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|  06-30-2005, 10:57 PM | #401 | 
| <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago 
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				 | 400......... 
				__________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager  Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager | 
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|  06-30-2005, 10:58 PM | #402 | 
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				 | drama inside of drama... man this is too nuts | 
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|  06-30-2005, 10:59 PM | #403 | 
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				 | DAMNIT I could have had 400 
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|  06-30-2005, 10:59 PM | #404 | |
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 but one person's truth isn't necessairly anothers the true path is yours alone and doesn't involve you forcing another along it. 
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|  06-30-2005, 10:59 PM | #405 | |
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       Sorry if I threw you off man  
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|  06-30-2005, 11:00 PM | #406 | |
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				 | [QUOTE=kBizzle] Quote: 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:00 PM | #407 | 
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				 | kb, can i buy your sig on a per thread basis? | 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:02 PM | #408 | |
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|  06-30-2005, 11:04 PM | #409 | |
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 welll duuuu who do you trust with your secrets? kimmy is almost like a competator to you (you're both contractors/consultants within adult)- does it make sense for you to confide in her some of your secrets? think about that for a sec. how many other competarors in business do you trust with secrets? got any good ones I can use? 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:05 PM | #410 | 
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				 | I appreciate you clarifying what took place at a meeting I was present for and again you were not. I'd be interested to see if Jeff feels that we had a meeting to get a "house whore" under contract... I know at least 3 of us know exactly what the nature of the meeting was and you aren't one of them. I think you can guess who the other party that was a little confused on the subject might be   Well, carry on with your drama here and good luck with your marketing efforts. | 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:06 PM | #411 | |
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				22 days!
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 without regard to anything else, 22 days sober is a mfer. that is to be congratulated my friend. 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:06 PM | #412 | 
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				 | Whats a good page to start on here?  Ill be damned if I read all 9.  SYnopsis please. 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:07 PM | #413 | |
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|  06-30-2005, 11:10 PM | #414 | |
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|  06-30-2005, 11:15 PM | #415 | |
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   Doing well, busy with all of this regulatory nightmare as I'm sure you have been as well. Hope things are going well with you these days, odd place for catching up don't you think...lol I'm off for the evening sir, get my ICQ from Gabe if you want to chat. I'm not about to post it here  | |
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|  06-30-2005, 11:24 PM | #416 | 
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				 |   ........Sorry, its been a while since Ive posted this one...it just seemed right. 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:26 PM | #417 | 
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				 | Anyone tired of the drama is invited to visit my nice peaceful oasis known as AsianDivaGirls.com - lots of beautiful Asian babes to help you relieve the stress of your busy day...they make you happy, long time.  You like, come see... ADG Webmaster | 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:29 PM | #418 | |
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|  06-30-2005, 11:41 PM | #419 | |
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 congrats maing, that takes some heuvos to admit on a public board I was a friend of Bill W's for almost a decade and began doing a few meetings in the SFV with a friend & family member before finally getting my straight-on for a while myself  if you think you got a lot of shit done before, stick around and watch your energy and potential skyrocket when you harness that energy you were supressing with the substances  
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|  06-30-2005, 11:46 PM | #420 | |
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 But although it maybe illegal to tape a phone call from someone in California without their knowledge I did disclose to you at the time of our discussion that the call was being taped- You said you had no problem with it- and I told you this was because of the hack I experienced- I have your voice on TAPE jeff stating just that- Like I said, I am not going back to revisit things about trhe past again- I am here to protect my business and my reputation as a straight shooter- If I were able to make a clip from this tape recorder and play this for you right now ( I am an idiot and can never figur out thse types of application) You would be a bit embarrassed- There is also something else said that I won't care to comment on- Like I said in our earlier private emails I am through talking about this- and now feel that I have some closure here in regards to that matter. 
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|  06-30-2005, 11:49 PM | #421 | |
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 Already my clarity is startig to make me more money- I am a long ways away from being "sober" I know people and have met people 20 yrs sober and have eaten their birthday cakes- I don't really care for AA although I have to respect that it helps saves peoples lives- It just depresses me too much to be quite honest with you- I also find it cultish- If there is such a thing as a "good cult" I think AA would be it. 
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|  07-01-2005, 12:07 AM | #422 | |
| They're all hookers, but mom! Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Right now Shelby Twp MI 
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|  07-01-2005, 12:33 AM | #423 | |
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 One the cultish part, and two the depressing part. However, when you're a n00b getting sober sometimes it's ok to be reminded often why you're not doing that shit, the -ism crowd as you know, has AMAZING powers of rationalizing their way out of iron boxes. Not all meetings are the same, I can ask a friend of some decent ones in the SVF as I know you cruise that neck of the woods fairly often. There is a saying "Stick with the winners" in those crowds, find them and listen, listen, listen. You're smart, and you're still young, your best years are ahead of you. Your energy and clarity may skyrocket around the 90-120 day zone (it did for me and a few others I know). I have to tell you it's well worth the ride. I finally quit going to meetings regularly many years later as I prefer to identify with positive thoughts and messages. However those early years were necessary for me to 'get real' with where my life was going. If you ever need to talk, bullshit, or whatevah -- beep me on ICQ at 325741441 & I'll pass my other # over PS: We've met before and are not total strangers. I'm just been lurking on the board for a while. 
				__________________  L'Chaim: interj. Pronunciation Key (la khi yem) - Literally "To Life." Used as a toast. | |
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|  07-01-2005, 12:37 AM | #424 | |
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|  07-01-2005, 12:54 AM | #425 | |
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 Shit, did we kill the drama thread with a sideline discussion?  
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|  07-01-2005, 01:06 AM | #426 | |
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 I made my point nothing more I can say 
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|  07-01-2005, 01:20 AM | #427 | |
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|  07-01-2005, 01:39 AM | #428 | |
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|  07-01-2005, 01:55 AM | #429 | |
| RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Area 
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|  07-01-2005, 01:56 AM | #430 | |
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				Ho Hum!
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 In my First Amendment Protected personal opinion: 1. Yawn! 2. Perhaps someone needs to grow up, and stop childishly being delusional about his own self-importance, and burdening us with his constant drama? 3. Dennis Hof is a friend. My email was intended to alert him that his "seller-of-banners-for www.bunnyranch.com" might possibly make it difficult for future interaction/advertising/etc with AVN, as previously, if it possibly appeared/connoted that being a kb client meant any hint of agreement with what appeared to be kb's subjective/personal/family-related recent posting about a former AVN employee. The email was sent because of my friendship and loyalty to Mr Hof. AVN had nothing whatsoever to do with me alerting Dennis. 4. Holli Miles once asked my help finding bookings so that she could earn money for late car payments (or car accident repairs, I can't recall which) and other expenses. She preferred not to have to drive to LA for porn shoots. I gave her the contact info for a respected local married guy who had told me that he was thinking about starting some video productions and might need adult models, and I referred her for some work on Playboy Television. It wasn't "pimping" per se as I know it -- I was merely trying to be helpful to her (doesn't pimping normally mean the pimp earns money off of the girl? I did NOT earn any money!). She eventually was booked on Playboy's "Night Calls":-)! I also heard some comments indicating something about Holli needing more money and attempting to extort a sizeable amount of cash off of the married guy, lest another person involved in the conspiracy would "rat" to his wife about the sessions with Holli---I can't recall the specifics, but I believe Holli and whoever was leaning on her in the extortion conspiracy eventually dropped the money demands. 5. Girls in the Adult Industry often relocate. Every January when I send out the 1099's for talent earning $600 or more during the previous taxable year, some are returned with a USPS stamp indicating the person is no longer at that location and no forwarding address was available. I keep those still-sealed envelopes containing the individual's 1099 with my Tax records to indicate that I sent the 1099 in good faith to the address on the Model Release form. I think I left an answering machine message asking Holli to give me her new address, or tell me to send her 1099 to her past address and let the USPS forward it to her--it was her call, but I recall counseling that she still had the tax liability if she had me use the last model release address and it came back to me as undeliverable. I did indeed send out Holli's 1099 to the address on her last model release--I can't recall, but I think it came back undeliverable. 6. If this board is indeed monitored by DOJ or others, the initiator of this thread could possibly be gravely, recklessly, and negatively damaging the fight against 2257 and in turn against MANY of the members of this board, not just me, by his rantings??????? Might not this thread be selfishly promotional, while hurting the American Adult Internet Industry? Perhaps it's time for all postings to this and related threads to cease???? 7. Other than paragraph 8 below, I will NOT post additional comments to this thread. 8. Yawn! Dave | |
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|  07-01-2005, 02:13 AM | #431 | 
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				 | Great post Dave- Funny part is Dennis told me he has met you 6 times in his life and on ONE occasion you visited the ranch. He also told me he had no idea why you sent him this email. You made it out to me as though Dennis was one of your best friends- I think you are more of a name dropper. What you don't know about MY relationship with Dennis is that I have done only good things for him, made him money, and had his back with some legal affairs. I am not just someone who goes to the ranch to use up Dennis' generous free comps. I speak to Dennis regularly and he trusts me. What does AVN have to do with Dennis' or my business anyway? What did u get out of it by being a NOSEY,SNOOPING HATER? DO YOU WORK FOR AVN? You think I am doing this industry harm by telling the truth about you and how you act? Maybe the industry needs to know that you have have two faces- One that may be helping support our case against .XXX The other is a great way of getting the publicity you crave so much? Grandstanding for your own benefit by signing your name next to Alberto Gonzalez' on a TRO to sell videos is far more destructive than me exposing the truth. 
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|  07-01-2005, 02:13 AM | #432 | 
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				 | Is KB still up? edit - guess so  
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|  07-01-2005, 02:14 AM | #433 | |
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 been up for almost 33 hours Ned to go to sleep soon... 
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|  07-01-2005, 02:19 AM | #434 | |
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				__________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS?  Click HERE!!!! |  Want to buy SUCCUBUS?  Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! | Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn (3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before | |
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|  07-01-2005, 02:27 AM | #435 | 
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				 | 3." Dennis Hof is a friend. My email was intended to alert him that his "seller-of-banners-for www.bunnyranch.com" might possibly make it difficult for future interaction/advertising/etc with AVN, as previously, if it possibly appeared/connoted that being a kb client meant any hint of agreement with what appeared to be kb's subjective/personal/family-related recent posting about a former AVN employee. The email was sent because of my friendship and loyalty to Mr Hof. AVN had nothing whatsoever to do with me alerting Dennis." So KB cn't have his own opinion without it affecting Dennis' business with AVN Last time I checked I have never received one penny from AVN nor have I even received a unique click to any website I have ever promotedc through them. The last time I checked-Dennis owns a brothel- He doesn't sell a lot of videos, nor does he own a replicating service or make peepshow booths He owns a BROTHEL- so tell me again how this would affect Dennis' business I bet if AVN boycotted him tomorrow, no one would ever go to the Ranch to get laid ever again! Oh could you imagine the impact of such an atrocity? bahahahahahahahaha! You want to be a vigilante? Go work at the train station. Stay out of my business. This is the last time I will tell you this- in case you didn't bother to read all 9 pages. 
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|  07-01-2005, 02:29 AM | #436 | |
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 I guarantee you if it wer the other way around- I would have been sleeping like a baby hours ago- GO FUCK YOUR GIRL AND GO TO BED I am off to try and catch some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Good night man! 
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|  07-01-2005, 02:42 AM | #437 | |
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|  07-01-2005, 02:52 AM | #438 | |
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 Shit attracts flies. 
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|  07-01-2005, 02:54 AM | #439 | |
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 I wouldn't trust you to spell out my next press release bahahahaha I love ya Scott! 
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|  07-01-2005, 02:57 AM | #440 | |
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|  07-01-2005, 03:09 AM | #441 | |
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 He was to wire my money on a Wed It never came- This was two days after we initially spoke- He hid and avoided me after I went to the boards and defended him. I also wrote a press release and attached my NAME to it- and that is worth money. I risk a lot by getting involved with some people others wouldn't, as a result sometimes I burned. Hardly ever though- twice this year already! 
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|  07-01-2005, 03:21 AM | #442 | |
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|  07-01-2005, 03:38 AM | #443 | |
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 You should seriously get some counceling or some help with your issues. | |
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|  07-01-2005, 05:03 AM | #444 | 
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				 | Howard was funny as hell. Sexbrat.com, all he kept saying was Sexbrat.com. KB great interview. Lets do some cross sales for longz with Sexbrat.com | 
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|  07-01-2005, 05:42 AM | #445 | 
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				 | That was long and interesting reading    | 
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|  07-01-2005, 06:18 AM | #446 | |
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  Lots of accusations spread but no back ups and every one the accusations were spread against has disputed them with logical explanations. KB, it honestly looks like you were led by the balls by an addict who lied to you in order to get what she wanted from you at the time. The responses here against what she said all mesh with each other and make sense. You're doing well with your sobriety - just write all this off and start from scratch. Reopening supposed old wounds isn't doing you any good.  | |
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|  07-01-2005, 07:16 AM | #447 | 
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				 | Dave was always so nice anytime I talked with him and KB has always been a good friend. I hope you guys can work things out so all is okay. Mammoth thread.. lol.. took an hour just to read through it.. ;-) | 
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|  07-01-2005, 07:19 AM | #448 | 
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				 | The only bad thing about KK IMO is she's a Duke fan!  | 
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|  07-01-2005, 08:29 AM | #449 | 
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				 | This thread needs a TIMEOUT. Everyone needs to step aside, relax................ And do a line of coke. 
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|  07-01-2005, 08:37 AM | #450 | 
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