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Old 06-25-2005, 10:55 AM   #1
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Officially Your Fucked... PIC of ME and a Question too:

I think we had the first and ONLY real reality site. Nothing was scripted if I went out and shit happened it happened... if we had our camera or video camera on us it got filmed.

I started my websites for fun... with all the photos we have taken of me getting naked flashing or fucking and sucking other people in public that we have met over the years (at least 8 yrs). The people thought it was so cool I had my own websites and they wanted to be on my sites with me.

We have never paid anyone to be in them or hired any models. It was for the fun of it. The money we make from our sites is good so they are worth keeping up. But with the new 2257 I might as well take them down as I can never track down all the people to get two forms of ID's. Pretty much over 100,000 photos and videos are worthless unless I move our stuff out of the country.

My question would be... If I call my sites a documentary of my life would it be exempt of the 2257... or could I make it a news site of all the things that happen around our area in the public arena would that be ok? Or would a news site still have to comply... pretty much evething I do is in public. Its fun for me and my members love it.

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Ps... Here is a pic of what I think of the new 2257... heck even the old one too! Enjoy



Sorry I wanted to show my full length nude version
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Old 06-25-2005, 10:57 AM   #2
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ROFL

You've been fucking and sucking people on film for profit this whole time, showing it for profit and not once never ever collected any kind of model release, or 2257 documentation?

The new 2257 doesn't make you non-compliant. The old one does, your inability to run a business does.

Jesus Christ.
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Here's another guy that is fucked and need to comply to the new regs....


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Old 06-25-2005, 11:05 AM   #7
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I thought I was ok because of all the girls gone wild type of sites and CD sales of stuff done in public... and wet t-shirt contest that were shot and they never collected releases and id's. I know this as I am in a lot of their vids and CD's and never signed anything for them.

I guess It will all have move it all offshore.

Thanks for the nice comments of my pic too!

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Old 06-25-2005, 11:38 AM   #11
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I thought I was ok because of all the girls gone wild type of sites and CD sales of stuff done in public... and wet t-shirt contest that were shot and they never collected releases and id's. I know this as I am in a lot of their vids and CD's and never signed anything for them.

I guess It will all have move it all offshore.

Thanks for the nice comments of my pic too!

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Softcore flashing in public is ok, fucking and sucking = not ok.
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Old 06-25-2005, 11:42 AM   #12
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So if I take out the actual public sex I will be ok?
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Old 06-25-2005, 11:54 AM   #13
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So if I take out the actual public sex I will be ok?
'public' as in places or people?

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I still think that there's too much fear mongering going on
I have a feeling as long as no one looks remotely underage on your site, no one will care..
there aren't any bounties being offered, you haven't complied with the previous rules and nothing happened...
but still... I haven't been following too close.. doesn't being a member of the FSC keep you exempt for a while?
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Anytime 5 years in jail is mentioned it rasies concern... all of the people on my site are way over 18 and none look remotely close to 18. I wish the people making the rules would make them for what they are intended and Not to harrass people way over the years of 18 and give them a hard time.

I did join FSC so I guess I will be exempt for awhile so I can take out the actual public sex stuff.

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I'd definately go off shore with it... and could be a nice change for you.... as in you follow it and go fuck and suck some exotic people in exotic places! I am sure your loyal fan base would agree.
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I'd definately go off shore with it... and could be a nice change for you.... as in you follow it and go fuck and suck some exotic people in exotic places! I am sure your loyal fan base would agree.
Good idea...Rebecca on the Run, or Pam on the Lam, would be good names.

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Anytime 5 years in jail is mentioned it rasies concern... all of the people on my site are way over 18 and none look remotely close to 18. I wish the people making the rules would make them for what they are intended and Not to harrass people way over the years of 18 and give them a hard time.

I did join FSC so I guess I will be exempt for awhile so I can take out the actual public sex stuff.

Rebecca
you are not exempt from complying with federal law because you are a member of the FSC you nitwit!

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Old 06-25-2005, 12:45 PM   #20
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Kinda of Like E-TV V_Rocks... I could do a Special of the Top Ten Most Erotic Places to Fuck and Suck in the Sun.

Beach Freaks the Series Cumming Soon.



I think it will be a nice tropical change... otherwise I will have to make sure all the plant leaves cover up just the right places... what kind of unscripted sex would that be. I think it would suck
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Old 06-25-2005, 12:54 PM   #23
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I think we had the first and ONLY real reality site. Nothing was scripted if I went out and shit happened it happened... if we had our camera or video camera on us it got filmed.

I started my websites for fun... with all the photos we have taken of me getting naked flashing or fucking and sucking other people in public that we have met over the years (at least 8 yrs). The people thought it was so cool I had my own websites and they wanted to be on my sites with me.

We have never paid anyone to be in them or hired any models. It was for the fun of it. The money we make from our sites is good so they are worth keeping up. But with the new 2257 I might as well take them down as I can never track down all the people to get two forms of ID's. Pretty much over 100,000 photos and videos are worthless unless I move our stuff out of the country.

My question would be... If I call my sites a documentary of my life would it be exempt of the 2257... or could I make it a news site of all the things that happen around our area in the public arena would that be ok? Or would a news site still have to comply... pretty much evething I do is in public. Its fun for me and my members love it.

Thanks,
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Ps... Here is a pic of what I think of the new 2257... heck even the old one too! Enjoy



Sorry I wanted to show my full length nude version
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Should have known about the old laws way before these newer ones...
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It's only 5 years, why are you so worried?

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Sorry, typo.

You should really ask a lawyer, not gfy. Unlike a lot of people, you have the financial resources (and motivation) to seek professional legal council.
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I still think that there's too much fear mongering going on
I have a feeling as long as no one looks remotely underage on your site, no one will care..
The point of the new 2257 regs is not to protect anyone, but as a way to finally get those they want to get.

So if you're a throat gagging site, water sports site, maybe even a teenie site I think if you're even remotely on their radar they will come and check you out.

Obscenity cases have been filed in recent years, but they have lost them. This now will allow them a back up prosecution if they can't get the obscenity conviction.

It allows them to go through everything with a fine tooth comb and when you miss one thing bam, they have you.

It's no different than the zoning hassles they put adult companies through during the 80's. Just the beuracratic process a lone put a lot of people out of business, and this is having a similar effect. How large? We won't know until it's over.
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ROFL

You've been fucking and sucking people on film for profit this whole time, showing it for profit and not once never ever collected any kind of model release, or 2257 documentation?

The new 2257 doesn't make you non-compliant. The old one does, your inability to run a business does.

Jesus Christ.
What he said.

Oh, and Carol Cox was doing similar to you LONG before you started the "first reality site". Get over yourself.

And without model releases, you are fucked. All it takes is one person you filmed to turn against you and your hobby is over.
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Thanks Kristian... I will have to do that.

Big Red... I will put up just a few more silly pics of my public fun. Enjoy
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Don't worry it was safe sex... I put a condom on the beer tap from the bar.

Most of my stuff is just harmless fun like this... and that's what bruns me up that someone wants to take my fun away I guess I will be drinking less beer now.
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Nude Canada... actually the one time I met Carol I must say she was nice... and just so you know I have been doing it as long... my sites were just free at that time. It was just a hobby then till someone told me to make them a pay site.

Eros... Thanks for your reply it didn't go un-noticed.
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ROFL

You've been fucking and sucking people on film for profit this whole time, showing it for profit and not once never ever collected any kind of model release, or 2257 documentation?

The new 2257 doesn't make you non-compliant. The old one does, your inability to run a business does.

Jesus Christ.

Eros is correct,

You're an idiot... I hope these people come back and sue you for their cut. Get over yourself... and the 2257 is held so blah
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Most of my stuff is just harmless fun like this... and that's what bruns me up that someone wants to take my fun away I guess I will be drinking less beer now.
you dont seem to understand that fucking someone with a beer tap on film and taking pics requires a model release, id's and is subject to the same 2257 requirements which have been in existence for a decade.
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gezzz Pleasure... I am finding that out trust me.
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ROFL

You've been fucking and sucking people on film for profit this whole time, showing it for profit and not once never ever collected any kind of model release, or 2257 documentation?

The new 2257 doesn't make you non-compliant. The old one does, your inability to run a business does.

Jesus Christ.



I think that the simple nature of her success and ideals of finding a loophole rather than to quit or bitch shows her ability to run a business. The ability to run a business shouldn't reflect conformity to laws and opinions of people in the same business.
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I think that the simple nature of her success and ideals of finding a loophole rather than to quit or bitch shows her ability to run a business. The ability to run a business shouldn't reflect conformity to laws and opinions of people in the same business.
wow. this will be a great defense to the DOJ and federal prosecutors.

i did not know you had the option to "conform" or not "conform" to laws.

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You think you were the 1st? LMAO.


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wow. this will be a great defense to the DOJ and federal prosecutors.

i did not know you had the option to "conform" or not "conform" to laws.



You don't have the option to not conform if you're a brainwashed conformist. The bad guys never get away from the cops either, well according to the chases I see on TV.
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You don't have the option to not conform if you're a brainwashed conformist. The bad guys never get away from the cops either, well according to the chases I see on TV.
let me see if I understand your position, which actually does seem to be quite well thought out.

1) not wanting to go to prison makes one a "conformist"

2) because "bad guys sometimes get away" - challenging the government while providing them clear and undeniable proof of the illegality of your actions, constitutes acceptable risk.


how old are you? 12?

does your mommy know you are talking to strange adults on the internet?

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if you're the primary producer, ID's and model releases have always been required for sexually explicit material, this is nothing new.
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Her site could never, ever, ever be compliant.. at least, not without radically changing it...
plus signed contracts are invalidated when the person signing is drunk ...

Still, I can also imagine the conversation... "here, I just shoved a beer tap up your pussy... mind signing this form and giving me a copy of your ID?"
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You can say they have the docs but the U.S. can't check them. ;)
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Old 06-25-2005, 07:09 PM   #49
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Thanks to all of you that were nice to me... and the ones that were not so nice to me.

I was just having fun... I was not trying to run a "business". Looks like if I want to continue having fun I will need to outsource (bad word in my opinion)... my sites outside of the US. If it wasn't the weekend I would have the move done already.

I heard of 2257's never took the time to read them (my fault) as I thought they pertained to CP and keeping kids safer, and not for adults having adult fun. Boy was I wrong... LOL

Anyways thanks again for all comments good and bad it was a hard lesson to learn but all points were well taken. I will be moving stuff SOON!

Here is one last pic for you spunky...
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Old 06-26-2005, 04:27 PM   #50
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Damn.. nice pics, thanks for posting them. Your reality site is awesome because it makes the surfer feel like a true voyeur!
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