sales and pay them accordingly for every day the sites aren't up. This whole mess isn't going to cost them a dime and I'm going to make sure of that. This whole episode has been a wake up call to me, and my last word on this for the time being is a message to program owners. Hire a tech to check on your other techs. Be a hardass, install monitoring software, make them sit where you can see their monitors, do whatever you have to protect your ass. One bad apple can cause so many problems you won't even believe it until you're in this situation. My thanks to Mikey, Animal Mother - just doing what he thought was right - and all my other employees and resellers without whom I would be nothing. This whole situation has been a learning experience, and I'm taking the lessons to heart.

07-01-2005, 03:27 PM	#64
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	bernard (dig410) apparently appeared to allegedly rip his own partners off when we bought sexpays.com from him under the table and paid him direct and then once the domain propagated to us- his own business partners and webmasters started calling and writing as he gave them no notice. it appears he split with the cash fyi. be careful - not sure if he has changed at all since we have never done any business with bernard since then. slapass is good people - this we know for sure. if you cannot make money with his traffic then you should pay for the traffic you already took and have a little class. __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

07-01-2005, 03:51 PM	#67
swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	Slapass is a great Bloke and his traffic is golden. And I thank him for posting this on GFY which is after all a webmaster board. If you can't convert his traffic, Fetishbucks ought to be responsible enough to admit it and terminate his account with a explanantion.To cancel his check because for no other reason that you are not converting his traffic is fraud on your part. Amateur operations like this always go bust.

07-01-2005, 03:52 PM	#68
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	and another thing Evan... the reason why you have to post 500 times in your own threads to keep them alive is because nobody likes you. You're the pimple on the ass of this industry and if it weren't for D$ and KB you wouldn't even be able to pretend that you're a player.

07-01-2005, 03:53 PM	#69
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I really hope that this gets worked out the right way. Some mistake or something, but man people slin mud here so fast for nothing. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-01-2005, 03:56 PM	#71
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	sorry bernie- have not been able to take you seriously since you used the board as your personals site with your handsome rich guy seeking chicks thread a while ago __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

07-01-2005, 04:02 PM	#72
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07-01-2005, 06:05 PM	#78
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Well, sorry you are having a problem dig420. Not everyone is an asshole and you don't need to turn their monitors towards you, you need to fire them when you FEEL LIKE you need to turn their monitors towards you. This brings up an issue that seems to effect the adult industry more than mainstream. #1, DON'T HIRE YOUR FRIENDS #2, Don't make friends out of employees #3, Don't ever give someone respect when they don't deserve it #4, If they are not your right hand man, you should feel comfortable about firing them 24/7 for no good reason Some of you treat your slacker/wet-puss employees like they are part of an extended family. This is probably do to the fact that in the mainstream you would be an employee yourself, mainly because you don't like confrontation and you like to hang-out with your fellow co-workers. Everyone should feel that you are the man (or woman) and they should not feel like you are a fellow employee. As for Slapass. When someone tries to post that he is a loud mouth douche, all of those who know and/or respect him will come to his defense. I am happy your company is compensating affiliates during the down-time, however, I am ticked off that you cancelled an account based on conversions. You have a TOS and it says nothing about cancelling someone because their traffic didn't convert as well as you'd have liked. You cut him a check and he didn't use fraud to get it. You are breaking your agreement. The check and locked money in the account that hasn't been paid are not a great deal of money to Slapass so he is dropping the issue and will not be seeing you in court. Had it been someone like Brad Shaw and $30,000 I am sure you know what would happen. My 2 cents... Manowar, I added you and ICQ won't let me login now... ain't ICQ just the best!!!

07-03-2005, 05:53 AM	#79
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	EDIT: has been covered already. Last edited by swedguy; 07-03-2005 at 05:54 AM..

07-03-2005, 09:14 AM	#83
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Talk about a shitty attitude...does he thinks he owns the Online Adult Internet business? :S