MrChips

All - please visit

LSIWebBuild.com RevShare.

This is probably the biggest free opportunity to have thousands of optimised pages genned for you on a revshare - I.E. - YOU PAY OUT NOTHING basis EVER to hit the internet.

Read carefully, the software is NOT for sale - it is REVSHARE only.

Nothing to lose - and as many websites and webpages to GAIN as you can handle.

Let me know.

Mark (mrchips) - the chips are down.

pradaboy

Everyone knows you're a fake nick

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Trax

you gotto be kidding

MrChips

No - if I set it at 50,000 pages for a client - then obviously thats a lot of genning.

So 50/50 I thought was a fair deal as there is nothing to pay out on your parts - in particular as it runs on old domains simply filling up space and using resources that we all pay for and often have a lot spare.

Plus I cant shave.

Plus I set up the webs for people.

I still am not totally certain what a "Fake Nick" is.

Hardlinks

yes.dyn.ctrlaltdel.ch

That you?

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yes.dyn.ctrlaltdel.ch

Whats that?

When you say "you are kidding" - is it that 50/50 is too much of a split in our favour in your view?

Mpegmaster

Hey Mr.Chips you were supposed to contact me on ICQ : 134901041

Trax

are you really that nuts?
which braindead do you think is going to share 50% of their money with you, just for using your script
that's gotto be an idiot

MrChips

Hi Mpegmaster.

Essentially - I am only now able to contact people - as only now has the decision been made to go revshare for an initial set up - rather than selling the program as a package.

This option is - Im thinking - more open than selling the software - in that it proves we have a product which works, as if it didnt, then of course I would not be able to offer revshare as an option - and neither for that matter am I the kind of person who would sell it.

Mpeg - please have a look at the links on www.lsiwebbuild.com - there are two new pages on the current way forward - one shows a basic outline of details I need to get the ball rolling in build terms.

Mail me a few specifics and I can get going no problem now.

Cheers
mark

MrChips

Traxx.

Its a bit more than a "script".

And I for one wouldnt mind if someone came up to me and said

"Hi I'll do you 50,000 web pages for nothing up front. Half the rev for you half for me. You do nothing."

Thats 50,000 LSI'd web-pages auto-interlinked across multiple domains that people didnt have.

In other words, send me the details - and we do the rest.

Soz Bud - but it doesnt get any better than that. How many people have the time or inclination to code a 16000 line web crawler and web generator?

I admit - I stumbled on the sale problem as its just to much to support and train people on to be viable under 1000$ - so a revshare option is there for those who would like a dabble at no risk and no outlay.

No risk - no outlay.

Trax - I cant offer better than that surely????

Trax

blah blah
a smart person will get something similair coded for way less
either sell the script or keep it yourself and shut up

I don't see a use by selling your SE scripts anyways... I got awesome scripts that I would never sell simply because they make myself too much money to consider sharing that for a little one time fee
if you'd have a clue what you're doing you'd earn money off your script yourself

MrChips

Trax - yeah - I do earn money from it myself - thats how it all began - and i'll continue developing it for certain as changes come about.

Opinions on ways forward always vary - im open minded though (well I try to be).

Im not a charity - but I do like to help people out. And a revshare with a further split available is a fair cop. (Especially when I consider the shaving that goes on by other people).

Ok - no worries - as I say - people keep software - do deals with software - sell software as a package.

Lots of options.

Ive just gone for the "no win no fee" - try it and see proposal.

Dirty F

So after your last thread you found out nobody wanted to buy a copy. Now youre trying it this way only to find out nobody will go 50/50. Except maybe xlogger, sickbeatz and funky bastard. 3 noobs who dont have money to buy anything and will take stuff for free. Yet they wont make you a penny, i can guarantee you that.

Hardlinks

Show us one.

Allthough trax is 100% correct.

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Franck.

No - I had around 8 or 9 offers to buy at 800$ after 2 days or so - this was - I realised too much for me to handle setup/support/training wise - (all within a couple of days!!). I had envisaged a far more relaxed take on and thats the truth.

There were also MANY PEOPLE who showed great interest through ICQ etc - but I simply could not keep up with the technical questions based on having people install and execute it on their own machines.

One person I even returned his money through paypal - as I want to provide a quality service - and simply couldnt keep pace with his requirements without a steady schedule.

The problem was that I overshot the mark and went too fast - that is all. I got panicky and HAD to pull out of selling it. Im not lying - Im sure most developers will realise the undertaking of a program that takes 2 weeks to train in (around that time) - needs very careful setup and crosslinking considerations, and needs templates which could come from basically any software package that can create them in the **correct format**.

It is easier for me to do all the setup and build runs for people - and its far more productive - than to train people.

Franck - if people who want to go with this wont make me a penny - then that will be my fault - not theirs - and my loss - not theirs.

The only info I require from people is listed at the site on the page about "requirements". It would probably only take most people here about 30 mins per domain to get that together - and many only 15 mins.

I'd seriously say that for just 15-30 mins work on anyones part - its worth looking into. (That would also sort out anyone who just wants to see the output).

Thats another way to see it - 15-30 mins work - gets a site owner 1500 pages (as an example).

I already have ranking pages - and that is why I know it works - otherwise I couldnt offer a revenue share option - there would be no point if I couldnt rank.

GFY is the first place I am talking about this on, but it is certainly open to more forums than this.

Next week sometime I'll be putting advertising banners across many of my own sites aswell - so theres plenty of scope for growth.

Even people who dont have sites can get 10% advertising for nothing.

I cant come any lower than this guys - seriously.

Granted - I lost contacts through being overwhelmed last post - but Im taking it from another angle this time so I can keep ahead of the workload.

riddler

7. 16,000 lines of VB6, 3 months in coding and over 6 Years SEO experience.
So 6 years of SEO and you dont know that making mass pages for search engines (search engine bombing) will get you banned and possibly your whole C class of ips?

Its pathetic what people make and try to sell for a quick buck, My god i could make this in a half day in VB not hard but fuck this crap.

iwantchixx

I have come to learn that when dealing with SEO, people selling services are unable to make the money for themselves so they make the money off of others. Ok.. so now the question is why are you doing this and not just doing it for yourself if it's that easy?

MrChips

Riddler :-

Fine - if you can do that in .5 of a day - you should be a multi-millionaire already through programming skills like that alone.

"try to sell for a quick buck" - Im not selling anything. I dont know where you spurted that out from.

I want Chixxx.

Ok - First up - and yet again - Im not selling anything - so thats the end of that.

I am making money for myself with it - and others already - yes.

I am expanding myself - and also in doing so providing a mass LSI page generation service on a "pay per results basis" only.

Its fine questioning it - I suppose some people even question why should a car manufacturer sell cars.

God I aint even asking for money and people are so nasty about it.

I agree though - there are some SEOs whos programs dont work - so they sell them. This one is working NOW, and I dont make a bean if whoever else wants to utilise it doesnt make a bean.

Again - I wouldnt bother if it didnt work.

One thing amazes me sometimes about some people - they get something on a plate - totally free (fine I get something back from the deal too) - and they get all riled and start slating it.

a) B4 they try it.
b) Even though there is no cost
c) even though there is no risk

Maybe its cos they had a bad childhood - I dont know - but youre welcome to try it out anyway.

I think that opinions are formed very very quickly and very very innacurately here sometimes.

iwantchixx

yes you are selling soemthing. When you make money off a product you are selling.

The fact remains, if this works so wonderfully why don't you do it all yourself and keep all the money for yourself?

MrChips

"The fact remains, if this works so wonderfully why don't you do it all yourself and keep all the money for yourself?"

Thats just like saying.

If nastydollars sites are so wonderful - why do they do an affiliate program - why not keep all the money for themselves?

Hi there nasty dollars - why should I promote you if youre so good???

It doesnt make any sense.

The fact is that Ive got a service - and a good one, and Im certain people here have a lot of spare webspace - I can fill it up for them on a 50/50 - or I can take on more space and domains and do that myself - and then I own the space and the domains and the program.

Its probably swings and roundabouts as to how much I make anyway - whether I do it all myself or with other people - which would work out best if I have all the overheads of hosting in time and cost in addition to the processing of the builds themselves.

I do use the program myself though - and I am continually adding to my own domain base aswell.

There are benefits for all who do this - of course including benefits for me.

Ford wouldnt make friggin cars if they didnt want the benefits of the profit.

Im finding your question a bit harder to answer beyond that.

As I say - its possible I could do it all myself, or I could do it with others - which makes the most money?

Absolutely no idea - its too large to imagine.

MrChips

Riddler.

"So 6 years of SEO and you dont know that making mass pages for search engines (search engine bombing) will get you banned and possibly your whole C class of ips?"

The system is written to place as many or few pages on any given domain as you require.

I have large mass spam sites doing ok.

I have large mass spam sites doing not so well.

I have small sites (some with only 5 pages) doing ok

I have small sites doing not so well.

When I do a build - it is up to the individual in control of the domains how they wish to "play" a group of sites.

Sometimes cautious - sometimes a gamble - sometimes in-between

All combinations are catered for - all are open depending on what a given person wants to try out.

Spam a load on the same class c - dont spam a load on the same class c.

It can "bomb" or it can "drip feed" the pages.

It can take 5 years to build the web - or 5 days.

Its all configurable already.

(Well in terms of all the combinations I can think of anyway).

Basically it can absolutely and utterly spam an engine - or tease its way in.

Some people like the former - some the latter - some inbetween.

I do all.

Rui

This is so wrong in so many ways I don't even know where to start...

MrChips

Im getting confused - whats wrong - how could I do a better deal than a revshare with it?

Theres no other Latent semantic genner out there I know of - and certainly not one which interlinks domains topically.

I cant support it selling it as a package as the training and setup is just too long winded at about 2weeks per person.

I can set up builds though a hell of a lot faster than training people on it.

It simply is not capable of costing anyone anything - as theres no payment to me. So any webspace knocking around that could be utilised can be.

Honestly - if someone came to me and said - let me do 5000 pages for you for 50/50. I'd go with that.

or maybe they would say - "Hi MrChips - let me do 100 pages for you for 50/50.

Id go with that too.

But as Im the one with the program - Ive got to do the pages.

???

Im so confused by the sceptisism here - It just doesnt seem to make sense.

Rui

ok, he is what I think its "wrong" with all this (and I missing some points)

- You have no references whatsoever
- You came out of nowhere..
- You say you have 6 years of practise with SE's yet you say you don't know how to market this product (like you mentioned in your introdution)
- You don't seem to have a clue about what do you offer (what sort of service) and niether the pricing.
- By selling such a effective and unique program (like you say it is) you are destroying your income by creating more competition, and if you tell me thats worth the $800 or so you want for it now...
- You didn't proved the program actualy works.
- You have nobody to vouch for you
etc..

iwantchixx

Your analogy makes no sense. ND needs affiliates for the volume of traffic.

Since your script generates pages what's stopping you from being the only one inputting banners and letting it run it's course.

Dude, if this script of your works, why not just do it all yourself and make all the money for yourself? Seriously.

I don't understand why people give away money when they have a product that works that doesn;t need partners to succeed.

is it because you know that eventually the SE's will catch on and block your sites and you know that you have a better chance of longer term income if it's spread out across multiple networks? THAT would make more sense to me.

Hardlinks

Agreed, show us one, maybe youll get some takers.


You also must remember....IF this program works, the people who criticize here are your competitors. I myself dont buy it...but i will play the devils advocate here.

To that i would respond....(as the devils advocate) Certainly trax, its NOT worth selling for a one time fee. But what if you had full control of the script and had a few hundred OUT OF YOUR NETWORK sites running your pages on them...50/50, suddenly the numbers become larger. Sure it isnt worth selling for a few k, but what about if you had a group of webmasters you trusted willing to give you half the cut from the pages on their site just for running the script on them...while they build the links, work on traffic etc.

So swami and xxx-jay must be clueless?...Realise they are two of the best se guys in the world, and THEY WILL TEACH FOR CASH. They are just a few of the highly talented people our industry holds who will consult for a fee. "those who can, do, those who cant teach" that is far from true, and is just a sceptic scapegoat.

Once again im not saying i buy that this will work, but i also think its funny the way people criticize things they have little or no understanding of...(btw not saying either of the two i quoted DONT know their shit)

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Sure, sign me up. I'll write a perl script to make sure 100% of the pages will have my affiliate code
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Rui

ok, he is what I think its "wrong" with all this (and I missing some points)

"- You have no references whatsoever"
This is only down to it being a new product - and I havent worked with other affiliates yet - only sponsors - Granted - I havent been around the GFY forum so long though.


"- You came out of nowhere.."
Well - I joined - like everyone has to at some point.

"- You say you have 6 years of practise with SE's yet you say you don't know how to market this product (like you mentioned in your introdution)"
Correct - I had problems getting the product to market because I didnt have the support/remote installation/legal requirments for licensing in place - a revshare does not require the support etc.


"- You don't seem to have a clue about what do you offer (what sort of service) and niether the pricing."
There is no pricing as its a revshare - I cannot repeat that too much. It was 800$ but I couldnt take on board the people who wanted it so quickly - so I have gone for a revshare whereby I set up all the webbuild parameters and execute the builds.
I know what I offer - in summary - LSI based websites, scheduled builds, your products, your keywords, your banners.... as many/few pages as you require on a revenue sharing basis.


"- By selling such a effective and unique program (like you say it is) you are destroying your income by creating more competition, and if you tell me thats worth the $800 or so you want for it now..."
I am not selling the program. I am merely saying that I run what it produces - on request and we split the diff.


"- You didn't proved the program actualy works."
I seriously think that merely by offering a revshare rather than an up front fee that you can safely say it works.
Or - if it doesnt work - "Hi Ho all - can I build loads of sites for you with this - its crap and wont work and doesnt make money - but hey - Ill do it anyway."
It works, and I will show people ranking pages once I can trust them. No Problem.


"- You have nobody to vouch for you"
Well - Ive not asked anyone to vouch for me - either in my mainstream fields or adult fields. As you know already I am "relatively" new here and havent yet started any projects.

I suppose I could have a chat with a couple of people at some very well mentioned affiliate program sites here - but to ask for a reference?????

I dont need to though - why should I mither people asking to vouch for me on GFY when Im offering a deal on genning and traffic which is risk free and cost free???

Im not MASSIVE in the industry - but Im not that small dude....

Hope that answers some questions for you - fair questions for sure.

MrChips

Yes - I am open to people scamming me like that.

I hope they dont - theres no need.

Rui

I dont know how it works for you but I tend to check the background of the people I do business with and if you dont think a reputation or trusthworthy people are something you need then I can see where you are coming from when you said "You didnt knew how to market it"

Lets say for example you would sell the program at $5000 and well WiredGuy would sell his program for $15000, which one even with the price diference do you think would do more business?

FilthyRob

Sounds fishy

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MrChips hit me up on icq:

52-103-872

thanks

MrChips

"Agreed, show us one, maybe youll get some takers."
On here? Youre kidding.

"You also must remember....IF this program works, the people who criticize here are your competitors. I myself dont buy it...but i will play the devils advocate here."


I know that SOME people who criticize are competitors - I see them on Google, Yahoo and MSN every day - along side me. (Sometimes above - sometimes below )


"To that i would respond....(as the devils advocate) Certainly trax, its NOT worth selling for a one time fee. But what if you had full control of the script and had a few hundred OUT OF YOUR NETWORK sites running your pages on them...50/50, suddenly the numbers become larger. Sure it isnt worth selling for a few k, but what about if you had a group of webmasters you trusted willing to give you half the cut from the pages on their site just for running the script on them...while they build the links, work on traffic etc."



I cannot answer like that Wired - as the programming builds the links over time anyways. I would say though that if a guy had 100GB spare disk space, 200 domains and a few affiliate progs to promote then the program can eat that like nothing that is currently available. It is FAR MORE than running a script.

"So swami and xxx-jay must be clueless?...Realise they are two of the best se guys in the world, and THEY WILL TEACH FOR CASH. They are just a few of the highly talented people our industry holds who will consult for a fee. "those who can, do, those who cant teach" that is far from true, and is just a sceptic scapegoat."


Yes Swami and xxxjays arent bad at all xxxj has suffered a bit in google recently looking at his rankings but between them they arent doing that bad a job I see. I did approach XXXjay to discuss LSI as a technical concept a while back. (when he posted his I made $$$ this is how I did it" thing. No worries.

I normally use NastyDollars affiliates as a benchmark for SEO skills in adult. Theres a few others too who for obvious privacy reasons I will not mention - who are pretty good on the whole.

I both TEACH AND DO. Im not that worried either way. I think Im more laid back about this (now its a revshare issue) than a lot of people are.



"Once again im not saying i buy that this will work, but i also think its funny the way people criticize things they have little or no understanding of...(btw not saying either of the two i quoted DONT know their shit)[/QUOTE]

Well - thats the beauty of the program revshare option as opposed to me selling it - if it works - everyone is happy - if it doesnt - I - AND ONLY I - wasted my time???? Surely??

Yes - I find it quite intruiging how people jump to conclusions............ very intruiging in fact.

MrChips

Drews - pls can you fire me an email to [email protected].

ICQ swamps me sometimes and once theres more than 15 chats open at the same time I get myself in a mess and try to rush things too fast.

For sure ICQ is great once we get a build going and to get instant answers etc. Later.

Last time I brought this application up I was asking for help to market - and it just got too much selling it as a one off to handle via ICQ - particularily at first.

I am certain things will go smoother with a revshare but I do appreciate mails instead of ICQ. Its easier to get organised that way.

Thanks
Chips.

MrChips

LOL filthyrob - its not fishy - its actually fun to watch a site "grow" on its own and get spidered and then get ranked and then switch to affiliate stats.

Its just fun filthyrob - I assure you it isnt fishy.

Trax

hehe exactly...
I will mail him now and set something up
lets see how good this script is

MrChips

"is it because you know that eventually the SE's will catch on and block your sites and you know that you have a better chance of longer term income if it's spread out across multiple networks? THAT would make more sense to me."


No Iwantchix - things arent NEARLY that bad on the SE's - however that is actually a common misconception.

MrChips

Trax - it is indeed absolutely true to say that you can rip me off like that.

If thats your game then thats ok by me........ I'll do the sites for you - you rip them - and then..... well who knows.

I am far more open to being ripped off than people who have a dabble with this.

But then again - people who rip me off wont gain trust.......and then they dont get another 5000 pages, and another 5000 pages, and another 10,000 pages and another 15,000 pages and so it goes on.

MrChips

I think Ive managed sofar to answer everything?

I'm not deeply against trying to answer things you know - Ive done some posting here today - and Ive been open and honest.

Even if you dont have a dabble at the builds - I hope thats appreciated.

(Some posts may have the "quotes" a bit untidy - but I think its easy enough to work through if youre after the answers.).

Carry on firing away. I have no issues at all with discussions like this - its been a great day all up.

Rui

You don't get it...

They are saying they could take your offer and setup a way to see if you are FUCKING THEM by checking all their links...

BTW you mention Trust at the end of the post yet a few posts above you said you didn't knew to prove yourself to your potential clients...

MrChips

Rui.

Ive got absolutely no time to go poking round the net at 600 billion links.
I did that 3 years ago when there were 300 billion links. If I want to - I can set my crawlers off collecting affiliate codes to see whats what etc etc etc.

This really shouldnt be an issue for people on here. Or maybe Im off target.

I can easily ask a "potential client" as you word it - ok - to give me a blank domain - no inbounds no outbounds nothing. Along with a few keywords that dont even relate to their current sites if they like. Set up a build and they can see whats what.

I mention trust here - as I really prefer not to post my stats on a public message board - along with my contacts.

When you post your stats you get battered - when you dont you get battered.

Whats the point in it.

Is it right I should ask people from companies who Ive made wads and splashies of cash for - to come on here and say hi?

I think not.
I really do think not.

Rui

Well let me just tell you this, all you need is somebody to try this out (paying you or not) and vouch for its results....

MrChips

What Ive tried to say on a few posts here - is that "PEOPLE" are normally actually quite friendly and have a laugh and get on.

Here are a few snips from mails Ive had today from other places. You know GFY isnt the only place on the internet.

And if you actually spoke with me Im not an evil character or something strange!!!!!!

I just did these quickly - I suppose they are pretty much up to date.

Hell - after all the stick Ive had on here today - especially after actually feeling sorry for you guys over 2257 - I really am totally confused.

Is GFY perhaps the nastiest board after all???? Dunno - but it sure has been a strange one this.


"Hi Mark,

Thanks for all your comments. I have created a zip file with all the
details and banners, etc"

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"Looking forward to working with you."

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"As far as space goes, don't worry about it."

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"Thanks for getting back to me - just to clarify;

Do you build Adsense/Espotting sites or just ones using affiliate programs?"

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"Is there any issue with geo-location"

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"Please forward any more information you have on this and hopefully we can set up a deal."

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"Thanks Mark. I'll gather materials together later today to get to you. "


Of course - Ive been speaking to these guys and were all getting on.

And yet on this board......

Laugh at mr chips take the piss fuck him off???

I honest to god just dont get it.

Fascinating.

MrChips

Thats it you see - thats how we work.

We have a chat - get some stuff together and fire it up.

None of this "hes a fake nick" - or that little orange thing like a laughing head.

Just work.

A few beers - work - and a laugh etc.

No Big Deal - I guess.

iwantchixx

I never said Jay or swami were clueless. Don't put words in my mouth.

MrChips

bump - one last time then Im gone from GFY (regarding this application).