European webmasters, what do you do about the 2257 law??

[LasseKongos]

Do you do anything? We have laws that we cant publish info about people and now US got a law that we need to publish the shit??

Do you even care?




pimpimp

[flashfreak]

the only shitty thing is we have to choose european hosts (they're expensive).
othe than this we don't care too much ;)

[ukxtra]

The DOJ aint getting shit from me, they've got zero jurisdiction in the UK or Europe so fuck em and the horse they rode in on

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by LasseKongos

Do you even care?

not at all

[Rui]

As a affiliate I'm only changing stuff (mostly dumping them lol) regarding sponsors that force global new rules due to 2257 (stupid to say the least)

Its all good

[Dirty Dane]

My friend is laywer, gave me these inputs:

- There's no place in 2257 it says you need to post model infos in public.
- The US webmasters need to keep private records for potential inspections, which obviously those outside US don't need. 99% of the effort is about those private records.
- EU has laws about data protection, which mean it is legal to keep records as long the models are informed and accept it.
- To do inspections of sexually explicit content, the US webmasters are forced to publish their name/company name and street adress. However non-US webmasters can not be forced to do this, which is violation of european privacy laws (and freedom).
- If you are hosted on US servers, you need, and that is the best you can do, to publish where inspections of content can be done (that is your sponsors/primary producers).
- If you are hosted outside US, you are technically not on US market as long your actions are "passive", and it is a question of who activated the datapackets; if a US surfer visit your site, then it is the surfer who is responsible for his own actions - not you. If you send data, like an email, then you is responsible.
- There is no such thing as extradiction (he was laughing at me there), as long you don't break your local laws and the "crime" is not of more serious matter. If you want to travel to US and worry about it, you can check with US embassady and/or your local enforcement if you are "clear".
- Always follow your sponsors TOS. If it is too hard/non profitable, then move on to others. If you are in doubt about something; then ask them - don't assume.

[breaker]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

My friend is laywer, gave me these inputs:

- There's no place in 2257 it says you need to post model infos in public.
- The US webmasters need to keep private records for potential inspections, which obviously those outside US don't need. 99% of the effort is about those private records.
- EU has laws about data protection, which mean it is legal to keep records as long the models are informed and accept it.
- To do inspections of sexually explicit content, the US webmasters are forced to publish their name/company name and street adress. However non-US webmasters can not be forced to do this, which is violation of european privacy laws (and freedom).
- If you are hosted on US servers, you need, and that is the best you can do, to publish where inspections of content can be done (that is your sponsors/primary producers).
- If you are hosted outside US, you are technically not on US market as long your actions are "passive", and it is a question of who activated the datapackets; if a US surfer visit your site, then it is the surfer who is responsible for his own actions - not you. If you send data, like an email, then you is responsible.
- There is no such thing as extradiction (he was laughing at me there), as long you don't break your local laws and the "crime" is not of more serious matter. If you want to travel to US and worry about it, you can check with US embassady and/or your local enforcement if you are "clear".
- Always follow your sponsors TOS. If it is too hard/non profitable, then move on to others. If you are in doubt about something; then ask them - don't assume.

Very good and informative!

[just a punk]

Actually we just waiting till all the US adult biz will be busted - j/k of course If you wanna hear a serious answer, so please read this article: http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=9238&cat=2

[Drake]

I think Euro webmasters are able to sleep easy

[Trax]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

My friend is laywer, gave me these inputs:

- There's no place in 2257 it says you need to post model infos in public.
- The US webmasters need to keep private records for potential inspections, which obviously those outside US don't need. 99% of the effort is about those private records.
- EU has laws about data protection, which mean it is legal to keep records as long the models are informed and accept it.
- To do inspections of sexually explicit content, the US webmasters are forced to publish their name/company name and street adress. However non-US webmasters can not be forced to do this, which is violation of european privacy laws (and freedom).
- If you are hosted on US servers, you need, and that is the best you can do, to publish where inspections of content can be done (that is your sponsors/primary producers).
- If you are hosted outside US, you are technically not on US market as long your actions are "passive", and it is a question of who activated the datapackets; if a US surfer visit your site, then it is the surfer who is responsible for his own actions - not you. If you send data, like an email, then you is responsible.
- There is no such thing as extradiction (he was laughing at me there), as long you don't break your local laws and the "crime" is not of more serious matter. If you want to travel to US and worry about it, you can check with US embassady and/or your local enforcement if you are "clear".
- Always follow your sponsors TOS. If it is too hard/non profitable, then move on to others. If you are in doubt about something; then ask them - don't assume.

yep...
to summarize: US laws != European laws => US laws can suck europes dick

[blofer80]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

My friend is laywer, gave me these inputs:

- There's no place in 2257 it says you need to post model infos in public.
- The US webmasters need to keep private records for potential inspections, which obviously those outside US don't need. 99% of the effort is about those private records.
- EU has laws about data protection, which mean it is legal to keep records as long the models are informed and accept it.
- To do inspections of sexually explicit content, the US webmasters are forced to publish their name/company name and street adress. However non-US webmasters can not be forced to do this, which is violation of european privacy laws (and freedom).
- If you are hosted on US servers, you need, and that is the best you can do, to publish where inspections of content can be done (that is your sponsors/primary producers).
- If you are hosted outside US, you are technically not on US market as long your actions are "passive", and it is a question of who activated the datapackets; if a US surfer visit your site, then it is the surfer who is responsible for his own actions - not you. If you send data, like an email, then you is responsible.
- There is no such thing as extradiction (he was laughing at me there), as long you don't break your local laws and the "crime" is not of more serious matter. If you want to travel to US and worry about it, you can check with US embassady and/or your local enforcement if you are "clear".
- Always follow your sponsors TOS. If it is too hard/non profitable, then move on to others. If you are in doubt about something; then ask them - don't assume.

Great post

[LasseKongos]

Originally Posted by Trax

yep...
to summarize: US laws != European laws => US laws can suck europes dick

pimpimp

[Machete_]

I dont care about it.. not at all. And I think 2257 will be taken back by the goverment and closed down.. its a impossible system, but a good thought

[Machete_]

I will redirect all my 2257 links to *******s website

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

- There is no such thing as extradiction (he was laughing at me there), as long you don't break your local laws and the "crime" is not of more serious matter. If you want to travel to US and worry about it, you can check with US embassady and/or your local enforcement if you are "clear".

All of that is pretty much what I have been told as well. Good stuff. Everyone seems to give the US more power on this issue than they really have.