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dready · 06-26-2005, 09:29 PM

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

High Plains Drifter · 06-26-2005, 09:33 PM

Is it just me, or have I been seeing "This is the Peak Oil Year!!" articles for like 15 years now?

JJ Gold · 06-26-2005, 09:34 PM

I have been reading it for 20 minutes.
Alot of truth without a radical agenda.
I am glad I own VLO and RDC.

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Big deal. If gas prices get high, I?ll just drive less. Why should I give a damn?"

Because petrochemicals are key components to much more than just the gas in your car. As geologist Dale Allen Pfeiffer points out in his article entitled, "Eating Fossil Fuels," approximately 10 calories of fossil fuels are required to produce every 1 calorie of food eaten in the US."

from http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Index.html

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

Is it just me, or have I been seeing "This is the Peak Oil Year!!" articles for like 15 years now?

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

Is it just me, or have I been seeing "This is the Peak Oil Year!!" articles for like 15 years now?

I think it might just be you... can you mention at least one? And even still, the article is about AFTER peak oil.

Spunky · 06-26-2005, 09:36 PM

Eventually the supply will run out..alternative sources like electricity will take over..

JJ Gold · 06-26-2005, 09:38 PM

It is my opinion that we are at least 50 years away from any "crisis". Technology is changing drilling results.

I am holding VLO, RDC, and MUR for the long term. Prices will stay high due to the fact that demand will only increase.

China is basically going through the industrial revolution.

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Eventually the supply will run out..alternative sources like electricity will take over..

Electricity from...????

nofx · 06-26-2005, 09:41 PM

bump for a great site

High Plains Drifter · 06-26-2005, 09:43 PM

yeah, looks like about 16 years I've been hearing this...

"The Hubbert peak theory, also known as peak oil, is an influential theory concerning the long-term rate of conventional oil and other fossil fuels extraction and depletion. It predicts that future world oil production will soon reach a peak and then rapidly decline. The actual peak year will only be known after it has passed. Based on available production data, proponents have predicted the peak years to be 1989, 1995, 1995-2000, or, according to one influential group, 2007 for oil and somewhat later for natural gas. This may lead to either minor economic or major catastrophic consequences for the world since modern civilization is dependent on cheap and abundant fossil fuels, especially for transportation."

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nofx

bump for a great site

I'd bump this mofo all day.. it's really got me going.

JJ Gold · 06-26-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Eventually the supply will run out..alternative sources like electricity will take over..

What about Styrene, Toluene, Benzene, and Butadiene?

Spunky · 06-26-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dready

Electricity from...????

Batteries..solar power etc

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

yeah, looks like about 16 years I've been hearing this...

"The Hubbert peak theory, also known as peak oil, is an influential theory concerning the long-term rate of conventional oil and other fossil fuels extraction and depletion. It predicts that future world oil production will soon reach a peak and then rapidly decline. The actual peak year will only be known after it has passed. Based on available production data, proponents have predicted the peak years to be 1989, 1995, 1995-2000, or, according to one influential group, 2007 for oil and somewhat later for natural gas. This may lead to either minor economic or major catastrophic consequences for the world since modern civilization is dependent on cheap and abundant fossil fuels, especially for transportation."

Again I say... the site is called: Life AFTER the oil shock. We all know it's inevitable... 1989 or 2012, whatever, it's a small time span and have you considered the consequences?

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Batteries..solar power etc

Batteries charged by? Solar power made from?

Spunky · 06-26-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Gold

What about Styrene, Toluene, Benzene, and Butadiene?

I didn't do my research on those products..shit if they can pour used fryer oil in a diesel tank and make the car run people will look at any alternative

Spunky · 06-26-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dready

Batteries charged by? Solar power made from?

I'm referring to electric cars.Solar power blankets on homes

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

I didn't do my research on those products..shit if they can pour used fryer oil in a diesel tank and make the car run people will look at any alternative

Okay so fryer oil will power 0.01% of cars... what about the 60% of products made from oil that don't involve transportation? Shit, I drive a bio diesel car everyday! That could never be the answer for the whole population.. you want to cover the entire North America with soy beans or something?

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

I'm referring to electric cars.Solar power blankets on homes

So how do the cars get charged? Where does EVERYBODY get the $15K on avg to buy solar panels?

JJ Gold · 06-26-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

I didn't do my research on those products..shit if they can pour used fryer oil in a diesel tank and make the car run people will look at any alternative

Look around your room right now and name three things that do not contain byproducts of petroleum.

dready · 06-26-2005, 09:55 PM

Nothing contains the energy potential of Oil.

GatorB · 06-26-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Eventually the supply will run out..alternative sources like electricity will take over..

Are you retarded?

jawanda · 06-26-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

I'm referring to electric cars.Solar power blankets on homes

Good ideas, of course, but unfortunately we still don't know how to make solar panels without using oil.

That could kick us in the ass, yeah?

tony286 · 06-26-2005, 10:23 PM

we have to get off the black heroin but the oil lobbys are so strong. Its fucking crazy

dready · 06-26-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

we have to get off the black heroin but the oil lobbys are so strong. Its fucking crazy

At this point I don't think it even has anything to do with the oil lobbys... it's just plain we are using it like fucking nuts and aren't going to stop till it's gone, and we have no alternative close to replacing it.

JJ Gold · 06-26-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Gold

Look around your room right now and name three things that do not contain byproducts of petroleum.

Almost everything we use involves petroleum. Gasoline is just part of the equation.

basschick · 06-26-2005, 10:56 PM

my ex-husband was using bio-deisel, and there is some regular deisel in it, i believe.

on the other hand, solar power is more viable than people think. the people who talk about it are called "cranks" by the administration, but consider who the administration is for a minute.

clinton looked into solar power a lot, and other alternative sources of power. the whole foods i shop at uses a lot of solar power, and you can't tell the difference.

pornguy · 06-26-2005, 11:03 PM

We will run out someday, but people like BUSH will be there to fuck us on the next type.

bhutocracy · 06-26-2005, 11:29 PM

we will move to nuclear plants and natural gas short term.. we will need nuclear to handle the inefficiencies in hydrogen fuel cell and other related battery technology in the panic switch.. Australia has 30% of the worlds Uranium, a shit load of natural gas and a bunch of oil under the barrier reef and the timor sea.. I expect us to be liberated at some point.
In the longer term we will develop renewable resources but we will only do it when absolutely forced so there will be considerable amounts of shit.. no politician is going to put the budget in deficit several billion dollars for tidal, wind, solar and geothermal power when the only thing they've got to worry about is the next 4 years and getting re-elected. Only when it's obvious to everyone and effects votes will things change and by then it will be too late for a nice easy transition.

cambaby · 06-27-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dready

At this point I don't think it even has anything to do with the oil lobbys... it's just plain we are using it like fucking nuts and aren't going to stop till it's gone, and we have no alternative close to replacing it.

Dead bodies.

reynold · 06-27-2005, 02:54 AM

Well, wishing you a life time membership on it...lol

Tat2Jr · 06-27-2005, 03:05 AM

In the last couple months we've just started seeing car commericals touting their gas mileage. I haven't seen that in at least a decade... maybe two.... seems like forever.

pr0 · 06-27-2005, 03:29 AM

dooms day theories have existed since day 1 of written history

we're very adaptable.....i have no worries

& if i have to pay $40 to fill up my civic 2 years from now, i won't cry

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