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simple simon · 06-25-2005, 09:23 PM

So I set out 3 weeks ago to pick another sponsor for some engine traffic. I figured wtf, I give BB a shot. Well after placing 8th on google for a popular bangbros keyword (4,200,000) I am left with this fucking garbage. Hope they enjoyed the joins. Sorry I dont play TGP games and send 5k-10k. I send 500-1000 max from front page google placement, if it's shit I move on. I was hoping for a long term mutually beneficial result.

brand0n · 06-25-2005, 09:24 PM

SomeCreep · 06-25-2005, 09:26 PM

How many hours of work did you invest into this project (building pages, swapping links, etc)?

bringer · 06-25-2005, 09:26 PM

526 hits in 9 days? no joins? omg!!!!!!!!!!!

simple simon · 06-25-2005, 09:28 PM

I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement. 1:500 and climbing aint gonna cut it. Time move forward, you fucks can keep sending that shithole click monkey tgp traffic and be happy with your 1:300+, not me.

dig420 · 06-25-2005, 09:30 PM

that's not enough traffic for a legitimate test. Weak drama.

and if you're converting 1/20 with ND why would you EVER EVER EVER send one single hit anywhere else? Do you work for ND or something?

pocketkangaroo · 06-25-2005, 09:30 PM

Well if you are ranking for the BangBros term, why not just leave it up? The placement isn't costing you anything right now. Unless this is a general adult term that you could place a different sponsor in.

simple simon · 06-25-2005, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

that's not enough traffic for a legitimate test. Weak drama.

and if you're converting 1/20 with ND why would you EVER EVER EVER send one single hit anywhere else? Do you work for ND or something?

Like I said, I send nothing but quality traffic from page placements. Its plenty traffic to gauge were this is going.

Slick · 06-25-2005, 09:34 PM

I'm having a nice month with Bang Bros getting a 1:481 ratio (95 signups) from thumb tgp traffic

Hardlinks · 06-25-2005, 09:37 PM

8th spot is wayyyy less likely to convert then the top 2-3

500 hits isnt enough to see. Hell 1 sale puts you at 1/250 Which you wont do cause your 8th..heh

With what it took to whine here you could have spent some time increasing that rank to top 3, first two if you wanna make any money.

And it could be worse.

I have a tos.php with my ref code listed for a paysite search.(2nd result)

Try to convert that.

EDIT This impying it was for a bangbros site name search

chadglni · 06-25-2005, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement. 1:500 and climbing aint gonna cut it. Time move forward, you fucks can keep sending that shithole click monkey tgp traffic and be happy with your 1:300+, not me.

Haha I love this guy. click monkey tgp traffic

I agree

HushMoney · 06-25-2005, 09:43 PM

from my other thread:

give us a try

simple simon · 06-25-2005, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Haha I love this guy. click monkey tgp traffic

I agree

They have done nothing but train their traffic to click, click, click and it never ends. Find a way to make a ppc tgp model and they would be zillionaires. I been doing this shit for 4 years now and it amazes me that alot of guys need 800k uniques a day to make a buck.

MrChips · 06-25-2005, 09:50 PM

Simple Simon

Dead right - that is more than enough traffic for a test.

Two issues -
1 if they shaved you
2 if they didnt shave and simply didnt convert

Either way - send the traffic elsewhere.

I only do SEO aswell - and I know thats exactly what I'd do - delete the shit affiliate program from your sites - no more questions - no ifs or buts - DELETE.

**just incase** its shaving - then you know they aint getting f*** all from your work.

Snake Doctor · 06-25-2005, 09:51 PM

A popular bangbros keyword?

What does that mean?

If you went and got a good ranking for say "milf lessons" or "bang bus" I don't think that's going to convert as well as a good listing for "big tits" or "mature sex".....simply because most of the people who search for a site name on google are looking for more galleries with content from that site.

Theo · 06-25-2005, 09:51 PM

can we see the 1:20 stats from ND as well?

chadglni · 06-25-2005, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

They have done nothing but train their traffic to click, click, click and it never ends. Find a way to make a ppc tgp model and they would be zillionaires. I been doing this shit for 4 years now and it amazes me that alot of guys need 800k uniques a day to make a buck.

I paid $6000 for a TGP in 2001. After 1 month and 1 million gallery hits I shut it down and let the domain expire because I though conversions sucked. I was doing 1:200 or so.

Hardlinks · 06-25-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement.

1:20-30?

What for one day on the second friday of last month?

Please you want to criticize, post the ND stats where you convert 1-20-30 off of google front page clicks. I call bullshit. I know what front page clicks are worth from there and theres VERY few terms that will give you that. And i dont think its you that has them.

edgeprod · 06-25-2005, 09:55 PM

I sent a crapload of joins to them, according to Epoch, but "their" stats said like 1 trial or some bullshit. They're scammers, who cares? Send it somewhere else.

simple simon · 06-25-2005, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

can we see the 1:20 stats from ND as well?

No im not here to gloat or be flashy, just really unimpressed with the results. I do this testing with a few sponsors every few months and was kinda shocked with the outcome. It's unfortunate, but oh well

WiredGuy · 06-25-2005, 09:56 PM

if you are ranked 8th on the name of a bangbros site, like Bang Bus, you won't get many joins. Quite simply, the first 7 listings are probably all sending traffic to the same site and by the time you get any traffic to the 8th position, your chances of making a sale to the same site are really slim.

WG

simple simon · 06-25-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

if you are ranked 8th on the name of a bangbros site, like Bang Bus, you won't get many joins. Quite simply, the first 7 listings are probably all sending traffic to the same site and by the time you get any traffic to the 8th position, your chances of making a sale to the same site are really slim.

WG

my experience with google in the last 4 years is an overwhelming majority of top listings are fucking spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy From what I believe, which others may disagree is that traffic will look were they are going before clicking. When you see a full page of fucked spam domains and run across a root, I feel they are more inclined to click. Everyone has their own theories, like I said, Oh well. Im off to bed, I think im going fishing in the morning to relax

WiredGuy · 06-25-2005, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

my experience with google in the last 4 years is an overwhelming majority of top listings are fucking spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy From what I believe, which others may disagree is that traffic will look were they are going before clicking. When you see a full page of fucked spam domains and run across a root, I feel they are more inclined to click. Everyone has their own theories, like I said, Oh well. Im off to bed, I think im going fishing in the morning to relax

I tend to believe that's how a webmaster would look at results, not the typical surfer. A typical surfer sees their keywords they typed in the search results and clicks, even if its incoherent keyword stuffed listings. That's my opinion at least...

WG

SmokeyTheBear · 06-25-2005, 10:09 PM

se traffic is alot more finicky than some people think. The other 7 listings above you make ALOT of difference. If the 7 spots above you are gallery's or linklist's your chances are way better than if the actual bangbus site is listed above you.. If the actual site is listed above you then all your getting is surfers looking for more free content or free movies . Without actually seeing the listing its hard to say, but its not the worst i have ever seen.

SmokeyTheBear · 06-25-2005, 10:10 PM

btw if your keyword has to do with "bus" then you could try NASTYBUS from spacash..

WiredGuy · 06-25-2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

btw if your keyword has to do with "bus" then you could try NASTYBUS from spacash..

Or Slutbus from Quickbuck. No point in promoting the same site the first 7 listings are pushing. Mix it up a little...

WG

bdld · 06-25-2005, 10:53 PM

my BBros SE traffic does only "OK", but theres so many surfers looking for their sites its hard to let them go.

beemk · 06-26-2005, 12:09 AM

3 weeks to get 500 hits?

twist · 06-26-2005, 12:24 AM

Bangbros does convert, don't blame them but instead look what you're doing wrong.

Fucksakes · 06-26-2005, 12:29 AM

my avg ratio with ND is 1:100 with galleries, have yet to find better

GoLiaT · 06-26-2005, 01:01 AM

i am at 1/200 on pure tgp traffic this month with bangbros
these guys rock

beemk · 06-26-2005, 01:25 AM

6/16/2005 to 6/30/2005 445 2 0 2 1 in 222 $85.00

hosted galleries

chadglni · 06-26-2005, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk

6/16/2005 to 6/30/2005 445 2 0 2 1 in 222 $85.00

hosted galleries

How many hits to the gallery did it take to get 445 clicks? That is the point. One of my sites that was just put up does a whopping 2000 to 2500 page views per day (under 1k visitors) and 400 to 500 clicks to sponsor. Then it converts at around 1:150 raw.

VeriSexy · 06-26-2005, 02:08 AM

Man that sucks........

Manowar · 06-26-2005, 02:24 AM

BangBrosOnline are good for me

Trax · 06-26-2005, 02:51 AM

There is NO WAY you're converting 1/20 with ND, regardless what kind of SE traffic it is.
I send them a good chunk of targetted SE traffic and am NOWHERE near those conversions.
I smell bullshit

xxxjay · 06-26-2005, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

So I set out 3 weeks ago to pick another sponsor for some engine traffic. I figured wtf, I give BB a shot. Well after placing 8th on google for a popular bangbros keyword (4,200,000) I am left with this fucking garbage. Hope they enjoyed the joins. Sorry I dont play TGP games and send 5k-10k. I send 500-1000 max from front page google placement, if it's shit I move on. I was hoping for a long term mutually beneficial result.

Dude, you should not post a thread like this without a bigger traffic sample. You need at least 10k of traffic to a sponsor to see a trend. 500 hits is very premature.

xxxjay · 06-26-2005, 03:04 AM

Bangbros is a top notch program in my book.

Dax · 06-26-2005, 03:57 AM

I say you are full of shit!

BastarD · 06-26-2005, 04:09 AM

My SEO results with nastydollars are a lot better.

yes, first page clicks

pradaboy · 06-26-2005, 06:12 AM

I smell bullshit... SE traffic on the worst sponsor would even convert under 1:600

fris · 06-26-2005, 06:16 AM

i convert 1:73 with blog traffic with bang bros.

SomeCreep · 06-26-2005, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

I smell bullshit... SE traffic on the worst sponsor would even convert under 1:600

Nope. I have a "good" sponsor converting 1:3500 on SE. Another sponsor, same niche, same traffic, converting 1:250.

adonthenet · 06-26-2005, 06:22 AM

SE traffic must convert way better then 1:500 ...

AdultNex · 06-26-2005, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

my experience with google in the last 4 years is an overwhelming majority of top listings are fucking spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy From what I believe, which others may disagree is that traffic will look were they are going before clicking. When you see a full page of fucked spam domains and run across a root, I feel they are more inclined to click. Everyone has their own theories, like I said, Oh well. Im off to bed, I think im going fishing in the morning to relax

Most surfers don't know the difference between a spammed listing and a full fledged white hat operation.

ChrisExtreme · 06-26-2005, 06:55 AM

Basic_man · 06-26-2005, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

BangBrosOnline are good for me

Pretty nice stats Manowar

Pipecrew · 06-26-2005, 08:17 AM

We have soo many SEO guys that hit the whale bonus each period, so I will just assume you dont know what you're doing as others have suggested. 500 hits in almost 2 weeks? is not even possible to judge.

Dalai lama · 06-26-2005, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

that's not enough traffic for a legitimate test. Weak drama.

and if you're converting 1/20 with ND why would you EVER EVER EVER send one single hit anywhere else? Do you work for ND or something?

Because you start a new project while the ND project is still running. Maybe you can find another sponsor who does that good. Then you got double cash, just play around to see if you can find more.

Pipecrew · 06-26-2005, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I sent a crapload of joins to them, according to Epoch, but "their" stats said like 1 trial or some bullshit. They're scammers, who cares? Send it somewhere else.

Wow, you're bright..

We got new stats and new epoch accounts to keep everything seperate. All the old Epoch stats and money on the old stats were paid off long ago (PPS), rebills are still being paid off each period.. Hence why you think your stuff is stuck at "1 trial or some bullshit"

Keep talking shit about stuff you dont know about and you will end up with papers at your door before you wake up.

06-25-2005, 09:23 PM	#1
simple simon Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 854	BangBrothers SEO results So I set out 3 weeks ago to pick another sponsor for some engine traffic. I figured wtf, I give BB a shot. Well after placing 8th on google for a popular bangbros keyword (4,200,000) I am left with this fucking garbage. Hope they enjoyed the joins. Sorry I dont play TGP games and send 5k-10k. I send 500-1000 max from front page google placement, if it's shit I move on. I was hoping for a long term mutually beneficial result. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

06-25-2005, 09:24 PM	#2
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06-25-2005, 09:26 PM	#3
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	How many hours of work did you invest into this project (building pages, swapping links, etc)? __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

06-25-2005, 09:26 PM	#4
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	526 hits in 9 days? no joins? omg!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 333-765-551

06-25-2005, 09:28 PM	#5
simple simon Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 854	I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement. 1:500 and climbing aint gonna cut it. Time move forward, you fucks can keep sending that shithole click monkey tgp traffic and be happy with your 1:300+, not me. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

06-25-2005, 09:30 PM	#6
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	that's not enough traffic for a legitimate test. Weak drama. and if you're converting 1/20 with ND why would you EVER EVER EVER send one single hit anywhere else? Do you work for ND or something?

06-25-2005, 09:30 PM	#7
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Well if you are ranking for the BangBros term, why not just leave it up? The placement isn't costing you anything right now. Unless this is a general adult term that you could place a different sponsor in.

06-25-2005, 09:34 PM	#9
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	I'm having a nice month with Bang Bros getting a 1:481 ratio (95 signups) from thumb tgp traffic

06-25-2005, 09:37 PM	#10
Hardlinks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 1,333	8th spot is wayyyy less likely to convert then the top 2-3 500 hits isnt enough to see. Hell 1 sale puts you at 1/250 Which you wont do cause your 8th..heh With what it took to whine here you could have spent some time increasing that rank to top 3, first two if you wanna make any money. And it could be worse. I have a tos.php with my ref code listed for a paysite search.(2nd result) Try to convert that. EDIT This impying it was for a bangbros site name search __________________ Find out how I make Fabulous Cash !!

06-25-2005, 09:43 PM	#12
HushMoney Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hermosa Beach & Miami, FL. Posts: 2,256	from my other thread: give us a try __________________ Hushmoney.com Interracialpass Hushpass

06-25-2005, 09:50 PM	#14
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Simple Simon Dead right - that is more than enough traffic for a test. Two issues - 1 if they shaved you 2 if they didnt shave and simply didnt convert Either way - send the traffic elsewhere. I only do SEO aswell - and I know thats exactly what I'd do - delete the shit affiliate program from your sites - no more questions - no ifs or buts - DELETE. just incase its shaving - then you know they aint getting f*** all from your work.

06-25-2005, 09:51 PM	#15
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	A popular bangbros keyword? What does that mean? If you went and got a good ranking for say "milf lessons" or "bang bus" I don't think that's going to convert as well as a good listing for "big tits" or "mature sex".....simply because most of the people who search for a site name on google are looking for more galleries with content from that site. __________________ sig too big

06-25-2005, 09:51 PM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	can we see the 1:20 stats from ND as well?

06-25-2005, 09:55 PM	#19
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	I sent a crapload of joins to them, according to Epoch, but "their" stats said like 1 trial or some bullshit. They're scammers, who cares? Send it somewhere else.

06-25-2005, 09:56 PM	#21
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,483	if you are ranked 8th on the name of a bangbros site, like Bang Bus, you won't get many joins. Quite simply, the first 7 listings are probably all sending traffic to the same site and by the time you get any traffic to the 8th position, your chances of making a sale to the same site are really slim. WG __________________ I play with Google.

06-25-2005, 10:09 PM	#24
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	se traffic is alot more finicky than some people think. The other 7 listings above you make ALOT of difference. If the 7 spots above you are gallery's or linklist's your chances are way better than if the actual bangbus site is listed above you.. If the actual site is listed above you then all your getting is surfers looking for more free content or free movies . Without actually seeing the listing its hard to say, but its not the worst i have ever seen. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

06-25-2005, 10:10 PM	#25
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	btw if your keyword has to do with "bus" then you could try NASTYBUS from spacash.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

06-25-2005, 10:53 PM	#27
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	my BBros SE traffic does only "OK", but theres so many surfers looking for their sites its hard to let them go.

06-26-2005, 12:09 AM	#28
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	3 weeks to get 500 hits? __________________ I host with Vacares

06-26-2005, 12:24 AM	#29
twist Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 415	Bangbros does convert, don't blame them but instead look what you're doing wrong. __________________ I love big boobs.

06-26-2005, 12:29 AM	#30
Fucksakes Shit... Fuck! What the Hell? Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,567	my avg ratio with ND is 1:100 with galleries, have yet to find better

06-26-2005, 01:01 AM	#31
GoLiaT Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,130	i am at 1/200 on pure tgp traffic this month with bangbros these guys rock __________________ "where ever you go..there you are."

06-26-2005, 01:25 AM	#32
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	6/16/2005 to 6/30/2005 445 2 0 2 1 in 222 $85.00 hosted galleries __________________ I host with Vacares

06-26-2005, 02:08 AM	#34
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06-26-2005, 02:24 AM	#35
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06-26-2005, 02:51 AM	#36
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	There is NO WAY you're converting 1/20 with ND, regardless what kind of SE traffic it is. I send them a good chunk of targetted SE traffic and am NOWHERE near those conversions. I smell bullshit

06-26-2005, 03:04 AM	#38
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Bangbros is a top notch program in my book. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

06-26-2005, 03:57 AM	#39
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	I say you are full of shit!

06-26-2005, 04:09 AM	#40
BastarD Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Very close to that Jack Daniels bottle.. Posts: 6,341	My SEO results with nastydollars are a lot better. yes, first page clicks

06-26-2005, 06:12 AM	#41
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	I smell bullshit... SE traffic on the worst sponsor would even convert under 1:600 __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

06-26-2005, 06:16 AM	#42
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	i convert 1:73 with blog traffic with bang bros. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

06-26-2005, 06:22 AM	#44
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	SE traffic must convert way better then 1:500 ...

06-26-2005, 08:17 AM	#48
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	We have soo many SEO guys that hit the whale bonus each period, so I will just assume you dont know what you're doing as others have suggested. 500 hits in almost 2 weeks? is not even possible to judge.