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  • Pornwolf
    Drunk and Unruly
    • Jan 2002
    • 22712

    #61
    Originally posted by azguy
    My first post gave the wrong impression regarding the Master Cleanser diet. It is intended to detoxify your body, heal it, and clean it from all the garbage we've been eating for years. While on it, you don't eat, hence the obvious weight loss, which some of it you gain back when you break the diet.



    This is my first day on it.. and I'm feeling good so far. Hopefully this won't get too bad in the following days.
    Oh, ok. Well as a cleanser I'm all for it. Here's to you and your bowel movements.
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    • azguy
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2004
      • 5167

      #62
      Originally posted by Pleasurepays
      you have also stated that this "concoction" "gives your body everything it needs" - a simple fact that cannot be disputed is that your body needs protein, fat and carbs to function normally.


      Supposedly not for those 10 days it doesn't. And besides, sometimes you need to do the wrong thing for the right reasons.

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      • azguy
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2004
        • 5167

        #63
        Originally posted by Pleasurepays
        if you think you are going to starve yourself and not lose muscle tissue and fat, you need to study anatomy and physiology and learn how the body works.
        You're missing the point. You're not starving your body. Yeah yeah, your brain thinks it need food (read: garbage), but in the end of the day, the body got what it needed from the lemonade mix. No one says you need to follow these strict rules forever, but doing so for 10 days for the greater good makes perfect sense.

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        • Pleasurepays
          BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
          • Aug 2002
          • 11913

          #64
          Originally posted by azguy
          Supposedly not for those 10 days it doesn't. And besides, sometimes you need to do the wrong thing for the right reasons.
          sorry but you can't starve yourself and not lose fat and muscle. you also can't subsist on a diet of sugar either. thats equally silly. your body needs protein, fat and complex carbs. where do you think your body is going to get the energy to function? all you are feeding it is sugar? that is an energy source that lasts only minutes... what cannot be used gets stored as fat.

          of course for 10 days you will probably not hurt yourself, but its not right to characterize it as completely healthy and harmless and keep saying that you wont lose muscle or fat or that it gives your body everything it needs. neither of those things are true.

          I have to be honest and say this is all just hippy crap. it involves all the typical favorite buzzwords - "poisons" and "toxins" and so on. What does that mean exactly? no one has addressed this and proved the actual need for this process. in fact, neither does the link you provided. it just makes some general and vague claims.

          this for example, is one of many rediculous statements:. "As this is a complete balance of minerals and vitamins, one does not suffer the pangs of hunger."

          it sounds good... but a balance of vitamins and minerals have nothing to do with hunger, the hormones that regulate it and how this sensation is surpressed. of course you are going to be hungry. you are not eating anything. i eat very well and take all kinds of vitamin supplements and am not deficient in anything - by his logic, i should never be hungry... yet oddly enough, i am hungry every two to three hours.

          just because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.

          again, i am not saying you should not do it. i doubt you could cause any harm to your body. but it can't be characterized as a healthy thing to do. at the end of the day, you can drink Fleet Phosphosoda and in a few hours achieve the same thing to the point that you are ready for surgery. that means being 100% clean. Why would you want to do something like this for 10 days to MAYBE achieve the same thing?

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          • Pleasurepays
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            • Aug 2002
            • 11913

            #65
            Originally posted by azguy
            You're missing the point. You're not starving your body. Yeah yeah, your brain thinks it need food (read: garbage), but in the end of the day, the body got what it needed from the lemonade mix. No one says you need to follow these strict rules forever, but doing so for 10 days for the greater good makes perfect sense.
            all i can say is that you need to study anatomy and physiology to understand how the body functions, how the body converts macronutrients to energy and so on. you are way off. so far off that it is pointless to talk about it.

            a balanced diet is definately not lemons, molasses, red pepper - unless we are readding something completely different


            ingredients:
            # 10 oz. fresh sugar cane juice (medium hot or cold) 2 tbsp. fresh lime or lemon juice
            # 1/10 tsp cayenne (red pepper) or to taste

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            • seeric
              ..........
              • Aug 2004
              • 41917

              #66
              i know a few people that have done this. women. one did not fair too well. you can really fuck yourself up with it if you have any ailing conditions.

              the lemonade diet is dangerous.

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              • The Heron
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2001
                • 4496

                #67
                This is stupid, some people should spend some money and see a real doctor with an M.D. not a crackhead with tea leaves.

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                • azguy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 5167

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                  sorry but you can't starve yourself and not lose fat and muscle. you also can't subsist on a diet of sugar either. thats equally silly. your body needs protein, fat and complex carbs. where do you think your body is going to get the energy to function? all you are feeding it is sugar? that is an energy source that lasts only minutes... what cannot be used gets stored as fat.

                  of course for 10 days you will probably not hurt yourself, but its not right to characterize it as completely healthy and harmless and keep saying that you wont lose muscle or fat or that it gives your body everything it needs. neither of those things are true.

                  I have to be honest and say this is all just hippy crap. it involves all the typical favorite buzzwords - "poisons" and "toxins" and so on. What does that mean exactly? no one has addressed this and proved the actual need for this process. in fact, neither does the link you provided. it just makes some general and vague claims.

                  this for example, is one of many rediculous statements:. "As this is a complete balance of minerals and vitamins, one does not suffer the pangs of hunger."

                  it sounds good... but a balance of vitamins and minerals have nothing to do with hunger, the hormones that regulate it and how this sensation is surpressed. of course you are going to be hungry. you are not eating anything. i eat very well and take all kinds of vitamin supplements and am not deficient in anything - by his logic, i should never be hungry... yet oddly enough, i am hungry every two to three hours.

                  just because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.

                  again, i am not saying you should not do it. i doubt you could cause any harm to your body. but it can't be characterized as a healthy thing to do. at the end of the day, you can drink Fleet Phosphosoda and in a few hours achieve the same thing to the point that you are ready for surgery. that means being 100% clean. Why would you want to do something like this for 10 days to MAYBE achieve the same thing?
                  Look, to every diet (or "system" if you may) there will always be people like you, as there will always be the supporters.

                  After extensive research into it, I am fully aware of the cons, but have also seen the pros in real life in many people who've done it and are happy to do it a few times a year.

                  Some people believe in real doctors and push pills all day long, while others think these people are nuts, and it works the other way around as well.

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                  • pornguy
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 62912

                    #69
                    I am not sure that I have ever heard of it. But hey. If it works, let us all know. And good luck.
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                    • azguy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 5167

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                      all i can say is that you need to study anatomy and physiology to understand how the body functions, how the body converts macronutrients to energy and so on. you are way off. so far off that it is pointless to talk about it.

                      a balanced diet is definately not lemons, molasses, red pepper - unless we are readding something completely different


                      ingredients:
                      # 10 oz. fresh sugar cane juice (medium hot or cold) 2 tbsp. fresh lime or lemon juice
                      # 1/10 tsp cayenne (red pepper) or to taste
                      So let's not talk about it any longer. We clearly have different views, and I doubt either of us will change them tonight.

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                      • Pleasurepays
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by azguy
                        Look, to every diet (or "system" if you may) there will always be people like you, as there will always be the supporters.

                        After extensive research into it, I am fully aware of the cons, but have also seen the pros in real life in many people who've done it and are happy to do it a few times a year.

                        Some people believe in real doctors and push pills all day long, while others think these people are nuts, and it works the other way around as well.
                        people "like me"???

                        haha.. read his site... he is saying your body can create protein from simply breathing air. HELLO!?!?!?! "essential amino acids"... ever hear of those? you know, those 9 amino acids out of 22 that must be present for protein to be made. they are not floating in space. they come from foods and they all must be present in your stomach at the same time combine with those amino acids your body can produce to make protein. how is something transported from your lungs to your

                        you don't need to be a doctor to know that is factually wrong and impossible.

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                        • Pleasurepays
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 11913

                          #72
                          Originally posted by azguy
                          So let's not talk about it any longer. We clearly have different views, and I doubt either of us will change them tonight.
                          haha. agreed

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                          • azguy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 5167

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                            haha. agreed
                            I ran out of lemons. Going to buy some more

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                            • Pornwolf
                              Drunk and Unruly
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 22712

                              #74
                              Yunno, there are so many people who aren't shitting regularly that anything that sends them to the toilet one good time or more is worth it's weight in gold. And the truth is, THEY REALLY NEED TO GO!
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                              • The Sultan Of Smut
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 4325

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                ust because you have read a book... does not mean it is valid and correct information. these people have a book too http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm and they maintain that you can live by "eating sunlight" with no food whatsoever.
                                1 in 3 people develop a form of cancer, doesn't seem like the status quo is so shit hot either. The cleanse isn't for weight loss and doing it for long periods of time IS NOT considered healthy. 14-21 day of cleansing once a year followed by eating a balanced diet consisting of whole foods for the rest is far healthier than 365 day of Burger King. I've done the cleanse and have nothing positive to say about it. Yes, yes, yes I know the body needs protein and carbs to function properly but not having them for 10 days is NOT going to make you wither away.

                                I do agree with you that there is a lot of crap about toxins. However, one toxin that you can definitely do with less of is caffeine and this cleanse helps with that.

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