Varius

Well I think whether you do it only-water, with juice, tea or lemonade...the effect should be very similar if not the same...

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nickdisagrees

I have a friend who has done something similar to this...

Have fun shitting a bike tire once your insides start cleansing themselves.

azguy

Not exactly. The idea behind the Master Cleanser diet is to heal our body and get rid of the toxins and crap it has accumulated over the years. The diet offers a balanced diet to keep your body (and you) comfortable for the duration of the diet. The special lemonade has everything your body needs for this temporary period.

The maple syrup is a balanced form of positive and negative sugars with many minerals and vitamins. Then, the cayenne pepper is needed as it breaks up mucus, adds many of the B and C vitamins, etc. The lemons are the richest source of minerals and vitamins of any food known to man.

It's also a reducing diet as it dissolves and eliminates all types of fatty tissue - all without harmful side effects.

Another feature of this diet is drinking water with sea salt every morning, as we need to cleanse the colonic tract.

azguy

But yeah, other things may work, I just don't feel like there's a need to reinvent the wheel when it's clear something very specific works wonders

Varius

Guess I should have read your links first then

Doing so now....

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azguy

This is it:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Beautycar..._cleanser.html

I bought the book, but that site has most of it online...

Missy

So basically when you do a cleansing diet such as the one you are doing now, you ARE GOING TO LOSE WEIGHT? What if you don't want to lose weight? It has taken me years to get up to what I feel is my perfect weight, and I do not want to lose any of it. But I have been very interested lately in a cleansing diet strictly for the purpose of ridding my body of years-worth of crap stuck to my intestinal and colonic tract, and hopefully the end result will be more energy. But if I'm going to lose 20 pounds in the process, it may not be worth it.

azguy

You have to remember that the only things you can possibly lose in this diet are mucus, disease, and waste. As the book says, healthy tissue will not be eliminated.

Pleasurepays

if you think you are going to starve yourself and not lose muscle tissue and fat, you need to study anatomy and physiology and learn how the body works.

you have also stated that this "concoction" "gives your body everything it needs" - a simple fact that cannot be disputed is that your body needs protein, fat and carbs to function normally.

Spunky

I don't think I could last more then a day on that diet

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Oh, ok. Well as a cleanser I'm all for it. Here's to you and your bowel movements.

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azguy

Supposedly not for those 10 days it doesn't. And besides, sometimes you need to do the wrong thing for the right reasons.

azguy

You're missing the point. You're not starving your body. Yeah yeah, your brain thinks it need food (read: garbage), but in the end of the day, the body got what it needed from the lemonade mix. No one says you need to follow these strict rules forever, but doing so for 10 days for the greater good makes perfect sense.

Pleasurepays

sorry but you can't starve yourself and not lose fat and muscle. you also can't subsist on a diet of sugar either. thats equally silly. your body needs protein, fat and complex carbs. where do you think your body is going to get the energy to function? all you are feeding it is sugar? that is an energy source that lasts only minutes... what cannot be used gets stored as fat.

of course for 10 days you will probably not hurt yourself, but its not right to characterize it as completely healthy and harmless and keep saying that you wont lose muscle or fat or that it gives your body everything it needs. neither of those things are true.

I have to be honest and say this is all just hippy crap. it involves all the typical favorite buzzwords - "poisons" and "toxins" and so on. What does that mean exactly? no one has addressed this and proved the actual need for this process. in fact, neither does the link you provided. it just makes some general and vague claims.

this for example, is one of many rediculous statements:. "As this is a complete balance of minerals and vitamins, one does not suffer the pangs of hunger."

it sounds good... but a balance of vitamins and minerals have nothing to do with hunger, the hormones that regulate it and how this sensation is surpressed. of course you are going to be hungry. you are not eating anything. i eat very well and take all kinds of vitamin supplements and am not deficient in anything - by his logic, i should never be hungry... yet oddly enough, i am hungry every two to three hours.

just because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.

again, i am not saying you should not do it. i doubt you could cause any harm to your body. but it can't be characterized as a healthy thing to do. at the end of the day, you can drink Fleet Phosphosoda and in a few hours achieve the same thing to the point that you are ready for surgery. that means being 100% clean. Why would you want to do something like this for 10 days to MAYBE achieve the same thing?

Pleasurepays

all i can say is that you need to study anatomy and physiology to understand how the body functions, how the body converts macronutrients to energy and so on. you are way off. so far off that it is pointless to talk about it.

a balanced diet is definately not lemons, molasses, red pepper - unless we are readding something completely different


ingredients:
# 10 oz. fresh sugar cane juice (medium hot or cold) 2 tbsp. fresh lime or lemon juice
# 1/10 tsp cayenne (red pepper) or to taste

seeric

i know a few people that have done this. women. one did not fair too well. you can really fuck yourself up with it if you have any ailing conditions.

the lemonade diet is dangerous.

The Heron

This is stupid, some people should spend some money and see a real doctor with an M.D. not a crackhead with tea leaves.

azguy

Look, to every diet (or "system" if you may) there will always be people like you, as there will always be the supporters.

After extensive research into it, I am fully aware of the cons, but have also seen the pros in real life in many people who've done it and are happy to do it a few times a year.

Some people believe in real doctors and push pills all day long, while others think these people are nuts, and it works the other way around as well.

pornguy

I am not sure that I have ever heard of it. But hey. If it works, let us all know. And good luck.

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azguy

So let's not talk about it any longer. We clearly have different views, and I doubt either of us will change them tonight.

Pleasurepays

people "like me"???

haha.. read his site... he is saying your body can create protein from simply breathing air. HELLO!?!?!?! "essential amino acids"... ever hear of those? you know, those 9 amino acids out of 22 that must be present for protein to be made. they are not floating in space. they come from foods and they all must be present in your stomach at the same time combine with those amino acids your body can produce to make protein. how is something transported from your lungs to your

you don't need to be a doctor to know that is factually wrong and impossible.

Pleasurepays

haha. agreed

azguy

I ran out of lemons. Going to buy some more

Pornwolf

Yunno, there are so many people who aren't shitting regularly that anything that sends them to the toilet one good time or more is worth it's weight in gold. And the truth is, THEY REALLY NEED TO GO!

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1 in 3 people develop a form of cancer, doesn't seem like the status quo is so shit hot either. The cleanse isn't for weight loss and doing it for long periods of time IS NOT considered healthy. 14-21 day of cleansing once a year followed by eating a balanced diet consisting of whole foods for the rest is far healthier than 365 day of Burger King. I've done the cleanse and have nothing positive to say about it. Yes, yes, yes I know the body needs protein and carbs to function properly but not having them for 10 days is NOT going to make you wither away.

I do agree with you that there is a lot of crap about toxins. However, one toxin that you can definitely do with less of is caffeine and this cleanse helps with that.

Digibucks

that's nice to hear mate...goodluck & keep it up

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azguy

Already on DAY 3 with no food. The salt water is still easy to deal with in the mornings and the lemonade is actually tasting good now. I wasn't hungry even once, although I did have a craving for just about anything I ate in the past year. LOL. And yesterday at the movies it wasn't easy having everyone around you munching on popcorn... but doing great so far.

Pleasurepays

an interesting thing about stuff like this (or for example a high protein/low carb diet that kills your appetite) is that you become aware of how eating is very psychological and how often you are eating out of habit or simply because your brain is telling you to eat... even though you feel no physical sense of hunger.

azguy

That's very true.

I'm also full of energy since I started the diet.. this may go away as the fast continues, but at this point, I'm feeling great and still work efficiently and actually have less distractions during the day. Very interesting, I can't wait to see what the next few days will be like

Varius

I agree about how psychological it is. Actually, one fo the worst behaviors in eating, I only really realized by playing poker.

When I began playing online poker, I used to call a lot hoping to hit turns/rivers, since I already had money in the pot. After gaining some experience, my winning % is much higher by folding way more often after the flop or even pre-flop.

In eating, especially in restaurants but even at home, many people will finish their whole plate becausent to waste it". Thus they eat more than they need to, and become very very full instead of just satisfied. I have tried to stop doing this more and more and eat (or order) only until I feel nearly full, not past.

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azguy

I did notice one thing since I started the fast - I can't drive safely... My response time on the road was very bad last night, never experienced anything like that. It felt as if I was high. Good thing the theater is 2 minutes from my home, and I doubt I will be doing any driving in the next week. It was just too weird and dangerous.

Mr Dickovitch

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ics/detox.html

This "cleansing" fad is the biggest bullshit ever.

Pleasurepays

"It can be terrifying to believe that one's body is being poisoned by toxins from within. But if this were true, the human race would not have survived, says Vincent F. Cordaro, M.D., an FDA medical officer. "A person who retained wastes and toxins would be very ill and could die if not treated. The whole concept is irrational and unscientific."

Yo Adrian

So true

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azguy

If you do enough research, you can find bad opinions just about anything, and that includes diets of all types.

azguy

She also says that Americans are healthy. When was the last time she checked obesity rates? That lady is actually the con artist here

DWB

OMG... that was funny. I didn't see that one coming.

Axeman

keep it up azguy! My friend did it and felt great after the 10 days.

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HammerALL

Lost 70 lbs on the same one and the only book worth buying about fitness and dieting is:





but Azguy - good luck - just be careful. Changing your weight first begins with changing your life style.

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azguy

Thanks I myself know some people who did it, and I have yet to hear one bad thing about it, other than a bunch of underground sites claiming it's bullshit

bigillz

the book also says the headaches and other physical problems are from your body releasing toxins and poisons.

if you believe anything the book says after that statement, best of luck in life to you, i've got some pills for you that'll make your penis grow!

bigillz

if you do enough research you'll find out how your body works and realize that your colon is, for all practical purposes, completely outside of your body. what is in it has no effect on you, beyond something to shit out. you have organs, like your big tasty liver that "detoxify" your body, and if anything actually DID "release" the toxins stored in your body, you'd die from them circulating through your system, or your liver would clean them right up again, like it did in the first place. your time would be much better spent in some biology/anatomy/human physiology classes than trying to cleanse your body of what it's already cleansed your body of.

Pleasurepays

"Andrew Weil, M.D., author of Natural Health, Natural Medicine. "Since your colon constantly sheds its lining, there's no chance for toxins to build up on it. Regular bowel movements from eating a proper diet, drinking plenty of fluids and enjoying daily activity will clean you out naturally."

azguy

Even if what you're saying is true - with it isn't - and the colon is completely outside of my body (lol man, the colon is part of the body's digestive system), then how about colon cancer? Is that also a hoax and something that is out of the human body once developed? From all the research I've done, it is clear that colon toxins can cause polyps / small growths on the inner colon lining... and later on Polyps may turn into colon cancer. That's just one reason to detoxify and cleanse your body.

azguy

Brb.. time to mix up another lemonade